A ORLOV Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 That's how i read it, top man will be at 1, and next two in averages can ride at either 3 or 5.. That is what I am wondering if it meant and the statement issued is another ambiguous statement from the bspa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 That is what I am wondering if it meant and the statement issued is another ambiguous statement from the bspa. Jesus, there's nothing ambiguous at all. It is what it says. "Top three riders by MA ride at No.1, No.3 or No.5". What really is so confusing about that??? The word OR makes it perfectly clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 I would imagine that your top rider still has to race at number one, tho nothing to confirm that is there. It says that the top three riders ride at 1, 3 OR 5. I'd have thought it would have specified so if your top man has to ride at 1. That's how i read it, top man will be at 1, and next two in averages can ride at either 3 or 5.. Jesus, there's nothing ambiguous at all. It is what it says. "Top three riders by MA ride at No.1, No.3 or No.5". What really is so confusing about that??? The word OR makes it perfectly clear. So the confusion about the bspa statement from these posters is wrong. No doubt it will be clarified at some point, then we shall find out if it is ambiguous or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 (edited) So the confusion about the bspa statement from these posters is wrong. No doubt it will be clarified at some point, then we shall find out if it is ambiguous or not. Bagpuss doesn't sound confused to me, also highlighting the word OR. Thing is though, I think all the top average riders will want No'1. It's that mental thing about being the best, the same reason I should imagine Woffy chose No'1 in the SGP's rather than his actual No'108. Also the No'1 position has the most evenly spread heats. The home No'5 has it tough having to be out in heats 3, 5, 11, 13. Can't see the top guy opting for that slot. Edited February 28, 2014 by screamer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 I would imagine that your top rider still has to race at number one, tho nothing to confirm that is there. The 'draft' rule did not specify that the top MA rider had to ride at No.1!!! So assuming that was what was ratified yesterday, then the use of 'OR' (1, 3 OR 5.)is probably sufficient explanation! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 The 'draft' rule did not specify that the top MA rider had to ride at No.1!!! So assuming that was what was ratified yesterday, then the use of 'OR' (1, 3 OR 5.)is probably sufficient explanation! Quite possibly. I still think that top averaged riders will stay at number one. Time will tell i guess! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YerRopes Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 Interesting... http://www.speedwaygp.com/news/article/3165/british-switch-for-schlein 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 Interesting... http://www.speedwaygp.com/news/article/3165/british-switch-for-schlein Cant see how it would make GB stronger if he did choose that route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted March 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 In the short term of course it would, an improvement on the likes of Barker, Bridger and Kennett from last year. However he has already represented Aus so that should be that. Plus I would much rather see our youngsters getting a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 Cant see how it would make GB stronger if he did choose that route. Your not serious are you? He'd only be behind Woffy & possibly Bomber. He's better than anything behind them. Cook, Worrall, Bridger, Barker etc are nowhere near the quality of Schlein He's also got vast European track experience which is where GB get absolutely battered once part the UK qualifier Absurd comment Steve In the short term of course it would, an improvement on the likes of Barker, Bridger and Kennett from last year. However he has already represented Aus so that should be that. Plus I would much rather see our youngsters getting a chance. Agreed, but if Schlein decided he wanted to ride for GB we'd be mad to let the opportunity go. As I said on another thread, this will be more to do with GP qualifiers / his own personal gain than anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 No way should Rory ride for GB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 (edited) Agreed, How can you have riders picking and choosing which Country they ride for. Rory is a Kings Lynn Rider, but if selected should be riding for Oz, Not Team GB Edited March 3, 2014 by semion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 (edited) Your not serious are you? He'd only be behind Woffy & possibly Bomber. He's better than anything behind them. Cook, Worrall, Bridger, Barker etc are nowhere near the quality of Schlein He's also got vast European track experience which is where GB get absolutely battered once part the UK qualifier Absurd comment Steve If you seriously believe that Schlein is way better than Cook/Worrall/Bridger/Barker then its you that is making an absurd comment. Schlein has hardly pulled up any trees all bar one season of genuine number one status. His starting average of 6.84 is below that of Cook who has so much less experience than Schlein. Barker is on 6.47 - less than half a point behind and only just half a point above Bridger. Worrall with much less experience and EL experience is a point behind . If Schlein is choosing the GB route to try get into the GP`s then its a no from me. His motivation is self centred and id rather we push the likes of Cook and Worrall who potentially have the ability to exceed Schlein in the future. Bomber at least has had a couple of seasons where he has looked a World class rider who belonged in the GP`s. Something Rory hasn't delivered on IMHO. So no i don't agree that Schlein would make a huge difference to team GB. The only saving grace is that he would be at least guaranteed a starting place which would intensify that 4th spot and make the chasing pack of Brits work harder to prove their worth which could only be good for the GB riders futures. But in a year where we promote the most promising youngsters into the EL reserves slots it would be totally insane to allow a true Aussie to take out a British license in order to further his own career. It would be beyond a crazy thing to allow. Edited March 3, 2014 by stevebrum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish keeper Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 If you seriously believe that Schlein is way better than Cook/Worrall/Bridger/Barker then its you that is making an absurd comment. Schlein has hardly pulled up any trees all bar one season of genuine number one status. His starting average of 6.84 is below that of Cook who has so much less experience than Schlein. Barker is on 6.47 - less than half a point behind and only just half a point above Bridger. Worrall with much less experience and EL experience is a point behind . If Schlein is choosing the GB route to try get into the GP`s then its a no from me. His motivation is self centred and id rather we push the likes of Cook and Worrall who potentially have the ability to exceed Schlein in the future. Bomber at least has had a couple of seasons where he has looked a World class rider who belonged in the GP`s. Something Rory hasn't delivered on IMHO. So no i don't agree that Schlein would make a huge difference to team GB. The only saving grace is that he would be at least guaranteed a starting place which would intensify that 4th spot and make the chasing pack of Brits work harder to prove their worth which could only be good for the GB riders futures. But in a year where we promote the most promising youngsters into the EL reserves slots it would be totally insane to allow a true Aussie to take out a British license in order to further his own career. It would be beyond a crazy thing to allow. Why Holta did it and rode for Poland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 Why Holta did it and rode for Poland. Holta was World class and Norway had little chance to gain any glory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted March 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 If Rory suddenly became British he'd probably become our third best rider right now with Nicholls retired. Cook and Worrall will probably surpass him over the next couple of years if they can get regular rides on the continent but Barker, Bridger and Kennett (all selected in last years SWC) aren't really in the same bracket if you compare their averages with Rory in Sweden & Poland. All that said I can't see him ever representing Team GB, but he would certainly improve the squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish keeper Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 Holta was World class and Norway had little chance to gain any glory. Holta was ok but never world class I.M.O. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 Holta was ok but never world class I.M.O. It`s all opinions, neither is right or wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 (edited) Don't matter anyway. Rory as vigerously denied it. Although that means nothing this century Edited March 3, 2014 by Phil The Ace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishRoundabout Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 Schlein is better than the aforementioned Barker, Worrall, King and Bridger by a country mile, and would of course enhance / reinforce the GB side. But like others have said on here, its all about personal interests, and he should remain an Aussie and compete for an Aussie place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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