Gemini Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 I would prefer Lions to have their normal five riders as well, plus a couple of E.L. guests, not Kenneth Bjerre, K.K. and Andersen so they've got three number 1's because Coventry are going to get slaughtered. I'm probably the only one quite okay with the fact the 'old needle' won't be there as I would prefer a nice friendly match. We'll leave all that until Leicester are in the Elite League. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 I would prefer Lions to have their normal five riders as well, plus a couple of E.L. guests, not Kenneth Bjerre, K.K. and Andersen so they've got three number 1's because Coventry are going to get slaughtered. I'm probably the only one quite okay with the fact the 'old needle' won't be there as I would prefer a nice friendly match. We'll leave all that until Leicester are in the Elite League. What on earth will you do then Gem? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 Good question but I think 30 years supporting the Bees will be too strong to break. Plus K.K. riding for Leicester (if the rumours are true) will be enough to tip the balance in Coventry's favour. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 Good question but I think 30 years supporting the Bees will be too strong to break. Plus K.K. riding for Leicester (if the rumours are true) will be enough to tip the balance in Coventry's favour. Aaaw Poor KK ..I did read on a Poole thread earlier that he's rumoured to be going back there. Silly season alert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 I did know that Gemini. It was more of a general observation about the way speedway is these days and fans having to put up with so many guests. This season has been appalling for it and the Bees may be using 'assets' but that doesn't make it a Bees team does it? Last time I looked Fisher, Barker and Tungate were all riding for other EL teams, which makes them guests, and Sargeant is a guest NL rider, albeit one from the Storm. Therefore, and this is my main point, for the promotions of both clubs to try and sell this to the public as a Bees v Lions fixture that rekindles those rivalries from days gone by is a joke. I used to love those meetings and was as passionate as anyone about beating the Bees but this is nothing like that and it's false to sell it as such in my opinion. To read the press releases you'd think it was Wilson v Boocock and Collins v Olsen all over again!!! I'm not against them having a fixture of course (and Leicester certainly need to fulfill season ticket obligations for one thing!) but it's really more akin to an end of season open meeting than a once great rivalry between two historic clubs. This is nothing like it used to be with EIGHT guests included just to make it happen rather than anything like a meaningful Lions v Bees match. I just think they should've waited until (if) they ride against each in a competitive fixture that might actually mean something rather than this somewhat 'forced' challenge meeting only made possible by the use of a staggering amount of guests. Just my view of course and I expect there's plenty who are looking forward to it. Good for them but as a Lions fan of yesteryear I have no intention of bothering with either meeting. Yes. I suppose we will need to wait for the league fixtures for meaningful meetings. However the way the EL does seem to run it does seem to be a taste of things to come as there are a lot of guests from what I can see. Especially if you want European riders. I am pleased that the promotion to the EL if it happens, shows sign of stability and longevity but worry for those getting excited about the meetings at BP being GP re runs and from what I've seen at Cov this season, I haven't been to any other EL fixtures this year, that is very much not the case. and we end up with a whole new line of moaning I hope they go into it with open minds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballinger Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 Niels Kristian Iversen replaces Rohan Tungate in the Coventry line up on Sunday 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 Niels Kristian Iversen replaces Rohan Tungate in the Coventry line up on Sunday YAY! That's more like it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 Certainly is and makes the two teams a bit more equal. Suppose there will be some more moaning now as he isn't a Coventry asset. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted October 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 Thats more like it. Love watching NKI and would have loved him as a Cov rider. Really hoping this horrible rain goes away as not looking good for tomorrow or the Brandonapolis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bee 26 Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 The weather forecast doesn't look good tomorrow, will it be rearranged if rained off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandersome Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 (edited) Niels Kristian Iversen replaces Rohan Tungate in the Coventry line up on Sunday Looking at the weather forecasts, they may as well announce Nikki Pedersen in place of James Seargeant for all the use it will be! Seriously, with the line-up that has been put in place i do wonder whether both promoters will be looking for an easy way out with the weather forecasts as they are. I'm guessing the line-ups pretty much require the promoters getting their bumper crowds and whereas thanks to the local rivalry i think that was pretty much nailed on in last weeks weather I can't see that being guaranteed if it's wet and miserable all weekend. Looks like a financial