weatherwatcher Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 I have been reading the treads for quite a while but only just decided to join in the forums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwatcher Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Just seen the latest news on Hanson and he has signed for Coventry. So it looks like they must has made their offer before Leicester could. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INCOGNITO Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Leicester and Coventry are looking at race nights due to clashing with the GP's and each other. Heard that one is looking at Wednesdays and the other at Thursdays. There was even a suggestion that Tuesdays were considered which would obviously clash with Sweden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandersome Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Just seen the latest news on Hanson and he has signed for Coventry. So it looks like they must has made their offer before Leicester could. or maybe he considered the way riders are treated by their respective promotions and took the decision most current Lions riders appeared to have taken in not wanting to ride for such an #rse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.N.T. Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 I for one wouldn't be able to attend every mid week match because the kids couldn't come. I must say that my kids love the speedway and have been to lots of away matches with me this season. Both are really disappointed that they won't be able to go during school terms. If it is such a big problem, we could arrange alternate Friday nights as there will only be EL speedway every fortnight. I'm all for Elite League speedway and Friday nights would be perfect. Trouble is that the EL has cut down on fixtures over the last few seasons mainly to make sure that teams could line up with the big names each meeting. With the GP's (12) and SEC (6) plus the WTC (2), thats EIGHTEEN Saturdays where many of the top riders would not be able to race over here on the Friday. In 2014 tracks are looking at doing more fixtures and not one every now and again which has hit some tracks hard. Therefore any big name will only ride over here if they commit to the season and can fit them in along with Poland and Sweden (+ Denmark). Some like Freddie Lindgren has already said he will be riding in Sweden on two nights and Poland on Sundays along with the GP's and SEC. Therefore he has opted to miss out (to be confirmed) on Britain after 10 loyal seasons at one track. Leicester look to have Kasprzak lined up for next season who is in the GP's and also Poland on a Sunday but didn't do Sweden in 2013 and therefore has weekdays free to ride over here. Next season there will be very few riders that are willing to do more than three from Poland, Sweden, Denmark, Britain, GP's and the SEC with only Tai Woffinden (not Denmark) and Darcy Ward (not Denmark or SEC) so far saying they want to have that hectic calendar. ..... Must be the MONSTER in them !! If Leicester switched to Tuesdays (or Wednesdays) then KK would be available and depending on the visiting team having any riders in the Swedish League which may be very few !! .... If there is only Tai and Darcy that this affects then these could be run on weeks Sweden dont ride or a Monday night if Sky are still involved With Coventry, Wolverhampton, Peterborough, Kings Lynn and Lakeside not too far away, it makes sense to ride in the EL and not ave to travel north of the border or up North again apart from Belle Vue. I wish them well if they do move up as expected as I know a lot of work has gone into the Leicester project for decades and the rise of the club since opening has shown there is a future for speedway in the area. Look forward to visiting when Wolves are there and then onto one of the great curry houses after ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 valve Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 or maybe he considered the way riders are treated by their respective promotions and took the decision most current Lions riders appeared to have taken in not wanting to ride for such an #rse. In reality, Lions cant offer top flight racing to any rider until they are "allowed" in. As for how riders are treated at Leicester v other promotions, I think its generally recognised that the Lions promotions pays it riders far more promptly than most. If you refer to riders being told their performances are not up to scratch (to put it politely) when results are poor, well I for one think they desrve it - On the other side I have seen plenty of congratulations being given out when things go well. DH is a winner, and most certainly is not a good loser. This I admire. after all show me a good loser & I will show you a loser! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim the whipper Posted October 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 No I'm not new to speedway. There can't be any more than 20-30 people who wear other teams colours at Leicester, and of them there is only a handful from Cov or Peterborough. My argument is, there are a lot of people with young children attend at the weekend. The next generation of supporters. If we go midweek they wouldn't attend and nor would the parents in some cases. I'm sure this number of people missing would outnumber the flocks of non Lions supporters that wouldn't attend. I for one wouldn't be able to attend every mid week match because the kids couldn't come. I must say that my kids love the speedway and have been to lots of away matches with me this season. Both are really disappointed that they won't be able to go during school terms. If it is such a big problem, we could arrange alternate Friday nights as there will only be EL speedway every fortnight. I am speaking as a lifelong supporter of the lions from BR to present day. I'm all for Elite League speedway and Friday nights would be perfect. Oh , shame about you not being new to speedway as that would at least have gone some way towards explaining your stupid replies , Of course Elite league is only once a fortnight , and guess what ?, there's a reason for that, because all the top riders are away at GP's every other week , maybe Dave Hemsley would agree to run on Gp weeks every other friday , Problem is there won't be anyone to race against because the other teams won't want to come without their top riders who are at the Gp practise . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P T Preece Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Surely if you support Leicester you would go to Leicester if you support Cov you would go to Cov what difference does it make?. For the few stragglers who may make their way over to either. With Birmingham - Cov - Wolves - Leicester and to a lesser extent Peterboro being in the same vicinity surely away fans would would make up for that anyway. 5 of the 8 teams don't seem to have GP riders anyway. I would just point out though that I'm not a fan of joining the EL anyway . Its not the supporters that would complain, the promotion at Cov would be the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcts Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Oh , shame about you not being new to speedway as that would at least have gone some way towards explaining your stupid replies , Of course Elite league is only once a fortnight , and guess what ?, there's a reason for that, because all the top riders are away at GP's every other week , maybe Dave Hemsley would agree to run on Gp weeks every other friday , Problem is there won't be anyone to race against because the other teams won't want to come without their top riders who are at the Gp practise .Why are you such a jerk,the guy had gave a very good response to one of your many STUPID posts,he was spot on with what he said!You make me laugh a few weeks ago you said you were never going to post on the leicester threads again then all of a sudden you delete that post and miraculously like Lazarus reappear with another batch of STUPID posts......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim the whipper Posted October 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Why are you such a jerk,the guy had gave a very good response to one of your many STUPID posts,he was spot on with what he said!You make me laugh a few weeks ago you said you were never going to post on the leicester threads again then all of a sudden you delete that post and miraculously like Lazarus reappear with another batch of STUPID posts......... ever thought of minding your own business , the guy never gave a good response at all . In fact I think he may be equally as stupid as you , although that would take some doing , now go and fill a large bucket of water and soak your head in it for a couple of hours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcts Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 ever thought of minding your own business , the guy never gave a good response at all . In fact I think he may be equally as stupid as you , although that would take some doing , now go and fill a large bucket of water and soak your head in it for a couple of hoursHa,mind your own business on a public forum? ......Are you for real?Go back to excluding yourself....but this time make it permanent......hypocrite! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim the whipper Posted October 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 What a horrible man you are. How can anyone come on here and make their points of view, only to be slagged of by a twit like you. You are just what speedway wants! Wa#ker. Why dont you and Mrcts start your own Little thread . then you can post whatever you like without having to put any thought into it . and mrcts can continually post nothing of any substance just keep moaning about anyone who posts anything relevant . Happy days all round , we wont need to try and explain the blindingly obvious to you , and you and him can just type out ill thought posts and pat each other on the back , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandersome Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 (edited) In reality, Lions cant offer top flight racing to any rider until they are "allowed" in. As for how riders are treated at Leicester v other promotions, I think its generally recognised that the Lions promotions pays it riders far more promptly than most. If you refer to riders being told their performances are not up to scratch (to put it politely) when results are poor, well I for one think they desrve it - On the other side I have seen plenty of congratulations being given out when things go well. DH is a winner, and most certainly is not a good loser. This I admire. after all show me a good loser & I will show you a loser! So you're saying Hansen didnt sign for the Lions because they weren't confirmed as an EL team.. I think it was Mcenroe who said it. you cannot be serious. i'm not going there with the payment thing. Dont know enough about that to say either way and I'm sure you don't either. I will say ive not seen any evidence that DH is a winner in business though 1valve and that is what we're talking about here. He may have been a winner as a cycle speedway rider but as a businessman i could quite confidently make the case that he looks like a blooming disaster. Leicester look to me in parlous state, irrespective of the fact they are going for the EL. It looks the no gamble 'gamble' last throw of the die to me. They don't even appear willing to see their