foreverblue Posted July 13, 2014 Report Share Posted July 13, 2014 Well thats lakeside's chances gone for the season, I know I said pk wasnt riding as well as he was but dropped for kim nillsson unbelievable. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted July 13, 2014 Report Share Posted July 13, 2014 spoke to neil vatcher at Cardiff on Saturday and he said he was gutted that they had to release pk but it was for financial reasons , don't know the ins and outs of his contract but maybe pk is on a guarantee of some sort and with him not scoring as he has in the past that could be the reason for him being released and possibly kim nillson i would think is a cheaper option . just hope that is not the last we see of pk in the uk would love to see him back at wolves That explains it although It's a strange explanation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Goes completely against what was written in the star about Lakeside being a very well run viable club, they claim crowds are up and business is good then they do this claiming its for financial reasons! If its purely Lakeside's call then it's idiotic in the extreme, they have a date Monmore Green next Monday and PK would have been a key player there in getting a half decent result. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny the spud Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Goes completely against what was written in the star about Lakeside being a very well run viable club, they claim crowds are up and business is good then they do this claiming its for financial reasons! If its purely Lakeside's call then it's idiotic in the extreme, they have a date Monmore Green next Monday and PK would have been a key player there in getting a half decent result. Only the people involved know exactly why this was done. Maybe it is a good example of the club being well run. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agrotron Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Maybe with all the fans thinking this is a strange decision Lakeside should release another statement detailing why PK was released instead of hearsay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Goes completely against what was written in the star about Lakeside being a very well run viable club, they claim crowds are up and business is good then they do this claiming its for financial reasons! If its purely Lakeside's call then it's idiotic in the extreme, they have a date Monmore Green next Monday and PK would have been a key player there in getting a half decent result. There are two points of view to consider; the riders, and the clubs. From the riders point of view its hardly worthwhile for a seasoned rider in the twilight of his career to fly, in and maintain a couple of bikes, van pit crew etc if he is not going to be well paid. Riders might do that in the early stages of their career when they need the experience but they don't need it later on. One can understand why a top rider doesn't want a pay cut, if that was the problem in PK's case Now look at it from the clubs point of view. In modern speedway clubs cannot afford to pay a No1's money to a rider not scoring a No1 's points. How do you tell the rest of the team that the No 1 is scoring less points than they are but he gets more money ? When you get to the situation that the rider on a No 1's money is on an average that almost drops him to a second string role and riders on second strings money find themselves about to promoted into a heat-leader role the situation becomes untenable. As in any other area of life people want the rate for the job. Like everyone else I am a massive admirer of PK and I am gutted that it has come to this, but unfortunately these things happen in speedway as in any other walk of life. Maybe with all the fans thinking this is a strange decision Lakeside should release another statement detailing why PK was released instead of hearsay Why should they ? Its a confidential matter between employer and employee. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjolnir Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 (edited) Goes completely against what was written in the star about Lakeside being a very well run viable club I think you might have missed the point regarding the rumoured financial aspect of the decision - E I Addio has understood it the same way that I did: There are two points of view to consider; the riders, and the clubs. From the riders point of view its hardly worthwhile for a seasoned rider in the twilight of his career to fly, in and maintain a couple of bikes, van pit crew etc if he is not going to be well paid. Riders might do that in the early stages of their career when they need the experience but they don't need it later on. One can understand why a top rider doesn't want a pay cut, if that was the problem in PK's case Now look at it from the clubs point of view. In modern speedway clubs cannot afford to pay a No1's money to a rider not scoring a No1 's points. How do you tell the rest of the team that the No 1 is scoring less points than they are but he gets more money ? When you get to the situation that the rider on a No 1's money is on an average that almost drops him to a second string role and riders on second strings money find themselves about to promoted into a heat-leader role the situation becomes untenable. As in any other area of life people want the rate for the job. Like everyone else I am a massive admirer of PK and I am gutted that it has come to this, but unfortunately these things happen in speedway as in any other walk of life. As I've already said, it's been such a pleasure having PK at our club and he has more than lived up to his fantastic reputation - but the unfortunate fact is that his overall performance this season has been well below what would be expected even considering the injury he returned from. Although the financial aspect probably isn't the whole reason for Kim's return, I'd say that our club is well-run and viable is because our promotion (usually) make sensible decisions. Why pay big money for a rider who isn't scoring big points? Plenty of others have been spending beyond their means and I'm glad that we're not! As I say though, whether this was initiated by Lakeside or PK, one way or another his performance this season is surely the underlying reason. Edited July 14, 2014 by Mjolnir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice Of Reason Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Maybe with all the fans thinking this is a strange decision Lakeside should release another statement detailing why PK was released instead of hearsay Yep - we should take a leaf out of Matt Fraud's book of communication techniques; as in the case of Lee Smart, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 If a well run club like lakeside have to release a rider due to financial reasons, then the sport is heading for some stormy waters! