Wolverhampton 2014

[PHILIPRISING]

I SUPPOSE if you went on their respective GP careers it would have to be Jonsson over Lindgren

[david2905]

I dont know that much so i dont know how realistic this is but how about:

 

1. Tai Woffinden 9.20

2. Jacob Thorsell 4.61

3. Peter Karlsson 8.09

4. Tyron Proctor 5.78

5. Matej Zagar 8.78

6. Kenneth Hansen 3.00

7. Pontus Aspegren 3.00

 

Probably really unrealistic but there you go.

 

Christ, how top heavy can you get

[BWitcher]

 

 

Christ, how top heavy can you get

 

Quite a bit more as that isn't a particularly top heavy side, its got strength in depth... not that it would fit under any pts limit for next season!

[david2905]

May be interesting to see if Wolves and Poole (or any other track) would be allowed to share the #1 race jacket which has been looked at before. Wolves can then use Woffinden or Lindgren while Poole use Ward or Holder. Swindon can use Andersen or Kildemand etc

 

Can't see that, if the Points limit does go down and another 2 clubs join the EL, they will need 3/4 top class rider to be able to compete, there's only so many decent riders you can pack the lower order with.

 

Quite a bit more as that isn't a particularly top heavy side, its got strength in depth... not that it would fit under any pts limit for next season!

 

If the point limit is 38 or less, I reckon it would be madness to have more than 2 riders over 8.00 or more than one over 9.00, too much of a gamble that there will be a couple riders on falsely low averages to avoid the lower order being spanked out of sight, it does happen, but your in trouble if it doesn't, a safer option of someone on a 6.00 would be better IMO.

 

I can see Woffy at Wolves next season, be madness not to have the reigning british world champion from a commercial and publicity point of view mind, can't see the Lindgrens or PK however, Bomber woulden't be a bad shout considering how he rides Monmore.

[BluPanther]

Can't see that, if the Points limit does go down and another 2 clubs join the EL, they will need 3/4 top class rider to be able to compete, there's only so many decent riders you can pack the lower order with.

 

 

 

If the point limit is 38 or less, I reckon it would be madness to have more than 2 riders over 8.00 or more than one over 9.00, too much of a gamble that there will be a couple riders on falsely low averages to avoid the lower order being spanked out of sight, it does happen, but your in trouble if it doesn't, a safer option of someone on a 6.00 would be better IMO.

 

I can see Woffy at Wolves next season, be madness not to have the reigning british world champion from a commercial and publicity point of view mind, can't see the Lindgrens or PK however, Bomber woulden't be a bad shout considering how he rides Monmore.

Agree with most of that, however Bomber will be at Boro next year..

[BWitcher]

 

 

Can't see that, if the Points limit does go down and another 2 clubs join the EL, they will need 3/4 top class rider to be able to compete, there's only so many decent riders you can pack the lower order with.

 

 

 

If the point limit is 38 or less, I reckon it would be madness to have more than 2 riders over 8.00 or more than one over 9.00, too much of a gamble that there will be a couple riders on falsely low averages to avoid the lower order being spanked out of sight, it does happen, but your in trouble if it doesn't, a safer option of someone on a 6.00 would be better IMO.

 

I can see Woffy at Wolves next season, be madness not to have the reigning british world champion from a commercial and publicity point of view mind, can't see the Lindgrens or PK however, Bomber woulden't be a bad shout considering how he rides Monmore.

 

I agree, but that side wasn't a 38pts limit side so therefore not top heavy.

 

In a 38pt limit Wolves should be looking a top 3 along the lines of Woffinden, Skornicki, Proctor.

[stevebrum]

Christ, how top heavy can you get

 

He has posted teams on most threads and all of them are top heavy......................... bit of a theme going on.

 

 

Agree with most of that, however Bomber will be at Boro next year..

 

Wasn't he meant to be last season?

