Wolfsbane Posted July 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 ....any decisions that affect his Wolves commitments are likely to be greeted with suspicion. If he'd scored like a #1 should do when he wasn't cream crackered I'd wager that everyone would sympathise now he is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloves Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 Hopefully Woffy like the other top riders who still entertain us in the EL such as Darcy Ward and NKI don't read the comments on here from people who enjoy being critical of our league and use any excuse to have a go at them. If they need a breather due to such heavy workloads then have one but please keep riding in the EL as I love watching the best riders in the world on a regular basis. For those who don't care, don't ruin it for the rest of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 just popped on this wolves site to gauge opinion bout woffy, and what you fans think? i dont pay his wages so my views are irrelevent....... speaking generally though, do you agree these gp riders wouldnt dream of missing a gp or swc fixture? isnt always the leagues that suffer? isnt it why lge racing is on its knees? as i say, hes YOUR rider, and i personlly think hes outstanding for britain, and have said so on many occasions, but i do think, yet again, British speedway will suffer again.... 1 final question, what would your employer say if you were knackered through working elsewhere???????? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walshy1974 Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 Some of you lot are absolutely bonkers. The guy's knackered. Give him a break. You try riding a speedway bike, you'll be knackered doing 1 corner and then back straight before you think s##t here comes another corner. Yes, he's bitten off too much to chew, but don't we all learn from mistakes when we're young. He's 23 I think and tying to earn a crust just like you, me and Bob next door. He's a bloody good charity fundraiser, an idol now to a lot of kids an still a youngster himself who needs get well soon messages. Not Muppets who cry cos he's not riding for his clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 Some of you lot are absolutely bonkers. The guy's knackered. Give him a break. You try riding a speedway bike, you'll be knackered doing 1 corner and then back straight before you think s##t here comes another corner. Yes, he's bitten off too much to chew, but don't we all learn from mistakes when we're young. He's 23 I think and tying to earn a crust just like you, me and Bob next door. He's a bloody good charity fundraiser, an idol now to a lot of kids an still a youngster himself who needs get well soon messages. Not Muppets who cry cos he's not riding for his clubs. Such insight. So the message to kids then is if you are tired you don't have to go to work?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 Some of you lot are absolutely bonkers. The guy's knackered. Give him a break. You try riding a speedway bike, you'll be knackered doing 1 corner and then back straight before you think s##t here comes another corner. Yes, he's bitten off too much to chew, but don't we all learn from mistakes when we're young. He's 23 I think and tying to earn a crust just like you, me and Bob next door. He's a bloody good charity fundraiser, an idol now to a lot of kids an still a youngster himself who needs get well soon messages. Not Muppets who cry cos he's not riding for his clubs. At last after several pages of decent debate along comes have you ridden a speedway bike . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 At last after several pages of decent debate along comes have you ridden a speedway bike . And just to quantify - YES i have ridden a Speedway bike, have ridden in amateur meetings and own my own Speedway bike. That must make my opinion even more valid. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Nick Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 There's a big difference between being tired (as some people have put it ) and exhaustion. After reading the negative comments on here, I wouldn't blame him for giving the Elite League a miss next year. Which would be a shame because IMO he'll be World Champion again this year. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtommo Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 I said a few months ago that he was on his yevo account taking about riding in too many countries and him being knackered then he also said he needs to ride against better riders and teams which he said Poland and Sweden have, if you look how long it took to sign for wolves this year he was only 50/50 and felt he had to do it for british speedway so I stick by what I said then I don't think he will be back for wolves next season which will be a shame . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 Woffinden tired? My dad works 9-8 everyday of the week; man up you playboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walshy1974 Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 Such insight. So the message to kids then is if you are tired you don't have to go to work?? Silly remark. Do you work, do overtime? You need the cash so do more than your body can handle? I'd guess you probably do and have done. Come the weekend you put your feet up and rest. If you didn't, then you'd burn out like Tai has. You then take a holiday. Tai burns out an people criticise him as he can't take a holiday like you, me an good old Joe public. If my staff burnt out, I'd eventually burn out too. Hard work is just that, bloody hard work and that's what he does nearly everyday for 7/8 months. Another way to look at it, if Tai burns out and crashes whilst riding and hurts himself or another rider. Who would be negligent? The club, rider or both? I know if I made someone do something they felt that they couldn't carry out, they then hurt someone in the process of doing what I requested then my backside would be very sore. You think any of his clubs are saying poor Tai, you're only tired. Chop chop get back to work? No, they're supporting him like everyone should. And just to quantify - YES i have ridden a Speedway bike, have ridden in amateur meetings and own my own Speedway bike. That must make my opinion even more valid. So, you know full well it drains you and I mean really drains you. We then go home, not straight off to some far flung place in Poland or Sweden. Woffinden tired? My dad works 9-8 everyday of the week; man up you playboy What 7 days a week? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfsbane Posted July 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 Silly remark. Do you work, do overtime? You need the cash so do more than your body can handle? I'd guess you probably do and have done. Come the weekend you put your feet up and rest. If you didn't, then you'd burn out like Tai has. You then take a holiday. Tai burns out an people criticise him as he can't take a holiday like you, me an good old Joe public. If my staff burnt out, I'd eventually burn out too. Hard work is just that, bloody hard work and that's what he does nearly everyday for 7/8 months. Another way to look at it, if Tai burns out and crashes whilst riding and hurts himself or another rider. Who would be negligent? The club, rider or both? I know if I made someone do something they felt that they couldn't carry out, they then hurt someone in the process of doing what I requested then my backside would be very sore. You think any of his clubs are saying poor Tai, you're only tired. Chop chop get back to work? No, they're supporting him like everyone should. So, you know full well it drains you and I mean really drains you. We then go home, not straight off to some far flung place in Poland or Sweden. What 7 days a week? You seem to be keen to defend Woffinden. 