Aces51 Posted September 14, 2014 Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 It does seem very unfair when teams in the play offs lose heat leaders and can't replace them. Belle Vue lost Bjerre after finishing top of the league in 2005 and then lost the play off final. However, we all know what would happen if replacements were allowed. Certain teams would produce medical certificates for off form riders or, riders who do not do well at a particular track and replace them with horses for courses. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted September 14, 2014 Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 when is the latest this meeting can run? if it perhaps rains heavily on Tuesday could it be re run next week............then we will be home from our hols.............and riders could be fitter/available.............. We'll have from next Wednesday to Sunday as cut off is Monday and we're already away to Belle Vue that day. We can run it after then but it won't count towards the play-Off positions and we really need top spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted September 14, 2014 Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 First I wish Kenneth all the best for a full and speedy recovery. Even as he flew thro the air last night I feared it would hit Lynn hard. KB is the type of rider who takes time to come back from injury so it doesn't bode well for the play offs. As for Tuesday, and indeed the play offs if necessary, KB is easier to replace than NKI. All is not yet lost for Lynn. Whilst I wouldn't wish injuries on anyone the Coventry and Swindon riders have a fair few meetings before the play-offs to come, so all could change massively by the semi finals. Yeah I am a glass full kind of gal I said at Coventry, to some Coventry fans that we would lose there by 20 I was 6 out . I also said I expect Coventry to win the play offs and I stand by that, especially if there even a few spots of drizzle for the semis and the final. Like many others I've always been against the play-offs, saw on BBC this morning that in Rugby there is an Elite Winners Shield and also play offs. Is the concept too difficult for the BSPA to understand? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted September 14, 2014 Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 First I wish Kenneth all the best for a full and speedy recovery. Even as he flew thro the air last night I feared it would hit Lynn hard. KB is the type of rider who takes time to come back from injury so it doesn't bode well for the play offs. As for Tuesday, and indeed the play offs if necessary, KB is easier to replace than NKI. All is not yet lost for Lynn. Whilst I wouldn't wish injuries on anyone the Coventry and Swindon riders have a fair few meetings before the play-offs to come, so all could change massively by the semi finals. Yeah I am a glass full kind of gal I said at Coventry, to some Coventry fans that we would lose there by 20 I was 6 out . I also said I expect Coventry to win the play offs and I stand by that, especially if there even a few spots of drizzle for the semis and the final. Like many others I've always been against the play-offs, saw on BBC this morning that in Rugby there is an Elite Winners Shield and also play offs. Is the concept too difficult for the BSPA to understand? But they are not League winners though that is also decided in a playoff situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted September 14, 2014 Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 But they are not League winners though that is also decided in a playoff situation. Spot on .Just like Rugby not one would turn up to the play offs unless a title was up for grabs . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted September 14, 2014 Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 Well I may have got the name wrong but I understood Aunty Beeb to say they had won a shield. So I blame them, it's probably because it seems all their journalistic staff are on a jolly in Scotland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted September 14, 2014 Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 We'll have from next Wednesday to Sunday as cut off is Monday and we're already away to Belle Vue that day. We can run it after then but it won't count towards the play-Off positions and we really need top spot. Why do you really need top spot? The only thing it gives you is choice of teams and, given your current woes, I can't see you wanting to pick any of the other 3 teams now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted September 14, 2014 Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 Why do you really need top spot? The only thing it gives you is choice of teams and, given your current woes, I can't see you wanting to pick any of the other 3 teams now. I think if we get top spot it will give the Lynn fans the satisfaction of knowing they have been the best team over the course of the regular league season. In reality with what has happened in the last 2 weeks we are now 4th favourites to win the play-offs. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted September 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 Why do you really need top spot? The only thing it gives you is choice of teams and, given your current woes, I can't see you wanting to pick any of the other 3 teams now. Even though we are probably fourth favourites that's no reason to chuck in the towel.....finishing top and thus having the choice to avoid Swindon and Poole gives us a better chance, albeit meaning a tough tie against Coventry, although I think riding them gives us the best chance as they don't ride Lynn as well as Swindon or Poole. If we can manage to get to the final anything can then happen with injuries etc. Plus as has been mentioned there is also the prestige of finishing top. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Fever Posted September 14, 2014 Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 I think if we get top spot it will give the Lynn fans the satisfaction of knowing they have been the best team over the course of the regular league season. In reality with what has happened in the last 2 weeks we are now 4th favourites to win the play-offs. Absolutely! We already know that we've been the best team in the league throughout 95% of the season, and finishing top would confirm it. Play-offs are just a money-spinning mickey-mouse knock-out competition over a few weeks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted September 14, 2014 Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 Absolutely! We already know that we've been the best team in the league throughout 95% of the season, and finishing top would confirm it. Play-offs are just a money-spinning mickey-mouse knock-out competition over a few weeks. Hardly Mickey Mouse ..no one cares who comes top of the league the play offs is all that matters . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted September 14, 2014 Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 I think if we get top spot it will give the Lynn fans the satisfaction of knowing they have been the best team over the course of the regular league season. In reality with what has happened in the last 2 weeks we are now 4th favourites to win the play-offs. Sorry - have to disagree. The league campaign is a qualifying competition - to top the league means nothing - it doesn't mean you were the best team over the season and the only reward you get for finishing top is to pick who you race against! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted September 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 Sorry - have to disagree. The league campaign is a qualifying competition - to top the league means nothing - it doesn't mean you were the best team over the season and the only reward you get for finishing top is to pick who you race against! He said the 'regular' season, there is no doubt that finishing top of the table makes a team the best across the regular season. It just doesn't make them champions, the Play Offs must be won to achieve that. While orion is right that many people don't care who finishes top, as a fan of the team who has been top of the pile nearly all year I'd say it very much matters to me that we finish top, whatever may happen thereafter. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted September 14, 2014 Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 He said the 'regular' season, there is no doubt that finishing top of the table makes a team the best across the regular season. It just doesn't make them champions, the Play Offs must be won to achieve that. While orion is right that many people don't care who finishes top, as a fan of the team who has been top of the pile nearly all year I'd say it very much matters to me that we finish top, whatever may happen thereafter. Of course there is a doubt! The aim of the 'regular' season is to finish in the top 4. Finishing top does NOT make you the best team over the season - ask any other team that have been in that position before - Swindon, Poole, Birmingham etc. Now, whether I think it is right or not is another question. I have always believed that whoever finishes top should be the champions and then the top 4 do the play-offs - BUT that is not how it is. While it is the way it is - top of the league does not equate to the best team! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted September 14, 2014 Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 Lynn have never ever been top of Elite League or when it was just the plain old British League, so for me it would be a massive positive. People outside of Lynn maybe won't remember it but I'm sure Lynn fans will. As for the play-offs I think a lot of Stars fans aren't expecting to win the thing, so any progress will be taken as a bonus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted September 14, 2014 Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 I also want to say that KL were my tip to win it this year (and still can) but as with last year the injury curse will possibly impact this. Looking at the play offs, outside of Swindon, I would still want KL to win 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted September 14, 2014 Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 Some clearly have no idea what they're talking about. It's absolutely imperative we finish top of the pile as Coventry in the semi's is our only hope and it gives us the 2nd leg at home. If Poole top the table that will be them picking us or Coventry and our 1st leg at home and much less chance of getting through. Finish top for me isn't about being the best or 'the real league winners' etc that some talk about. It's about giving us the best chance to win the title. To do that we have to finish top and pick Coventry. Then there's a chance Poole and Swindon knock 7 bells out of each other and it's back on for us if we make the final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted September 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 Of course there is a doubt! The aim of the 'regular' season is to finish in the top 4. Finishing top does NOT make you the best team over the season - ask any other team that have been in that position before - Swindon, Poole, Birmingham etc. Now, whether I think it is right or not is another question. I have always believed that whoever finishes top should be the champions and then the top 4 do the play-offs - BUT that is not how it is. While it is the way it is - top of the league does not equate to the best team! Very little doubt for me. There is a saying in football that 'the table doesn't lie' and I think its true, you finish where you deserve to. Riders want to score as many points as they can to earn more money and clubs want to finish as high as they can to get more preferable semi final opponents. Unless you are telling me that sometimes teams don't care whether they win or not then whoever finishes top after 32 matches is the best team in the regular season. The Play Offs are a different matter altogether. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champion2010 Posted September 14, 2014 Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 Some clearly have no idea what they're talking about. It's absolutely imperative we finish top of the pile as Coventry in the semi's is our only hope and it gives us the 2nd leg at home. If Poole top the table that will be them picking us or Coventry and our 1st leg at home and much less chance of getting through. Finish top for me isn't about being the best or 'the real league winners' etc that some talk about. It's about giving us the best chance to win the title. To do that we have to finish top and pick Coventry. Then there's a chance Poole and Swindon knock 7 bells out of each other and it's back on for us if we make the final. Coventry fans seem to also want King's Lynn so maybe we can help you by beating Poole tomorrow night 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted September 14, 2014 Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 What a load of old rubbish. Regardless of the wording, or the name of a competition, winning a 4 team play-off can be called what they like. to be called Champions is just a word that means nothing... The best team of the season is the one that finished top of the league. a competition that stretches 7 months and includes 150 matches. Just because the BSPA come up with an stupid idea to generate an extra meetings for the tele, at the cost of demeaning the league structure doesn't make it right. With decisions like that, can you wonder why people are leaving in their droves. The league don't lie, But anybody can win a four team tournament. Especially when half the teams are made up of guests .... What a Joke this sport is.......... 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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