Wolverhampton 2014

[Eduds1]

Tai Woffinden will be the main guest on the Colin Murray show on Talk Sport on Tuesday. The show starts at 10 but guests come in at 11 and are usually on for 30 minutes or more.

 

Well Done Tai

Is that am or pm

[BluPanther]

Is that am or pm

AM..

[stevebrum]

News from tonight's talk in.

 

Ty Proctor and Jacob Thorssell confirmed starters for next season. Tai hopefully dependent on AGM.

Sam Masters has emailed CVS weekly and is keen to be at Wolves next season. He hasn't heard anything from his parent club Somerset yet.

Pontus has made progress this year and would be a consideration.

Ashley Morris - No more NL so PL and possibly some EL (with Wolves).

Jakub Jamrog - is probably to wild for Monmore. Berge the young French lad is probably a couple of seasons away from being EL ready.

 

* FREDDIE IS HAVING A SEASON OUT OF EL *

 

No new on the SKY contract but their will be an inevitable weakening of both EL and PL if that is the case.

 

If EL is weakened it is believed 3 teams will join.

 

Teams are looking at 20 home meetings with regional competition to start the season.

 

Ty is looking to race in Sweden and Poland and not PL. He has interest from Sweden and 3 clubs interested in Poland. If these fall thru it is possible he will double down as needs more racing.

 

An interesting bit of information was shared on Mikkel Michelsen and Michael Jepsen Jensen.

Michelsen was keen to join Wolves, spent a lot of time with PA, PA payed for his flight for a trip back from Poland but he never turned up. It was then announced he had signed for Eastbourne which Wolves were surprised at.

MJJ chose to sign for Wolves but wanted to race in EL there and then at the back end of 2011 and we couldn't give him the racing he needed so went to Peterborough.

A story was told about Peter Ljung as the replacement for Ty (after the Michelsen deal fell thru) but to protect PA i wont publish the details on here as Lakeside promotion might be offended!!

 

Doubling up is likely to continue.

 

*if no SKY then the double points is likely to revert back to normal tactical substitutes *

 

The top GP boys probably earn a million!!

[T.N.T.]

Judging by what was said at the Wolves talk in tonight and through conversations I have had recently, it very much looks like Leicester are moving up and should the EL and PL cut back the limits next season, Ipswich and Workington may apply to join also in 2014.

11 teams works fine and it was confirmed tonight that if it is 11 they would look at riding both teams twice at home and twice away giving 20 home meetings and 20 away meetings before the play offs .... which they want to change to Monday & Wednesday for each clash.


Should it be more than 11 and go to 13 or 14 (Sheffield maybe), then they would be looking at riding each other just once home and away (12/13 x2) and then starting the season with a seperate competition with two groups of seven (6 home and 6 away) adding to those. .... Obviously no room for the return of a KO Cup



Personally I would hope they agree the Leicester approach as they tried last season but then close the door to do the 20/20 fixtures. At least it looks to be the end of the unbalanced fixture list of riding one team more than another.


Should the SKY deal not go through .... havent even held talks with them yet, 2 weeks before the AGM ..... then it looks like double tac points will be replaced by the old tac sub rides which will please quite a few

 

 

 

What the limit would be reduced to is unsure and will depend on how many teams start, but if its as man as 14 then the limit could well be lower than 36 but Wolves will be starting with Ty Proctor and Jacob Thorssell and are moving heaven and earth (along with the BSPA) to ensure Tai Woffinden is back next season wearing the Wolves #1 race jacket.

 

Hopefully Pontus Aspgren 3.15 will also be included as I know he is keen to come back to Wolves and Sam Masters 3.85 has been in touch with CVS every week since March and would be keen to lne up next season ...... it just remains to be seen if the rest of the team would be more like Skornicki and Wells or Morris and Blackbird ? ?

[Brummie Kev]

Some interesting posts there from Steve and TNT, thanks for sharing them. So 3 current Pl teams looking to join the El if its weakened, I would guess Leicester and Ipswich would be 2 but what about the third team. Sheffield with the stadium and track they have should be in the top flight, perhaps they could under new owners but I have a hunch on Somerset. Fantastic track, had a great year, so perhaps a new challenge and big local derbies against the Robins.

 

Was there any talk of any current El teams dropping out, a few with money worries?

Edited November 5, 2013 by Brummie Kev

[stevebrum]

Some interesting posts there from Steve and TNT, thanks for sharing them.

 

Was there any talk of any current El teams dropping out, a few with money worries?

