Big Al Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 Maybe the new race format includes handicapping riders over an 8pt av 15mtrs ,that should give the Lions a chance.!! Would only help until the first green sheets start to apply, then all Lions riders will be going off 15mtrs 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 Hope lions do well, but cant see any lions rider averaging over 8 this season. That said I can see ljung averaging over 8 as a second string if heat formst is expected - but as soon as he rides as a heat leader his average will go straight back under Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 Would only help until the first green sheets start to apply, then all Lions riders will be going off 15mtrsRight enough if you have employed a Team of Gaters,should do ok at that track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrow boy Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 Hope lions do well, but cant see any lions rider averaging over 8 this season. That said I can see ljung averaging over 8 as a second string if heat formst is expected - but as soon as he rides as a heat leader his average will go straight back underDid you know that in his last 10 matches last season Jason Doyle averaged 9+. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 Did you know that in his last 10 matches last season Jason Doyle averaged 9+.was that in El or including his Pl matches though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrow boy Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 was that in El or including his Pl matches though Just his matches for Birmingham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 Hope lions do well, but cant see any lions rider averaging over 8 this season. That said I can see ljung averaging over 8 as a second string if heat formst is expected - but as soon as he rides as a heat leader his average will go straight back under Jason Doyle, if....................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 Just his matches for Birmingham.Home and away?lets see your statistics on Doyle you seem to have them for everything during the season.Im not disputing that Jason is a decent rider but his green sheet average for the end of the season was 7.30.is he going to be Liecester No1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 Did you know that in his last 10 matches last season Jason Doyle averaged 9+. I just hope he lives up to his expectations and we have a good season and stop that interminable moaning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 Also nailed-on for EL playoffs, so should be a bit more earnings there - unlike Swindon who have noo chance Maybe - but you really think the Swindon B team (aka Leicester) are nailed on for the play-offs?? Not many people have said that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandersome Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 Maybe - but you really think the Swindon B team (aka Leicester) are nailed on for the play-offs?? Not many people have said that Not being a Leicester fan i fear you may be missing the thread dynamic a little Steve0.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTFC LION Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 Just a few questions on Doyle situation, 1. If Doyle is self employed, as most riders are, is it not against UK Tax laws that he only has one employer?? 2. If his visa says he can only work and I guess that means being paid by one employer, why could he not guest for any other team?? If say Birm wanted to use him then surely this could happen, Birm pay Lions for the use of an unnamed rider, Lions pay Doyle. I am sure there are ways around it. But could anyone who knows the facts please put me right?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrow boy Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 Home and away?lets see your statistics on Doyle you seem to have them for everything during the season.Im not disputing that Jason is a decent rider but his green sheet average for the end of the season was 7.30.is he going to be Liecester No1. Yes he will be the number one and his rolling average for presumably the whole of last season is 7.30 but he did better than this at the end of the season. If he does ride and continues to improve he will presumably soon achieve an average that is more becoming of a team leader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 Did you know that in his last 10 matches last season Jason Doyle averaged 9+.Excluding bp? he will be on a new home track and having more races against heatcleaders, albeit offset by a slight lowering standards of heat leader (no lindgren, hancock etc) . Id tip him to finish a shade below 8, but could well be proved wrong - obviously in good form in the oz champs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandersome Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 Excluding bp? he will be on a new home track and having more races against heatcleaders, albeit offset by a slight lowering standards of heat leader (no lindgren, hancock etc) . Id tip him to finish a shade below 8, but could well be proved wrong - obviously in good form in the oz champs. He has always looked very good around BP. Taking Craig Cook out of the equation i would say Doyle was considerably better than any other PL rider around BP and looked good enough for me to think if he can get to the first corner in good order then no one will be passing him PL or EL (with maybe the exception of Ward....) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 By bp I meant bonus points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 Yes he will be the number one and his rolling average for presumably the whole of last season is 7.30 but he did better than this at the end of the season. If he does ride and continues to improve he will presumably soon achieve an average that is more becoming of a team leader.You have not answered my Question regarding how he obtained his 91/2 pt average was it including all his matches or just his HOME average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 Maybe - but you really think the Swindon B team (aka Leicester) are nailed on for the play-offs?? Not many people have said that oops - forgot to add a ......didn't realise we had visitors. Naughty step for Al Seriously though, all the talk about what Doyle's going to do etc - he aint got the visa yet. Tier 5 applications only have less than a 1 in 4 chance of being accepted. And as yet no sign of rider # 5 although that's of course due to the Doyle situation. So any predictions are still a bit premature I guess till its all finalised. Except that Poole are in the playoffs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrow boy Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 You have not answered my Question regarding how he obtained his 91/2 pt average was it including all his matches or just his HOME average. Most current 10 league and playoffs matches for Birmingham includes all away matches in that period so it represents his overall home and away form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 Most current 10 league and playoffs matches for Birmingham includes all away matches in that period so it represents his overall home and away form.thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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