TMW Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 HA HA yes I'm having to hold mu sides to stop them from splitting 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justathought Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 Leicester are buoyed by the news that Jason Doyle has now received clearance to race in this country for Leicester and will take his place at the head of the team to face Wolverhampton on Saturday at the Jordan Road Surfacing Stadium. It will be an historic day for the club as the fixture signals the first meeting for the Rapid Solicitors Lions in the Elite League. “I was relieved to receive confirmation from Jason who told me he will be flying out tomorrow and will be landing early on Thursday morning. The news has come just in time as the deadline for declaring the Leicester team to the BSPA for 2014 had to happen prior to 7.30 pm on Wednesday evening. Now all it leaves is for Jason to test his bikes before Saturday and his presence will be a big boost to his teammates and Leicester Speedway” commented the Lions Promoter, David Hemsley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 SPEEDway is there Not a clue in the name of the sport ? LOL I have seen some of the best races at Peterborough,Sheffield,Bydgoszcz and other big tracks. Funniest post of 2014 award winner TMW No way, I'm voting for Weatherwatcher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwatcher Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 (edited) This is how I was always told that the rules of speedway where applied. It must be me who was told wrong all those years ago by a top class speedway rider. Speedway has 2 very different standards. Team racing as in 2 riders per team trying to get first from the gate, hopefully both your teams riders and then working as a pair to stop the opposite teams pair of riders from getting past you. Something that most teams are incapable of. The other is individuale races where 4 riders go head to head, then try to overtake. With the standards of most riders, more so from this contry it seems they are usually trailing half a lap or more behind everyone else. I don't think the Lions have a strong enogh team to, be winning that many races , not at the start of the season anyway. Hope they can come together as a team as the season goes on, but it is going to be a long uphill struggle for them in this first season, in the EL. Doyle just dosn't seem to me to be a No.1 rider. They could have done with someone a bit stronger to lead the team. We will haqve to wait and see Edited March 25, 2014 by weatherwatcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 This is how I was always told that the rules of speedway where applied. It must be me who was told wrong all those years ago by a top class speedway rider. Speedway has 2 very different standards. Team racing as in 2 riders per team trying to get first from the gate, hopefully both your teams riders and then working as a pair to stop the opposite teams pair of riders from getting past you. Something that most teams are incapable of. The other is individuale races where 4 riders go head to head, then try to overtake. With the standards of most riders, more so from this contry it seems they are usually trailing half a lap or more behind everyone else. I'd love to know where these meetings take place where riders are trailing half a lap or more behind. I've been attending speedway since the early 1980's and bar a rider falling off, I haven't yet seen this. Ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 I'd love to know where these meetings take place where riders are trailing half a lap or more behind. I've been attending speedway since the early 1980's and bar a rider falling off, I haven't yet seen this. Ever. Maybe when a tracks wet but your right. The reserve heats last night were only a second or 2 slower, its hardly half a lap difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 I'd love to know where these meetings take place where riders are trailing half a lap or more behind. I've been attending speedway since the early 1980's and bar a rider falling off, I haven't yet seen this. Ever. At the risk of getting a hail of bricks heading my way......... you've obviously not been to Beaumont Park yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwatcher Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 I have seen many races with riders half a lap or so behind.as Big Al says it is quite regular at BP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 I have seen many races with riders half a lap or so behind.as Big Al says it is quite regular at BP This can't be so. We're told the racing is far much better in the PL and the teams more equal? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 No way, I'm voting for Weatherwatcher It is close but TMW stands out the funniest,tracks too fast,hehe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 This can't be so. We're told the racing is far much better in the PL and the teams more equal? Well I think that we're being sold the EL venture by the promotion, partly on the basis that riders will be of a higher standard and therefore closer together on the track. Time will tell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwatcher Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 Now to change the subject. After coming to watch the Lions practice the other week, I do hope that Max Clegg has spent a few or should I say a few days, fine tuning his starting. Was anyone there on the start line to watch him, it made me cringe. He hopped around 3 feet then 2 feet followed by another hop and jump, by which time the other 3 lads would be part way around bend 2. The one to impress me was Mads, after trying one or 2 things with his mechanics they at last got it right. He put together 3 or 4 good starts and gave his mechanic the nod who was standing on bend 2 and went round the track better than I have seen most riders tack to the track. Perry was also impresive. Can't wait until Sunday to see how it goes. Think Wolves will win but it will be good to see how the Lions perform on thier first meeting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandersome Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 Now to change the subject. After coming to watch the Lions practice the other week, I do hope that Max Clegg has spent a few or should I say a few days, fine tuning his starting. Was anyone there on the start line to watch him, it made me cringe. He hopped around 3 feet then 2 feet followed by another hop and jump, by which time the other 3 lads would be part way around bend 2. You mean he looked like exactly what he is; a 16 year old Novice, just starting out in the sport who for all intents and purposes has been unfairly thrust into the elite league limelight before he's anywhere near ready for it! 