Nothing mentioned, but who knows after the AGM!!

[T.N.T.]

Some interesting posts there from Steve and TNT, thanks for sharing them. So 3 current Pl teams looking to join the El if its weakened, I would guess Leicester and Ipswich would be 2 but what about the third team. Sheffield with the stadium and track they have should be in the top flight, perhaps they could under new owners but I have a hunch on Somerset. Fantastic track, had a great year, so perhaps a new challenge and big local derbies against the Robins.

 

Was there any talk of any current El teams dropping out, a few with money worries?

 

 

Leicester are almost certain to miove up and I have been told that Ipswich and Workington are likley to apply while Sheffield may apply under new owners

 

Only team mentioned about dropping out was Eastbourne but it was pointed out they say that every year and still line up the following March

 

 

 

Nice for KKS / Hougaard Racing / whoever ...... MJJ nearly signed for Wolves but couldn't wait til the following season and so joined Peterborough. Since then he has spoken to Pete Adams who admitted they made a mistake and should have waited and regret signing for Peterborough.

[fish keeper]

 

 

Leicester are almost certain to miove up and I have been told that Ipswich and Workington are likley to apply while Sheffield may apply under new owners

 

Only team mentioned about dropping out was Eastbourne but it was pointed out they say that every year and still line up the following March

 

 

 

Nice for KKS / Hougaard Racing / whoever ...... MJJ nearly signed for Wolves but couldn't wait til the following season and so joined Peterborough. Since then he has spoken to Pete Adams who admitted they made a mistake and should have waited and regret signing for Peterborough.

Let get MJJ signed for next season then.

[Phil The Ace]

I have to say well don to PA an wolves. As there talk ins seem to be very well presented going by the fans reaction on here every year.

 

They always seem very thorough and knowledgable. So well done wolves promotion. T

[INCOGNITO]

So Peter Adams let it out of the bag that they have just missed out on Jepsen Jensen in 2011 and Michelsen in 2014.

 

 

At least he never said anything about Mikkel Bech !!

[RedcarRacer]

For the guys who were at the forum, was anything said about Dudley going PL at Monmore?

[hans fan]

News from tonight's talk in.

 

An interesting bit of information was shared on Mikkel Michelsen and Michael Jepsen Jensen.

Michelsen was keen to join Wolves, spent a lot of time with PA, PA payed for his flight for a trip back from Poland but he never turned up. It was then announced he had signed for Eastbourne which Wolves were surprised at.

MJJ chose to sign for Wolves but wanted to race in EL there and then at the back end of 2011 and we couldn't give him the racing he needed so went to Peterborough.

A story was told about Peter Ljung as the replacement for Ty (after the Michelsen deal fell thru) but to protect PA i wont publish the details on here as Lakeside promotion might be offended!!

 

Doubling up is likely to continue.

 

*if no SKY then the double points is likely to revert back to normal tactical substitutes *

 

The top GP boys probably earn a million!!

jeez things must be getting desperate when wolves start rumbling on about riders they were gonna sign in 2011 , if every club was to go in to who they were gonna sign and who let them down they'd be more posts/bandwith taken up than what kks takes up

[bigcatdiary]

jeez things must be getting desperate when wolves start rumbling on about riders they were gonna sign in 2011 , if every club was to go in to who they were gonna sign and who let them down they'd be more posts/bandwith taken up than what kks takes up

I can only agree, some interesting bits of information but obviously their wasn't a lot to say as we had the accompanying bull$hyte.

[Wolfsbane]

jeez things must be getting desperate when wolves start rumbling on about riders they were gonna sign in 2011 , if every club was to go in to who they were gonna sign and who let them down they'd be more posts/bandwith taken up than what kks takes up

 

 

I can only agree, some interesting bits of information but obviously their wasn't a lot to say as we had the accompanying bull$hyte.

Got to say my first reaction to these 2 posts was something extremely rude! However having reflected they do have some merit, just not in the way the HF & BCD intended

 

Can't be doing with 'what if, could have, should haves' backward looking folks. 'We have been trying really hard for you fans, we keep firing the bullets don't we?'. Yeah, and keep missing the target.

 

CVS & Adams really need to get their heads round ways of working in the modern world. They got some awful stick on here, which we now find out was unmerited, over Michelsen. Why oh why didn't they get the info about the flight thing into the public domain at the time and saved themselves the grief? They really are their own worst enemies sometimes.