season ticket holders right, those people being their most loyal supporters. it would be nice if you could add a bit of substance to back up your winner theory beyond the level of him being a successful cycle speedway rider. I'm afraid what you see as the traits of a winner probably equals my view as the traits as an arrogant pr*t .. Mick. Edited October 28, 2013 by volty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcts Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Why dont you and Mrcts start your own Little thread . then you can post whatever you like without having to put any thought into it . and mrcts can continually post nothing of any substance just keep moaning about anyone who posts anything relevant . Happy days all round , we wont need to try and explain the blindingly obvious to you , and you and him can just type out ill thought posts and pat each other on the back ,Well done you've described yourself to a tee.No substance,checkMoaning,checkBelittling others,checkHypocrite,checkCheck mate!If the Elite League survives into 2014 and therefor there is a choice , Which league would you like to see the Lions in ? Supporters of other teams are welcome should they wish to participate , and wit and sarcasm are totally acceptable , But personal abuse is not .Why don't you practice what you preach! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 valve Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 (edited) So you're saying Hansen didnt sign for the Lions because they weren't confirmed as an EL team.. I think it was Mcenroe who said it. you cannot be serious. i'm not going there with the payment thing. Dont know enough about that to say either way and I'm sure you don't either. I will say ive not seen any evidence that DH is a winner in business though 1valve and that is what we're talking about here. He may have been a winner as a cycle speedway rider but as a businessman i could quite confidently make the case that he looks like a blooming disaster. Leicester look to me in parlous state, irrespective of the fact they are going for the EL. It looks the no gamble 'gamble' last throw of the die to me. They don't even appear willing to see their season ticket holders right, those people being their most loyal supporters. it would be nice if you could add a bit of substance to back up your winner theory beyond the level of him being a successful cycle speedway rider. I'm afraid what you see as the traits of a winner probably equals my view as the traits as an arrogant pr*t .. Mick. Your not very good at reading threads are you Mick. I said Lions cant offer top flight racing to any rider - I never mentioned Hansen, I just quoted a fact. This will not change untill (if) they are alowed in to whatever is the top flight in 2014. Lets also recognise that Coventry is a top speedway club and as a young rider I guess Hansen felt whatever deal was offered to him was good enough to accept v any other offers that came his way and he is now set for next season nice & early which has got to be good for the kid. As for the payment thing - I know enough to back what I stated. As for being a winner - DH brings speedway back to Leicester in a new stadium with FIM international recognition, support/attendance is good v other clubs and the top flight begin to make positive noises about admitting the Lions into the top flight after only 3 years of opperation. I dont expect this can be achieved without doing a lot of things right behind the scenes and maybe breaking even or even operating at an affordable loss in the formative years is acceptable. Overall, I cant see anything to point to failure in running the business. What do you see Mick? And please dont say p***** off sponsors is one, because sometimes (unfortunately) sponsors forget that they are sponsors not owners or promoters and try to push the boundries in that regard. Also sometimes sponsors dont always provide what they said they will provide. In other words there is always at least two sides to the story and whilst DH has made mistakes, I see that he has made more right decisions than wrong, and I and I believe many other Lions supporters wish him & his promotion all the best in continuing to bring what is a far from wealthy sport to Leicester. Edited October 28, 2013 by 1 valve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Its not the supporters that would complain, the promotion at Cov would be the problem. They could be but I think you will find last time it was Peterborough who objected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skthecat Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 It would be really interesting to see how these debates on this thread went face to face to face in a pub after match..!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 valve Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 It would be really interesting to see how these debates on this thread went face to face to face in a pub after match..!! Sounds fun, but I fear many would not be prepared to listen to the other parties point of view. That said perhaps the supporters club could set up a few meetings in the close season and invite speakers to address specific topics in an orderly fashion which could be advertised in order to guague interest. If it could be done in good spirit then would help pass a few speedway less nights quite well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 It's only one or two from every club and you'll get to know which ones so just ignore them. Welcome to the forum. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwatcher Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 A big welcome don't let them put you off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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