Fourentee Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 There's a lot of foreplay leading up to it but the cream rises to the top when the serious shift begins. Interesting analogy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritPete Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 It's still the Brummie's to lose, IMO, of course! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 Can't see Poole winning myself as Brum came first in the league and Poole only just got into the play offs 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 Nobody disputes Poole are the best team in the play offs. The issue is the way they got there 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 yes the way they got there is an issue calling off a home match 24hrs before because of an injured rider then saying it was 'agreed' with lakeside when john cook said he didnt 'agree' (think a stronger bspa chairman reqd to stop this happening again) matt ford certainly owes john cook one wonder what would of been the outcome had a stunt like that been pulled on poole! the belle vue farce seemed scripted, tangoman telling tungate to use ur head and stay on , so they can call it off after ten heats says volumes ! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldace Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 yes the way they got there is an issue calling off a home match 24hrs before because of an injured rider then saying it was 'agreed' with lakeside when john cook said he didnt 'agree' (think a stronger bspa chairman reqd to stop this happening again) matt ford certainly owes john cook one wonder what would of been the outcome had a stunt like that been pulled on poole! the belle vue farce seemed scripted, tangoman telling tungate to use ur head and stay on , so they can call it off after ten heats says volumes ! Agreed. Although I don't attend matches anymore and only rarely watch the EL on TV, I have always been glued to the TV for the play offs but this year I couldn't muster up any enthusiasm to watch even the play off. With Poole effectively give a place in the play offs and the underhand goings on of this season the win will be totally hollow. How can they get away with cheating when only a few weeks earlier other clubs have been sanctioned severely for 100% the exact same thing. No one condones the Aces calling off a match because they had missing riders, but even the Aces promotion knew that it would be blatant cheating to cite that as a reason and concocted the whole water leak scenario. Ford is so in control of the sport that he doesn't even try and dress it up when he calls off the Lakeside match and yet one team is fined and the other gets away scot free. Then the farce of the ten heat wonder at Belle Vue in September really put the seal on a whole sorry episode in British Speedway. A contrived result purely so poole could be in the play off. The sad thing is that Matt Ford is a very good promoter and could have done so much for British Speedway. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
van wolfswinkel Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 Tai grabs the national headlines, and lets face it Elite league speedway is on its arse in this country, falling crowds and very little national interest, not a patch on the heydays of 60s/70s/80s. The play-offs are a joke,the top club are the champions. Not that many fans are left to care thesedays, with riders riding for 4 different teams, guests, rider-replacement, no-shows. Lets have one big league, or north-south divisions, more british riders. The sport is far too expensive for fans for what it is. A once great sport that rivalled footie crowds now struggling...sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gavan Posted October 8, 2013 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 Thats the thing that Poole fans dont understand and us TRUE speedway fans can tell them time and again but they are not all intelligent enough to see the bigger picture. Its like its own little world down Dorset way, a little cocoon of trolls and deluded sycophants of Matt Ford. Just in case Shovlar and the rest of the Wim..yawn Road army dont understand this is what 90% of the forum try and tell you. Matt Ford is a brilliant promoter for Poole Speedway. he acted very quickly in getting riders in when he needed to and promotes the club very well which isnt that hard in a town where no other sport goes on. Matt Ford is a businessman he only cares about himself and making money cant blame him for that. Because of this the man pulls every trick in the book to get what he wants. Look at any controversy in the elite league this season and Poole were involved somehow. Thats not by chance its what Matt Ford is all about. Win at all costs People dont see what this is doing to the sport. Clowns like Shovlar are only concerned with the smaller picture and thats winning. Doesnt matter that in 2 or 3 years time fans and promotions will be so disallusioned with the sport there will be no top flight speedway as we know it. But thats ok as long as in 2013 it says Poole Pirates league champions. i await the usual guff from the blue tints ....sour grapes....anti poole.......choking on cornflakes........jealousy. Or will someone from Poole have the intelligence and decency to debate points. I doubt it 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike.Butler Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 It's not Matt Ford's fault that he is obviously the best promoter in the UK......it's the sheer unfit-for-purpose governance of the sport that allows his skills to undermine the competition as a genuine sporting contest with integrity.. .... I think that's the word he needs to ponder when he looks at the bigger picture and takes his fair share of responsibility for the demise of the Elite league as it inevitably meanders to a thing of the past.. I guess in the scheme of things he might just as well secure short-term gratification since i'm afraid there is no long-term future to worry about....still he's an entrepreneur and will be secure in doing something else by that time; whilst the rest of us remember how Speedway used to be before self-interest, desperation and profligacy by a few over the years took away what was once ours..ce'st la vie... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 Thats the thing that Poole fans dont understand and us TRUE speedway fans can tell them time and again but they are not all intelligent enough to see the bigger picture. Its like its own little world down Dorset way, a little cocoon of trolls and deluded sycophants of Matt Ford. Just in case Shovlar and the rest of the Wim..yawn Road army dont understand this is what 90% of the forum try and tell you. Matt Ford is a brilliant promoter for Poole Speedway. he acted very quickly in getting riders in when he needed to and promotes the club very well which isnt that hard in a town where no other sport goes on. Matt Ford is a businessman he only cares about himself and making money cant blame him for that. Because of this the man pulls every trick in the book to get what he wants. Look at any controversy in the elite league this season and Poole were involved somehow. Thats not by chance its what Matt Ford is all about. Win at all costs People dont see what this is doing to the sport. Clowns like Shovlar are only concerned with the smaller picture and thats winning. Doesnt matter that in 2 or 3 years time fans and promotions will be so disallusioned with the sport there will be no top flight speedway as we know it. But thats ok as long as in 2013 it says Poole Pirates league champions. i await the usual guff from the blue tints ....sour grapes....anti poole.......choking on cornflakes........jealousy. Or will someone from Poole have the intelligence and decency to debate points. I doubt it Thought you were warned twice recently to attack the post not forum members? Looks like you have again started attacking forum members. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 Thought you were warned twice recently to attack the post not forum members? Looks like you have again started attacking forum members. who have i attacked here then apart from calling you a clown which to be fair most people on here call you far worse. you called me someone who couldnt string a sentence together the other day. difference is it doesnt bother me. i suggest if you dont like being called a clown run to the mods like you always do. oh and thanks for totally avoiding the question and the content of my post. as usual! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waspman Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 U never know perry bar boys could stick 60 plus on Poole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 Thought you were warned twice recently to attack the post not forum members? Looks like you have again started attacking forum members. I seem to recall you using the Clown emoticon a number of times in a recent posting when referring to Gavan - so it's alright for you but not him? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 I seem to recall you using the Clown emoticon a number of times in a recent posting when referring to Gavan - so it's alright for you but not him? Sums up the Matt Fraud mentality in a nutshell... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 yes the way they got there is an issue calling off a home match 24hrs before because of an injured rider then saying it was 'agreed' with lakeside when john cook said he didnt 'agree' (think a stronger bspa chairman reqd to stop this happening again) matt ford certainly owes john cook one wonder what would of been the outcome had a stunt like that been pulled on poole! the belle vue farce seemed scripted, tangoman telling tungate to use ur head and stay on , so they can call it off after ten heats says volumes ! ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Oh Er, is that the time, jeez, i must have dosed orf... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YerRopes Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Oh Er, is that the time, jeez, i must have dosed orf... You debated that excellently Starman, I see Skidder liked it too.. It would appear that both you guys know the score and look the other way.. Down in Deepest Darkest there is no defence for the indefensible 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 Thought you were warned twice recently to attack the post not forum members? Looks like you have again started attacking forum members. Pot kettle, look at some of your fellow Poole supporters and yourself for a change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 You debated that excellently Starman, I see Skidder liked it too.. It would appear that both you guys know the score and look the other way.. Down in Deepest Darkest there is no defence for the indefensible Change the Record Yerropes, it really doesn't suit you.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 its the poole mentality. if we ignore the facts and the truth it will go away. if we dont like what people say we will bury our heads. we can attack posters but nobody else can we will avoid all reasonable debate we will not answer any questions we dont like the answer to. its a strange old place thats for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Know Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 its the poole mentality. if we ignore the facts and the truth it will go away. if we dont like what people say we will bury our heads. we can attack posters but nobody else can we will avoid all reasonable debate we will not answer any questions we dont like the answer to. its a strange old place thats for sure Debate what,Poole have done what others have the last few years.Just crept into the finals as they have come on form and now bar far the best team. We all surport our team as you all do. Were here now and looking for the win. Like Matt or not he has been good for Poole and will be around for a fair more years i would say.All these clubs and fans blaming Poole for everything need to look in the mirrer and sort there own house out. Any way your all BORING me now and most of Poole so take it on the chin and man up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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