[bigcatdiary]

 

CVS & Adams really need to get their heads round ways of working in the modern world. They got some awful stick on here, which we now find out was unmerited, over Michelsen. Why oh why didn't they get the info about the flight thing into the public domain at the time and saved themselves the grief? They really are their own worst enemies sometimes.

CVS and Adams work like a lot of other members of the BSPA in that they tell you only what they want you to know.

 

Years ago they could have got away with it but its a different story now and a lot of supporters now know what's going on.

 

The whole way in which they cloud everything in secrecy needs to stop and they should do everything in an open, honest and up front way, until it does they won't move forward.

[stevebrum]

So Peter Adams let it out of the bag that they have just missed out on Jepsen Jensen in 2011 and Michelsen in 2014.

 

 

At least he never said anything about Mikkel Bech !!

Michelsen was for 2013, not next season.

 

 

 

For the guys who were at the forum, was anything said about Dudley going PL at Monmore?

Nothing was said, nor was it an appropriate place to make comment on.

 

 

 

 

jeez things must be getting desperate when wolves start rumbling on about riders they were gonna sign in 2011 , if every club was to go in to who they were gonna sign and who let them down they'd be more posts/bandwith taken up than what kks takes up

To add weight to the discussion point it was in relation to a point made that `Wolves should have gone the extra mile to sign Michelsen` and what other riders were considered to replace Ty Proctor. What followed was a lengthy piece from PA about what riders have been spoken to in recent times and also about who was nearly in place before Miskowiak was signed. These comments were generated because PA suggested that fans just think they do nothing about trying to sign riders and take the cheapest option. I don't think for one minute it was any excuses just an honest bit of information that lets US the fans know that Miskowiak wasn't the 1st or best option , as i believe many of us thought that way.

I hope your own promotion are as upfront about the lengths they go to to keep supporters up to date about what is happening behind the scenes.

 

 

I can only agree, some interesting bits of information but obviously their wasn't a lot to say as we had the accompanying bull$hyte.

Interesting comment about bull$hyte coming from a Panthers supporter.

 

 

 

 

Got to say my first reaction to these 2 posts was something extremely rude! However having reflected they do have some merit, just not in the way the HF & BCD intended

 

Can't be doing with 'what if, could have, should haves' backward looking folks. 'We have been trying really hard for you fans, we keep firing the bullets don't we?'. Yeah, and keep missing the target.

 

CVS & Adams really need to get their heads round ways of working in the modern world. They got some awful stick on here, which we now find out was unmerited, over Michelsen. Why oh why didn't they get the info about the flight thing into the public domain at the time and saved themselves the grief? They really are their own worst enemies sometimes.

As ive discussed above the comments about Michelsen and MJJ was in relation to a comment about negativity from supporters about not signing riders. As far as im concerned it was perfectly in context with the questio(s) that were asked.

But perhaps as expected some take one piece of comment in isolation and tear into it.

[SCB]

Thats nothing, BV spoke to Crump, Nicki and half the GP riders. Thats how big a club BV are, last winter they had the phone numbers of quite a few good riders. MJJ and Mikkelson are irrelevance making Wolves irrelevant compared to BV!

[magnificentseven]

Thats nothing, BV spoke to Crump, Nicki and half the GP riders. Thats how big a club BV are, last winter they had the phone numbers of quite a few good riders. MJJ and Mikkelson are irrelevance making Wolves irrelevant compared to BV!

At least Wolves spoke to riders with a realistic chance of coming to ride in Britain

Edited November 5, 2013 by Wolfie

[Wolfsbane]

.....As ive discussed above the comments about Michelsen and MJJ was in relation to a comment about negativity from supporters about not signing riders. As far as im concerned it was perfectly in context with the questio(s) that were asked.

But perhaps as expected some take one piece of comment in isolation and tear into it......

 

Steve. Not sure the 'tear into it'. was in response to myself however I would make this point. I was highlighting that CVS & Adams got hammered for allowing Michelsen to go to Eastbourne. We now know, thanks to Adams response last night, that there was more to it than we all knew at the time. The negativity from fans was allowed to fester because, like most of the BSPA, they operate an omerta like code of silence, refusing point blank to acknowledge we are no longer in the 80s as regards what supporters do and should know about the workings of their club. If only they'd been open about it at the time. Interestingly, thinking about it, the decline of British speedway has coincided, more or less, with the rise of the internet and the availability of information.

Edited November 5, 2013 by Wolfsbane

[BWitcher]

Did anyone bother to ask why Peter Adams totally mismanaged the reserves during the playoff meeting against Birmingham? Mis-management that cost the team anything from 8-16 pts?