topaz325 Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 Possible but highly unlikley that Birmingham will comeback from 21pt deficit..., well done Poole but when are the promotion going to sort that track out at Wimborne road (Rough)!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 This fixture is far from certain and anyone who says it is, is completely wrong to do so. I dare say nobody officially will say it but everyone knows its a foregone conclusion after last nights showing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 This is not over by a long shot. Hancock and 2nd leg Elite League final leads don't work out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJCullip14 Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 This is not over by a long shot. Hancock and 2nd leg Elite League final leads don't work out! Agree if Grajczonek gets injured in Heat 2 the final is back on anything can happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBee Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 I think last night is why I despise the play-off's. One bad luck night can decide the League Title, rather than the previous several months of hard work. A league title should not be decided on one bad night. Last night was hardly bad luck. Birmingham just got trounced by a much better side on the night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YerRopes Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 (edited) I don't mind the Play Off's although the League Winners should be the Champions and the Play Off winners, should be, well, the Play Off winners. Poole have been the best team in the Play Off's by a country mile, however an unbalanced EL fixture list devalues any Play Off qualification and subsequent title win. Should Poole win the Play Off's, such a victory will ultimately be the most hollow and meaningless in the sport's history due to their dubious shenanigans over the greater part of the season Edited October 8, 2013 by yerropes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 (edited) This is not over by a long shot. Hancock and 2nd leg Elite League final leads don't work out! Reading didnt have much of a lead did they Edited October 8, 2013 by foreverblue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 Reading didnt have much of a lead did they A 10 point lead with 3 heats to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 A 10 point lead with 3 heats to go. So you dont mind tac rides then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 not really true depends what dross you have backing it up. Poole had Ward Holder and Magic at the start and couldnt win anything because the rest were poor. Now you have got decent back up you win matches. Its how the team is built not just the two big hitters at the top Youve been saying how crap poole are apart from Ward and Hancock for weeks now yet they make the final and romp away with the first leg and you say they have good back up? You talk complete nonsense and your anti poole rants are comical you get so worked up Just face it poole had a bad start but made changes and have come good when it matters and the other teams have flopped. Poole have been the form team for weeks now and despite the fact they finished fourth they have always looked the favorites to me and to most others including the bookies 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 This is not over by a long shot. Hancock and 2nd leg Elite League final leads don't work out! What price are you quoting Poole then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 Personally I think it's a 50/50 match. Anything can happen in the play-off's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sotonian Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 Personally I think it's a 50/50 match. Poole to score at least 50 in each leg? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remembertheracers Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 (edited) Barring a major shock, and I wish the Brummies well, the title is Poole's. So a damp squib end to Sky's weekly coverage of the Elite League. Like most paying customers I loathe the principle of double points. You might get away with explaining to a non speedway person that a rider can get 6 points for winning a race. But one who scores 4 for second place when the winner gets 3 defies all logic. I also feel that no two teams should both use rider replacement in any match. I dont care if one team is missing a number 2 while its opponents are missing a number 3 - it means too many delays. Equally when an unsatisfactory start is called with all four back the pit gate should remain locked. Meetings should start on time and no excuses for 2.5 to 3 hours to run 15 races is acceptable except for serious injuries. Speedway, with or without Sky needs to think of paying fans and their kids who have work/school the next morning. I cant congratulate Poole, too many factors in that Belle Vue v Pirates televised match stunk to high heaven. Edited October 8, 2013 by remembertheracers 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phlipphlopp Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 A league title should not be decided on one bad night. Perhaps i should break the astonishing news that the title is decided decided over two legs . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kester Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 WARNING there is history of a famous comeback by the underdog in a two legged match between Birmingham and Poole In July & August 1955 Poole (then in div2) & Brum (div1) met in the National Trophy and it took 4 meetings and 72 heats to decide the tie, the first leg at Perry Bar ended Bummies 56 Pirates 52 the second leg was won by Poole with the same score and tie had to be replayed, this happened on 17th & 18th August Birmingham won the 1st match by 26 points 67 – 41 the next night at Wimborne Rd Poole against all the odds won 69 – 39 this now part of Poole folk law. I am not saying that history will repeat its self this time in favour of Birmingham., BUT IT COULD DO It doesn't involve Poole but in 2007 Birmingham were trounced away at Rye House (I can't remember which competition it was in, or be bothered to look). In the return leg Rye, who were operating r/r, lost Woffinden and Tommy Allen in the first couple of heats and had to complete the rest of the meeting with 4 riders and lost the meeting and the tie heavily. Obviously, the odds are monumentally heavily against it but it's not impossible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloves Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 I would prefer a system where there is a trophy for finishing top of the league e.g. The minor championship and then an overall one for winning the play offs much like Australian rugby league. The problem is if you are top of the league you are unlikely to make changes during the season bar injury as you are doing well. However if you are doing badly through injury or initial pick then you change to strengthen. Whilst weak at the beginning of the season it is clear that Peterborough and Poole were the strongest as it approached the play-offs. Can't blame them for changing their teams as the purpose is to win the league but it just feels a little unfair on teams like the Brummies who stay with the starting 7. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 Agree if Grajczonek gets injured in Heat 2 the final is back on anything can happen dont wish injuries on people. i know what you are trying to say but would rather it be won on the track Youve been saying how crap poole are apart from Ward and Hancock for weeks now yet they make the final and romp away with the first leg and you say they have good back up? You talk complete nonsense and your anti poole rants are comical you get so worked up Just face it poole had a bad start but made changes and have come good when it matters and the other teams have flopped. Poole have been the form team for weeks now and despite the fact they finished fourth they have always looked the favorites to me and to most others including the bookies ha ha comical. if you care to read posts correctly ive always said how bad Poole were at the start then due to Darcys injury made changes and ive actually said Matt Ford is good for Poole in this way. Ive said its obvious Poole are the form team and should romp the play offs. 2 weak links in Tungate and Dyer happen to be missing helps them. Have a good look at what i write before coming up with your usual dross and the only signing ive said is weak is Dyer instead of Howarth and i was proved right. nothing like twisting words and just in case you still cant comprehend please check out post 28 in 'congratulations elite league champs poole' where i do praise Matt Ford and what he does for Poole, but yet how bad he is for British Speedway oh and also that particular post has got 10 people liking it but i guess we are all wrong and the poole massive are right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Baz Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 (edited) I cant congratulate Poole, too many factors in that Belle Vue v Pirates televised match stunk to high heaven. For the umpeenth time we would not have been at Belle Vue that night had it not been for Water(main)gate. Do you think that was honest and above board? We would have got 4 league points that night if it had gone ahead. Edited October 9, 2013 by Pirate Baz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 For the umpeenth time we would not have been at Belle Vue that night had it not been for Water(main)gate. Do you think that was honest and above board? We would have got 4 league points that night if it had gone ahead. And how many against Lakeside when you called it off ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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