[BluPanther]

He has posted teams on most threads and all of them are top heavy......................... bit of a theme going on.

 

 

 

 

Wasn't he meant to be last season?

Yes, but the silly 2/20 ruling put paid to that because Sundstrom was signed before the ruling was brought in...

[stevebrum]

Yes, but the silly 2/20 ruling put paid to that because Sundstrom was signed before the ruling was brought in...

 

Always best to wait before the rules then!

[BluPanther]

Always best to wait before the rules then!

Absolutely You never know what strange rulings will come out of that room....

[magnificentseven]

I dont know that much so i dont know how realistic this is but how about:

 

1. Tai Woffinden 9.20

2. Jacob Thorsell 4.61

3. Peter Karlsson 8.09

4. Tyron Proctor 5.78

5. Matej Zagar 8.78

6. Kenneth Hansen 3.00

7. Pontus Aspegren 3.00

 

Probably really unrealistic but there you go.

 

Let's hope its unrealistic as I wouldn't entertain either Zagar or Hansen in any Wolves team.

 

Rumours are flying around about a much lower points limit.

 

As well as Skornicki and Proctor have performed this year there have to be doubts about including them.

 

Proctor is coming back from a very serious injury and perhaps a full season at PL - or equivalent level would be the best for him next year.

 

Skornicki struggled against the Brummies in the play offs - as most Wolves did - and the Brummies are basically a team of 6 and 7 point riders which is what he would be facing next year. As popular as he is I think it is time to bring down the curtain on his Wolves career on a high note.

 

Wolfie

[Tommy Sweetman]

Let's hope its unrealistic as I wouldn't entertain either Zagar or Hansen in any Wolves team.

 

Rumours are flying around about a much lower points limit.

 

As well as Skornicki and Proctor have performed this year there have to be doubts about including them.

 

Proctor is coming back from a very serious injury and perhaps a full season at PL - or equivalent level would be the best for him next year.

 

Skornicki struggled against the Brummies in the play offs - as most Wolves did - and the Brummies are basically a team of 6 and 7 point riders which is what he would be facing next year. As popular as he is I think it is time to bring down the curtain on his Wolves career on a high note.

 

Wolfie

Gotta agree with all that Wolfie,and because you go to the away matches as well,you see them perform on different tracks,so trust youre opinion.

 

Must say, i think Ricky Wells was the biggest dissapointment(even though his average doesnt say so).I had him down to make the big breakthrough this season,becoming the third heat-leader.He didnt,and there has to be doubts now he ever will.

[INCOGNITO]

Let's hope its unrealistic as I wouldn't entertain either Zagar or Hansen in any Wolves team.

 

Rumours are flying around about a much lower points limit.

 

As well as Skornicki and Proctor have performed this year there have to be doubts about including them.

 

Proctor is coming back from a very serious injury and perhaps a full season at PL - or equivalent level would be the best for him next year.

 

Skornicki struggled against the Brummies in the play offs - as most Wolves did - and the Brummies are basically a team of 6 and 7 point riders which is what he would be facing next year. As popular as he is I think it is time to bring down the curtain on his Wolves career on a high note.

 

Wolfie

 

 

Ty Proctor was possibly the best rider Wolverhampton had at one stage last season and while I understand that he is coming back from a bad injury, he more than deserves to another year which he will get and if the limit is lower he could be an ideal signing as he could average over seven.

 

As for Adam, he was poor early on but he did a good job for the team and could also be a steady influence next season but I agree there are better riders on lower averages.

 

Proctor and Thorssell are definitely in next season and the same with Tai and Ricky. It's just then to see what's left

[fish keeper]

I think Wells will come good next season as did Proctor this until he got injured.

[BWitcher]

 

Skornicki struggled against the Brummies in the play offs - as most Wolves did - and the Brummies are basically a team of 6 and 7 point riders which is what he would be facing next year. As popular as he is I think it is time to bring down the curtain on his Wolves career on a high note.