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 ........weatherwatcher........ Was anyone there on the start line to watch him, it made me cringe. He hopped around 3 feet then 2 feet followed by another hop and jump, by which time the other 3 lads would be part way around bend 2. That would be where he got his nickname 'Kangaroo Clegg' from then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 You mean he looked like exactly what he is; a 16 year old Novice, just starting out in the sport who for all intents and purposes has been unfairly thrust into the elite league limelight before he's anywhere near ready for it! Here was me thinking they had a choice... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandersome Posted March 26, 2014 Report Share Posted March 26, 2014 Here was me thinking they had a choice... That's the trouble with 16 year olds... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidder1 Posted March 26, 2014 Report Share Posted March 26, 2014 That's the trouble with 16 year olds... 'Its what youngsters do at that age'!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted March 26, 2014 Report Share Posted March 26, 2014 Now to change the subject. After coming to watch the Lions practice the other week, I do hope that Max Clegg has spent a few or should I say a few days, fine tuning his starting. Was anyone there on the start line to watch him, it made me cringe. He hopped around 3 feet then 2 feet followed by another hop and jump, by which time the other 3 lads would be part way around bend 2. The one to impress me was Mads, after trying one or 2 things with his mechanics they at last got it right. He put together 3 or 4 good starts and gave his mechanic the nod who was standing on bend 2 and went round the track better than I have seen most riders tack to the track. Perry was also impresive. Can't wait until Sunday to see how it goes. Think Wolves will win but it will be good to see how the Lions perform on thier first meeting. Based just on points scored against their opposite numbers on the other teams, riders 6 & 7 between them can score a maximum of 15 points per match, and a minimum of 2 - that's as long as they both finish each heat, and doesn't cater for any times they pick up additional points such as by finishing ahead of the other team's 2 or 4 (or their own 2 and 4!). So, if they're going to "pull their weight" in terms of points contribution towards a win for the team, they are going to need to score on average at least 9 points between them (and of course riders 1-5 will have to do their stuff as well!). Anything less than that, will require riders 1-5 to hit above their weight. If Leicester's reserves can't produce their average 9 points per match, will the 1-5 guys be able to make up the shortfall and score more than 36 between them? I think it's a tough ask. maybe at home they can do it, but unlikely away. Perry & Clegg are going to be key riders to Leicester's winning or losing, and i think it's an unfair situation to put two such inexperienced riders into. But it's the way things are, unfortunately. Leicester didn't invent this new system, but they did choose the riders ahead of others and so they must be confident in them being able to produce the points - the question is when will that happen?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted March 26, 2014 Report Share Posted March 26, 2014 The key to this match could be Piotr Pawlicki, who 'may' not be able to ride due to Polish U-21 commitments. If he rides, it will be a close match with a chance of an away win. If he doesn't you have to fancy Leicester for all 3 pts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim the whipper Posted March 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2014 Based just on points scored against their opposite numbers on the other teams, riders 6 & 7 between them can score a maximum of 15 points per match, and a minimum of 2 - that's as long as they both finish each heat, and doesn't cater for any times they pick up additional points such as by finishing ahead of the other team's 2 or 4 (or their own 2 and 4!). So, if they're going to "pull their weight" in terms of points contribution towards a win for the team, they are going to need to score on average at least 9 points between them (and of course riders 1-5 will have to do their stuff as well!). Anything less than that, will require riders 1-5 to hit above their weight. If Leicester's reserves can't produce their average 9 points per match, will the 1-5 guys be able to make up the shortfall and score more than 36 between them? I think it's a tough ask. maybe at home they can do it, but unlikely away. Perry & Clegg are going to be key riders to Leicester's winning or losing, and i think it's an unfair situation to put two such inexperienced riders into. But it's the way things are, unfortunately. Leicester didn't invent this new system, but they did choose the riders ahead of others and so they must be confident in them being able to produce the points - the question is when will that happen?? I think this season will see some absolute shockers from the reserves and also some big surprises . not just Leicesters but all the elite teams reserves . that's the nature of inexperience , the youngsters who will benefit most from this new idea will be the ones who are part of teams with a consistent top 5 who can carry them on the off nights and take the pressure off their points tally being so critical , some of the younger riders will take a while to settle into the more Insular world of Elite league , having spent their formative time In "team" surroundings it will take some adjustment getting used to being one of the seven , and your team captains main concern is how much he is being paid and will he make it in time for the airflight to his next paycheck rather than the welfare of his underlings , at the end of 2014 season some of the draft riders will have taken the step up in their stride and become better riders , but a lot more will be happy having experienced life at the top table to go back to the safety of the national league 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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