Fromafar Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 Nobody said they needed to throw cash about all over the place. They don't maximise what they have got, or show any initiative to project the business. Have you ever heard the saying "pennywise, pound foolish" or even "speculate to accumulate" and you are right the club could go belly up. Unless someone wakes up and smells the coffee, shows some initiative, it will be a slowly strangulating, lingering death.IMO the majority of speedway clubs have been taken over by business men/speedway supporter who genuinely have the sport at heart,but unfortunately when it comes to running the club some find themselves out of there depths some do not like outsiders giving advice because it is club and their money behind the venture others have too any people in the consortium who all want do it their way. I think when it comes to Sponsers again some clubs invite small local business men to get involved then it becomes a vicious circle because a lot of Sponsers of this nature want a say in how the club is run which in some cases is not ideal.IMO Sponsers should support their local club for the benefits that it has on their business and leave the Promoter to run the club. I think you need to be a very rich person if you want to invest in a speedway club.Attracting a National Company as a major Sponsers is the Ideal situation who do it as a business venture and not self interest.It is interesting that one of the most successful Promotions (Poole) have always had Decent Sponsers but Matt Ford has always been the Main Man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 But if there is no money in the club how do you expect them to pay top dollar they can only spend and pay out what they have like every other club or go belly up. if theres no money in the club why dont they put it up for sale i wish they would - customer relations is absolute zero 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond_ren Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 if theres no money in the club why dont they put it up for sale i wish they would - customer relations is absolute zero customer relations is absolute zero - That just about sums up British speedway though, the promoters don't give a monkeys about the fans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmiddlesbrough Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 I know for a fact backers were their wanting to take over but this has now seemed to have fell through as they wanted to take over lock stock and barrel but the existing promotion didn't want that, Shane really as I think they would of been more in touch with what the fans want. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedcarRacer Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 We all know the current regime do NOT lose money, hence why they wont let go. The crowds especially towards the end were very good, and Newcastle was big in play-off. They have paid basic, got lucky with Dyer, which papered over the cracks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellers101 Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 I agree. If Dyer hadnt doubled his average we would have been nowhere. I doubt we went out all guns blazing to get him but just got lucky like you said RR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedcarRacer Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 So Brian H says we are getting an air fence now, the foam has to be flame retardant in foam fences now which has doubled the price. Seems Summers and Skidmore are nailed on for next year and team is to be built around them - can't be too unhappy with that - both solid if unspectacular but you need those riders in any side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 Aaron Summers has signed for Bears 2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinh88 Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 solid signing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellers101 Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 (edited) So Brian H says we are getting an air fence now, the foam has to be flame retardant in foam fences now which has doubled the price.Seems Summers and Skidmore are nailed on for next year and team is to be built around them - can't be too unhappy with that - both solid if unspectacular but you need those riders in any side. Yes, he now wants an airfence and because of that he will now keep the mandatory 'voluntary' £1 admission donation in place to pay for maintenance. What a surprise! Edited November 21, 2013 by Bellers101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedcarRacer Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 Well my hats will go off to Brian H and the brothres if they can bring in the top class number one he claims to be after. And another signing to turn heads. Personally will be very happy with if we only see Summers and Skidmore back, we needed a fresh start. http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/speedway/aaron-summers-signs-redcar-bears-6330767 Skipper Aaron Summers will lead Redcar Bears again next season. The popular 24-year-old Aussie is the first rider to be confirmed for the club’s 2014 line-up - but promoter Brian Havelock expects more to follow shortly. Havelock says he is looking at bringing an “iconic” No 1 to South Tees Motorsports Park next year and he is also chasing another rider whose signing would turn heads. And the Bears supremo confirmed that 2013 Rider of the Year Hugh Skidmore could also sign on the dotted line for 2014 before long. Record signing Summers, 24, returns to Redcar for a fourth season, and his third as skipper having succeeded Gary Havelock following the former world champion’s career-ending crash at the start of 2012. “Aaron was one of the first to say he was keen to come back, along with Skidders,” said Havelock, “and we took that on board. “Aaron is good, he’s reliable and he doesn’t live a million miles away. “He’s no trouble and he wants to ride here. “I’d expect Hugh to follow although we have several permutations and if things don’t work out with one of them you’re 0.4 over the average limit before you know where you are. But I do expect him to follow.” Havelock has also revealed that he plans to have a big-hitting No 1 to spearhead the team’s Premier League charge next year. “My thinking is that if I get a No 1, he’ll go out and get 10 points every meeting,” said Havelock. “We haven’t had a No 1 who could do that for a while. “Ulrich Ostergaard came in and did it but once he lost the No 1 racejacket, he went down. “We’re potentially close to getting the guy I am after - we’re just waiting on the powers that be. “He’s the sort of rider who would turn heads, and the one I’m looking at for lower down the order is as well. “In fact I’ve got two cracking riders who want to come here. “I think we’ll have a great side if we get where we want to be.” The Bears’ first home meeting of 2014 will be a challenge match against Berwick on Thursday, March 27. Riders will give their services for free and money raised will go towards the cost of an air fence which must be in place for the start of next season. A return match will take place at Shielfield Park the following Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 Might be Richard Lawson as your number 1, its confirmed he is leaving Workington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedcarRacer Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 And isnt he a Peterborough asset? That would make sense in terms of Havvy snr saying powers that be, as he would need to talk to BSPA about him wouldnt he? Would love him, but wont get too excited just yet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 And isnt he a Peterborough asset? That would make sense in terms of Havvy snr saying powers that be, as he would need to talk to BSPA about him wouldnt he? Would love him, but wont get too excited just yet... No, he is a Workington asset Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedcarRacer Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 Interesting, be shocked if we could afford him - but be very welcome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boz Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 Good start to team building, and it is nice to have at least one or two familiar faces in the side. Interesting to see who the new number 1 might be, although fairly certain we hear the same thing every year and we have not ended up with one yet! Maybe someone dropping down from Elite? Or someone like Nick Morris who always seems to fly round our place (highly unlikely i know, but we can dream!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond@heart Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 I would have thought a "big-hitting No 1 to spearhead the team’s Premier League charge next year" and someone "he’ll go out and get 10 points every meeting,” said Havelock" won't come cheap as well as rider that will turn heads so maybe the money is in place??? Maybe he has found a pot of gold somewhere or he is paying them with hopes and dreams. What about David Howe, he generally rides your place well?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 I would have thought a "big-hitting No 1 to spearhead the team’s Premier League charge next year" and someone "he’ll go out and get 10 points every meeting,” said Havelock" won't come cheap as well as rider that will turn heads so maybe the money is in place??? Maybe he has found a pot of gold somewhere or he is paying them with hopes and dreams. What about David Howe, he generally rides your place well?? What about David Howe - I saw him score a brilliant 18 Point Maximum at Brough a couple of years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond@heart Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 (edited) What about David Howe - I saw him score a brilliant 18 Point Maximum at Brough a couple of years ago. I'm sure he scored a brilliant 15 point maximum for the Diamonds against the Bears at STMP a couple of years ago as well (I think)!! Edited November 22, 2013 by diamond@heart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebaker Posted November 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 Richard Lawson 8.28 Kozza Smith 7.15 Summers 7.14 Ostergaard 6.52 Skidmore 5.65 Adam Ellis 4.25 Rohert Lambert/Brady Kurtz 3.00 Total:41.99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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