disaster to me if it's goes ahead and the weather is anything like what's being forecast. Edited October 12, 2013 by volty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted October 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 Really hope both meetings go ahead. If not hope they are restaged as looking forward to them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bees_Man Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 Heavy rain forecast all day tomorrow from early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skodaman Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 If the meetings go ahead, will KK be riding? He has a meeting in Poland tonight and therefore it will be a push for him to get to Coventry for a noon start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballinger Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 The meeting in Poland today starts at half 2 UK time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skodaman Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 The meeting in Poland today starts at half 2 UK time. Shouldn't be a problem then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTFC LION Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 Really hope this rain goes away. What a great line up of riders!! Something that will really interest me is how these top riders get on at BP ? I have spoken to DH on a few occasions, and he has always said that better quality riders would find different lines around BP. Well will be interesting to see if these top riders can do it? Also see if they can break Cooks track record?? Which he lowers every time he comes to BP. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skthecat Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 The "rain all day" scenario/forecast is not nailed on, and is the "worse" case scenrio..... There are a number of factors that are on a knife edge, and depending which side of the knife they fall, will decide the final weather pattern for tomorrow.. The real damage has probably already been done with the rainfall totals we've had over the last couple or three days.. The weather this time of year is not conducive to drying surface water quickly. If the track's had already been prepped with the forecast as its been for the last few days, then alot of the water would/should have run-off the tracks; and not soaked in ish.... Hopefully if we get the "best forecast" tomorrow, which is sunshine and heavy showers am, and cloudy, windy with the odd shower pm, we may just be ok.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandersome Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 (edited) Really hope this rain goes away. What a great line up of riders!! Something that will really interest me is how these top riders get on at BP ? I have spoken to DH on a few occasions, and he has always said that better quality riders would find different lines around BP. Well will be interesting to see if these top riders can do it? Also see if they can break Cooks track record?? Which he lowers every time he comes to BP. It certainly will be interesting to see what happens when better riders appear, bearing in mind they will also be riding against better riders. I'm amazed David Hemsley isn't a compulsive gambler with some of the random decisions he makes and opinions he has. His opinion on EL standard making the track work being the one of his most ill thought out, only slightly behind his decision to stick with the track shape. IMO of course! Interesting you mention Craig Cook in this post. His performances this year put him near to top class elite standard and he certainly would be in the top 4 or 5 riders around BP from all the riders riding in the UK this year, irrespective. IMO. I've mentioned it before but the intersting thing about him was the way last time he was at BP he won 4 races by almost if not the complete length of the straight but took 4 laps to get past a returning from injury Alex Edberg in his other. He probably finished that race at least 4 seconds slower than his other races and only got past when pressure finally told on Edberg and he made a mistake. That's was a rider literally in a different league and class who couldn't get by. Mick. Edited October 12, 2013 by volty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skodaman Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 It certainly will be interesting to see what happens when better riders appear, bearing in mind they will also be riding against better riders. I'm amazed David Hemsley isn't a compulsive gambler with some of the random decisions he makes and opinions he has. His opinion on EL standard making the track work being the one of his most ill thought out, only slightly behind his decision to stick with the track shape. IMO of course! Interesting you mention Craig Cook in this post. His performances this year put him near to top class elite standard and he certainly would be in the top 4 or 5 riders around BP from all the riders riding in the UK this year, irrespective. IMO. I've mentioned it before but the intersting thing about him was the way last time he was at BP he won 4 races by almost if not the complete length of the straight but took 4 laps to get past a returning from injury Alex Edberg in his other. He probably finished that race at least 4 seconds slower than his other races and only got past when pressure finally told on Edberg and he made a mistake. That's was a rider literally in a different league and class who couldn't get by. Mick. Alex is not the quickest of riders but his strength is that he is difficult to pass, 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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