9.20---->7.64. Defend that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 Such insight. So the message to kids then is if you are tired you don't have to go to work?? He isn't 'tired'. If any one of us was in the condition he was in on Monday night we wouldn't be at work. Simples. You seem to be keen to defend Woffinden. 9.20---->7.64. Defend that. That's a completely different argument to the current situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 (edited) He isn't 'tired'. If any one of us was in the condition he was in on Monday night we wouldn't be at work. Simples. That's a completely different argument to the current situation. But we would go in on the Tuesday but not the Wednesday .Your quite right we were in that condition we would not be at work the trouble was thou 24 hours later he was Edited July 16, 2014 by orion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walshy1974 Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 You seem to be keen to defend Woffinden. 9.20---->7.64. Defend that. That's his average I presume? Not great for his standard which I'm sure he'd be the 1st to admit. Listen, anybody who works their ass off and on top of that does charity work like he does. Then yes, I'd say the guy deserves a pat on the back and a rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfsbane Posted July 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 He isn't 'tired'. If any one of us was in the condition he was in on Monday night we wouldn't be at work. Simples. That's a completely different argument to the current situation. If you seriously think that the 2 situations aren't in some way linked I'm astonished, I really am. That's his average I presume? Not great for his standard which I'm sure he'd be the 1st to admit. Listen, anybody who works their ass off and on top of that does charity work like he does. Then yes, I'd say the guy deserves a pat on the back and a rest. You presume correct. Not great??!! It's a damn disgrace. A pat on the back, really?? All I can say is you aren't a Wolves fan so may not be best placed to comment. As for the charity work, very laudable and he's to be congratulated on it but it has nothing to do with his current situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 Silly remark. Do you work, do overtime? You need the cash so do more than your body can handle? I'd guess you probably do and have done. Come the weekend you put your feet up and rest. If you didn't, then you'd burn out like Tai has. You then take a holiday. Tai burns out an people criticise him as he can't take a holiday like you, me an good old Joe public. If my staff burnt out, I'd eventually burn out too. Hard work is just that, bloody hard work and that's what he does nearly everyday for 7/8 months. Another way to look at it, if Tai burns out and crashes whilst riding and hurts himself or another rider. Who would be negligent? The club, rider or both? I know if I made someone do something they felt that they couldn't carry out, they then hurt someone in the process of doing what I requested then my backside would be very sore. You think any of his clubs are saying poor Tai, you're only tired. Chop chop get back to work? No, they're supporting him like everyone should. So, you know full well it drains you and I mean really drains you. We then go home, not straight off to some far flung place in Poland or Sweden. You make huge general sweeping statements about my week or what i do as a defense. Nobody, certainly not me is saying that Tai isn't generally tired and worn out. Remember its a job that ALL professional riders choose. A job they do flat out March to October and then have 5 months off! FWIW i race (speedway/cycle speedway) every weekend so am always knackered. But that is also my choice. However i haven't chosen a career that allows me to have 5 months off of racing a year. That would be the dream! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 But we would go in on the Tuesday but not the Wednesday .Your quite right we were in that condition we would not be at work the trouble was thou 24 hours later he was No we wouldn't. We'd be off for the week. Woffinden kept his commitments to his 3 teams and fulfilled his next fixture for each of them. Sweden would have been annoyed had he rode Sunday/Monday and not Tuesday. As it was he did the one meeting for each team. Perfectly fair. If you seriously think that the 2 situations aren't in some way linked I'm astonished, I really am. You presume correct. Not great??!! It's a damn disgrace. A pat on the back, really?? All I can say is you aren't a Wolves fan so may not be best placed to comment. As for the charity work, very laudable and he's to be congratulated on it but it has nothing to do with his current situation. How are they linked? Early in the year the issues were mechanical in this country. I was quite vocal in saying that the situation wasn't acceptable. He appeared to have for the most part got that sorted, a little too late perhaps for our liking. This situation is completely different. I saw him on Monday night, he looked terrible. A complete break for the week is the right thing instead of continuing to push it and making the matter worse. Where things go from here is open to conjecture. It should be remembered that he didn't ride in Sweden last year, I always thought he'd find it tougher when adding that to his schedule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clambo71 Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 There's a big difference between being tired (as some people have put it ) and exhaustion. After reading the negative comments on here, I wouldn't blame him for giving the Elite League a miss next year. Which would be a shame because IMO he'll be World Champion again this year. No it wont be a shame because having a World champion in your team means nothing if he doesn't perform and your team suffers. I notice nearly all the woffinden defenders are not Wolves fans ,as he hasn't wrecked your teams play-off chances.He chose where he wanted to ride but my priorities are Wolves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 (edited) No we wouldn't. We'd be off for the week. Woffinden kept his commitments to his 3 teams and fulfilled his next fixture for each of them. Sweden would have been annoyed had he rode Sunday/Monday and not Tuesday. As it was he did the one meeting for each team. Perfectly fair. If your sick your sick I can't how he scored ten points if you are as bad you say he was . Somehow in his sickness the team he's let down is Wolves just like the rest of the season . No point in dressing it Wolves come's last to Tai and his sickness only effects him when he's in the uk Edited July 16, 2014 by orion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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