Heedthebaw Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Kozza told me at the start of last season after the Mason Campton situation that Berwick had taken out a 2 year Visa for him so he would be safe for two years, maybe if he had accepted Berwick's offer for this year he would still be riding in the UK in 2014. I'm sure i read somwhere that Alex Davies was in the same situation but because they have changed clubs, certain parts of the criteria can not be transferred to another club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedcarRacer Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Kozza told me at the start of last season after the Mason Campton situation that Berwick had taken out a 2 year Visa for him so he would be safe for two years, maybe if he had accepted Berwick's offer for this year he would still be riding in the UK in 2014. I'm sure i read somwhere that Alex Davies was in the same situation but because they have changed clubs, certain parts of the criteria can not be transferred to another club  Footballers have to apply for new work permits too so you would presume that is the case for all sportsmen. Still a shame as Kozza he would have been a very popular rider - and unlike most of our team capable of adding to his average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch Me If You Can Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Kozza told me at the start of last season after the Mason Campton situation that Berwick had taken out a 2 year Visa for him so he would be safe for two years, maybe if he had accepted Berwick's offer for this year he would still be riding in the UK in 2014. I'm sure i read somwhere that Alex Davies was in the same situation but because they have changed clubs, certain parts of the criteria can not be transferred to another club Probably the Sponsor Certificate is unique to one club and cannot be used at another? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinh88 Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Kozza I think would have been around an 8 point average this season While probably never a No1, he shot himself in the foot dropping it in scoring posistions  Maybe an opportunity to bring in a potential No1, otherwise Redcar will struggle this year I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comet49 Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Probably the Sponsor Certificate is unique to one club and cannot be used at another?I'm sure that Mason Campton moving from Glasgow to Workington was part of the the problem he had last year. I think the BSPa should have an expert to deal with all the applications instead of clubs having to do it themselves, Kozza's good to watch, shame he's not going to be here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harman Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Shame about Kozza after all the seasons he has raced here with no problems, a good man to have in your team both on and off the track. Who are Redcars options now or will they start the season with R/R? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king junior Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Shame about Kozza after all the seasons he has raced here with no problems, a good man to have in your team both on and off the track. Who are Redcars options now or will they start the season with R/R? Nico Covatti? Dakota North? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comet49 Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Don't think they can use R/R as Kozza won't have actually rode for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Kozza I think would have been around an 8 point average this season While probably never a No1, he shot himself in the foot dropping it in scoring posistions  Maybe an opportunity to bring in a potential No1, otherwise Redcar will struggle this year I think Isn't Richard Lawson a No1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boobs Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Shame about Kozza after all the seasons he has raced here with no problems, a good man to have in your team both on and off the track. Who are Redcars options now or will they start the season with R/R? Certainly can't use r/r for a rider who has never raced for you and who isn't going to be available anyway. Exceptions granted in the past were for riders returning to their last season's club who had been injured pre-season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Feel sorry for ALL Riders who have been denied Visas. Â It appears we can let ANYBODY in to this Country apart from Speedway Riders. :sad: Â I've had an idea- why don't they wear Burkhas - they would probably be OK then. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 I'm sure that Mason Campton moving from Glasgow to Workington was part of the the problem he had last year. I think the BSPa should have an expert to deal with all the applications instead of clubs having to do it themselves, Kozza's good to watch, shame he's not going to be here. Why should the BSPA have an expert to deal with the visa's ? Â Thought it was down to the clubs to apply for these. ? Â Surely if each club applied in time or getting a 3 year visa these problems wouldn't happen as often. Â When it happened last year to Sam and mason , you would think clubs would have been aware of the problems ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Feel sorry for ALL Riders who have been denied Visas. Â Â Â See I don't, clubs should've done enough back ground checks and waited till everything is confirmed before announcing any signings. This oh I thought everything was ok just isn't thorough enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Â See I don't, clubs should've done enough back ground checks and waited till everything is confirmed before announcing any signings. This oh I thought everything was ok just isn't thorough enough. But THAT is down to the Clubs. It's the Lads themselves I feel sorry for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMungo Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 See I don't, clubs should've done enough back ground checks and waited till everything is confirmed before announcing any signings. This oh I thought everything was ok just isn't thorough enough. Whilst generally I do agree with you, Screm, you also get some supporters whinging on here (as if!) about a lack of news in some cases. Damned if you do, damned if you don't... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 The buck must stop with the riders surely?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 I do believe it's down to the clubs, but also think riders should play a part in making sure these are in place . Â After all it is there liveyhood ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comet49 Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Why should the BSPA have an expert to deal with the visa's ? Â Thought it was down to the clubs to apply for these. ? Â Surely if each club applied in time or getting a 3 year visa these problems wouldn't happen as often. Â When it happened last year to Sam and mason , you would think clubs would have been aware of the problems ? Promoters come from all walks of life, eg ex riders and aren't experts in legal matters, I'm sure the BSPA could afford to use an immigration specialists skills for a couple of months or so to make sure everything was in order or to advise whether a visa was likely or not. Disappointing for riders and fans too when when they're turned down at this late stage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heedthebaw Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 I do believe it's down to the clubs, but also think riders should play a part in making sure these are in place . After all it is there liveyhood ? A club can not apply for a visa. That is 100% down the the rider. The club applies for a certificate of sponsorship to support the visa application 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 I do believe it's down to the clubs, but also think riders should play a part in making sure these are in place . After all it is there liveyhood ? Agree they are meant to be professional sportsman so if they are changing clubs ect they should make sure there are no obstructions or rule changes regarding things like visas.It does seem a bit harsh but if that is the ruling tough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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