 

Wolfie

 

Clearly you were at a different meeting to the rest of us.

 

'Most' of the Wolves team didn't struggle. 'Most' of them did their jobs. We got 7pts from the No1 position over 2 matches. That is all there is too it. A normal return from that position, Wolves would have won with some ease.

 

You've been preaching for years to 'bring down the curtain' on Adam, every year he comes back and does his job.

Edited October 17, 2013 by BWitcher

[stevebrum]

Clearly you were at a different meeting to the rest of us.

 

Adam, more than most can hold his head high during the play offs.

If we are building a team of solidity (based around the World Champ) then Adam can do a decent job still.

[magnificentseven]

Clearly you were at a different meeting to the rest of us.

 

I wouldn't expect anything less of a defence from you having been one of Adam's sponsors. Clearly you weren't standing with the large group of Wolves fans at Birmingham for the second leg if you feel happy to defend the team's performance. We had a lack of heat winners against a team of second strings, against a team that will be a similar standard to the teams in 2014 if reports are to be believed. Go with the same team next year and the results are likely to be the same. Same old same old leads to apathy and lack of enthusiasm which I think the club has slipped into. Time for a breath of fresh air and new faces to freshen the place up. Edited October 18, 2013 by Wolfie

[stevebrum]

. Go with the same team next year and the results are likely to be the same. Same old same old leads to apathy and lack of enthusiasm which I think the club has slipped into. Time for a breath of fresh air and new faces to freshen the place up.

 

That`s a little unfair Wolfie. The team we started with were on fire and without injuries (like Brum) could have easily been leaders all through-out the season.Whether they would have been in form come play off time is a very separate discussion that has no real answer. The apathy around our season set in once it was clear that Ty was going to be long term out and the replacement then needed to be a good one if we were to maintain that level of performance.

Obviously we went for the cheap and worst possible (i maintained that before he signed) so we then limped into the play offs with very little worry on concern of missing. So from the presentation nite perspective it was `job done`.

I agree each season we need a little freshening - however not having Tai, Ty and Jacob would be plain nonsense.

[magnificentseven]

That`s a little unfair Wolfie. The team we started with were on fire and without injuries (like Brum) could have easily been leaders all through-out the season.Whether they would have been in form come play off time is a very separate discussion that has no real answer. The apathy around our season set in once it was clear that Ty was going to be long term out and the replacement then needed to be a good one if we were to maintain that level of performance.

Obviously we went for the cheap and worst possible (i maintained that before he signed) so we then limped into the play offs with very little worry on concern of missing. So from the presentation nite perspective it was `job done`.

I agree each season we need a little freshening - however not having Tai, Ty and Jacob would be plain nonsense.

 

Tai and Jacob would be the first two names on my teamsheet - but a lot will depend on the league set up and whether Tai fits in to that - some rumours I have heard imply that he wouldn't which would be a crazy situation.

 

Ty undoubtedly came good and would deserve another chance but he is coming back from a major injury and that would my only concern - perhaps a year of recovery on loan at the lower level would be the best route for him.

 

After that I think all of the places would be up for consideration as I don't think Freddie will be back with us by his choice.

 

Wolfie

Edited October 20, 2013 by Wolfie

[stevebrum]

Tai and Jacob would be the first two names on my teamsheet - but a lot will depend on the league set up and whether Tai fits in to that - some rumours I have heard imply that he wouldn't which would be a crazy situation.

 

Ty undoubtedly came good and would deserve another chance but he is coming back from a major injury and that would my only concern - perhaps a year of recovery on loan at the lower level would be the best route for him.

 

After that I think all of the places would be up for consideration as I don't think Freddie will be back with us by his choice.

 

Wolfie

 

Any level that doesnt include Tai would just be a glorified PL and even more fans down the pan.

You are right, if the EL does not take advantage of having the British World Champion then they seriously will never get the EL right and may as well bin it.