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Maybe with all the fans thinking this is a strange decision Lakeside should release another statement detailing why PK was released instead of hearsay A press release has already been made with the information required. Talk about pot, kettle black as a Poole supporter asking for more information, you just couldn't make it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAST GATER Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 I did say a couple of weeks ago that a change of scenery maybe of benefit to PK ( still think this now) and pehaps that is the line of thinking by both parties .What ever the reason we have no rights to know but IMO L/side have behaved in dignified manner towards one of the all time greats of league racing and he has accepted in the manner becoming of one . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon Hammer Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Crowds have definitely been down this year, even this last month with decent weather, team and racing. Not sure why, have thoroughly enjoyed the season so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 (edited) To make matters worse Lewis has now been sacked from his job in Poland because for whatever reason ( some say its was the booze with Batch after Cardiff ) and he missed his flight, Now he says he will see Lakesides fixtures out and call it a day. I really don't understand Lewis . Every time he gets things running his way he does something to mess it up. He is such a talent and the last few meetings at Lakeside have shown just how good he can be : 11 wins or paid wins in his last 13 races and two last places, one due to a puncture and one due to getting out of shape in a rut. Briliiant form now its all messed up again. It leaves Lakeside in a mess because If Lewis is going to pack it in at the end of the season motivation will be difficult, and riding in the EL alone is not enough to keep sharp. So frustrating because Lewis at his best is a very entertaining rider. Edited July 14, 2014 by E I Addio 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 At least he admits it was completely his own fault. Expensive mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnificentseven Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 If a well run club like lakeside have to release a rider due to financial reasons, then the sport is heading for some stormy waters! Which World have you been living in? We have been in those stormy waters for the last couple of years - it takes stories like this, the demise of Birmingham and doubts about Eastbourne and Coventry before anyone thinks mmmmm perhaps there is something wrong with British Speedway after all. Wolfie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 If a well run club like lakeside have to release a rider due to financial reasons, then the sport is heading for some stormy waters! Maybe they are a well run, stable club because they cut their cloth accordingly, and that means dropping n expensive under performing rider. in that respect, well done to them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjolnir Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 (edited) To make matters worse Lewis has now been sacked from his job in Poland because for whatever reason ( some say its was the booze with Batch after Cardiff ) and he missed his flight, Now he says he will see Lakesides fixtures out and call it a day. I really don't understand Lewis . Every time he gets things running his way he does something to mess it up. He is such a talent and the last few meetings at Lakeside have shown just how good he can be : 11 wins or paid wins in his last 13 races and two last places, one due to a puncture and one due to getting out of shape in a rut. Briliiant form now its all messed up again. It leaves Lakeside in a mess because If Lewis is going to pack it in at the end of the season motivation will be difficult, and riding in the EL alone is not enough to keep sharp. So frustrating because Lewis at his best is a very entertaining rider. Such a shame that he's made this mistake and then let the consequences affect him in that way. Hopefully a bit of time (and a good chat with Jon Cook) will change his mind - it could just be his frustration speaking at the moment. If he did miss the flight because he was out drinking with Batch then it's even more disappointing because I thought this season he had matured a bit and was taking things more seriously. Hopefully he'll end up just looking back on this as a mistake and a lesson learned ... we all drop the ball sometimes! Edited July 14, 2014 by Mjolnir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott1412 Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Such a shame that he's made this mistake and then let the consequences affect him in that way. Hopefully a bit of time (and a good chat with Jon Cook) will change his mind - it could just be his frustration speaking at the moment. If he did miss the flight because he was out drinking with Batch then it's even more disappointing because I thought this season he had matured a bit and was taking things more seriously. Hopefully he'll end up just looking back on this as a mistake and a lesson learned ... we all drop the ball sometimes! He missed the flight because he lost his passport out on the beers after the speedway GP. He knows he has let himself down as well as his club in Poland and is now probably feeling sorry for himself. No doubt he can turn it around like he has done before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjolnir Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 He missed the flight because he lost his passport out on the beers after the speedway GP. He knows he has let himself down as well as his club in Poland and is now probably feeling sorry for himself. No doubt he can turn it around like he has done before. I really hope he does - such a talent and such an entertaining rider to watch at Lakeside each week. We all make mistakes - and he's got plenty of career left ahead of him to get another team place in Poland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott1412 Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 I really hope he does - such a talent and such an entertaining rider to watch at Lakeside each week. We all make mistakes - and he's got plenty of career left ahead of him to get another team place in Poland. everything about him seems to be either a massive high or low and no in between. massively too good to walk away and hopefully for Lakeside he finishes the season well and that encourages him to continue moving upwards for next season. Just hope he don't hit the self disrtuct button for the rest of this season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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