Lioness Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 Of course he's a back stabber just because someone craps on you does not mean you do the same to them and ever more so when someone has treated you as one of the family like Rosco has . As has been pointed out a Pl place will no doubt come up in or 3 weeks of the season so need to panic . He agree a deal with Swindon and the team was build around that so he should stick to it . So you expect a young lad in a job that is high risk and only lasts for a short time to loose out financially by sitting on the sidelines because he has been 'crapped' on through no fault of his own in the 'hope' that someone else gets hurt or dropped a week or two into the season so he can start earning a living again? Without all the sponsorship opportunities as well of course. Thats not realistic. Riders have to look after no 1 - especially as the clubs and promoters dont seem to be too keen to look out for them I can fully understand why Swindon fans may have the initial knee jerk reaction but ask yourself..... if he was with Poole, Leicester, Birmingham, Wolves etc etc, would you still be saying the same or looking at teh wider picture? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 (edited) They would have had other options, but once riders are signed then you are going with an option and Swindon went on the complete their team. So what happens now? Will Swindon drop Gustafsson or Klindt to reconfigure the side if Morris? As far as I can see, Morris was the key rider next season. A possible 8 pointer. If he goes then Swindon's hopes are up the old Swanee. Pawlicki Dudek ? no chance i suppose with either even then you would have to revamp the team letting people down something now some fans are saying Morris Is doing. Edited January 7, 2014 by sidney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 (edited) So you expect a young lad in a job that is high risk and only lasts for a short time to loose out financially by sitting on the sidelines because he has been 'crapped' on through no fault of his own in the 'hope' that someone else gets hurt or dropped a week or two into the season so he can start earning a living again? Without all the sponsorship opportunities as well of course. Thats not realistic. Riders have to look after no 1 - especially as the clubs and promoters dont seem to be too keen to look out for them I Expect people to do the decent thing when someone has stood by them in a court case and treated them like a member of there family while living in there house .. Morris won't be the only rider who is only riding one league this year and as we all know it's matter of weeks before he gets a gig in the pl and he's got his whole life to earn a packet from speedway with his talent . As I said most time I might agree with you but not with the bond so strong between Rosco and Morris . it's a shocking thing to do . Edited January 7, 2014 by orion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
500cc Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 Sorry - what have Swindon done wrong thus far in this situation? If someone has a contract then they can be "dumped" as you put it - if they don't perform. I don't agree with "dumping" someone because there is a perceived better option available. It happens but doesn't mean it's right! I stand by my original comment - ban him! You want Morris banned for pulling out (if he does) of a contract with Swindon. May I ask whether you believe Somerset should face a similar penalty for pulling out of a contract with Morris? Remember Morris probably agreed to these contracts in tandem. He potentially loses half his income. Swindon on the other other hand will be recompensed for their loss via a loan or purchase. Somerset no doubt save money as I expect Aspergen will earn less than Morris. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lioness Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 I genuinely have sympathy for Swindon over this but the deserved anger over what has happened is being directed in the wrong direction. Nick is the only one who is MORE of a victim than Swindon. I doubt if there is a person on here who could hand on heart say that they would put themselves in financial difficulties in a situation like this just because others have made a mistake (and Swindon ARE part of the 'others', all clubs have at least a small part to play in the farcical Kurtz average situation) in the hope some premier league rider gets shafted or hurt a week or two into the season. And as was conveniently overlooked there is also the sponsorship issue - not so easy to compete on that front if you dont have a starting place or are riding far fewer meetings than most Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
500cc Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 as we all know it's matter of weeks before he gets a gig in the pl and he's got his whole life to earn a packet from speedway with his talent . Yeah PL teams will be falling all over him when they spot the fixture clashes that will mean Swindon get first dibs. Signing now means teams can organise their fixtures to minimise the potential clashes. Perhaps if he stays at Swindon the supporters can do a whip round for every PL meeting (and earnings) he loses by waiting for a spot and then having a greater number of clashes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 Yeah PL teams will be falling all over him when they spot the fixture clashes that will mean Swindon get first dibs. Signing now means teams can organise their fixtures to minimise the potential clashes. Perhaps if he stays at Swindon the supporters can do a whip round for every PL meeting (and earnings) he loses by waiting for a spot and then having a greater number of clashes. Unless it was a Thursday night club I doubt there would be many anyhow and even then you can get rr ..hardly a big deal ... As I said Morris would get a gig within 6 weeks . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 So thats 6 weeks loss of earning (not gurenteed) will Swindon make up the shortfall 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 So thats 6 weeks loss of earning (not gurenteed) will Swindon make up the shortfall Why should they ? Morris agree to ride for them and he should stick to that ....Morris has enough talent to make a packet out of speedway so it's hardly going to break him and in my eyes he should be trying to get a job in Sweden and Poland rather than being allowed to double up in the pl . He's a lucky boy even to be allowed to do that in the first place . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 How do you know it wont break him? Your no more privvy to his financial state than anyone else. I agree that Swindon have been done here but IMO its not Morris to blame. He has done what anyone would do and thats made sure he will be financially sound its what anyone would of done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 If young Nick Morris wants to do the right thing, he will honour his verbal/written contract with Swindon, and wait for a Premier gig to fall into his lap.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whowasthatberntpersson Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 As I have said before, if Nick has signed a contract for Swindon and doesn't ride for Swindon but another team at EL level - he should get a ban as he is effectively withholding services. I appreciate that Somerset did the dirty on him but two wrongs don't make a right! I have nothing against him maximising his earning potential but to renege on a deal is so unprofessional and unless it is dealt with harshly then it will open the floodgates. He'll need to earn more now anyway to cover the accommodation that he now has to look for! Firstly, Nick has not signed a 2014 contract with Swindon, but that is irrelevant really, Nick has no gripes with Swindon or the Rossiter's, who he remains very close to. The bottom line is he needs to ride in both leagues to earn sufficient money and have the required track time. All this tripe about loyalty really annoys me....and i'm sure it annoys Ash Birks who was dropped at the drop of a hat. It works both ways. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedy bill Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 Go get Josh Auty ,a good young English lad and a real racer.He is looking for a Elite league place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 Firstly, Nick has not signed a 2014 contract with Swindon, but that is irrelevant really, Nick has no gripes with Swindon or the Rossiter's, who he remains very close to. The bottom line is he needs to ride in both leagues to earn sufficient money and have the required track time. All this tripe about loyalty really annoys me....and i'm sure it annoys Ash Birks who was dropped at the drop of a hat. It works both ways.[/quotte Your sound more like Rosco with every post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 How do you know it wont break him? Your no more privvy to his financial state than anyone else. I agree that Swindon have been done here but IMO its not Morris to blame. He has done what anyone would do and thats made sure he will be financially sound its what anyone would of done Not what anyone would do ..some people don't put money above everything . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whowasthatberntpersson Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 Not what anyone would do ..some people don't put money above everything .I think when it comes to work the majority do. I don't know one person who would take a 50% wage cut, and with loss of a PL sign on fee plus wages it wouldn't be far off that for Nick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 Sorry - what have Swindon done wrong thus far in this situation? If someone has a contract then they can be "dumped" as you put it - if they don't perform. I don't agree with "dumping" someone because there is a perceived better option available. It happens but doesn't mean it's right! I stand by my original comment - ban him! DId Ash Birks get skanked? no difference i am afraid.Why should they ? Morris agree to ride for them and he should stick to that ....Morris has enough talent to make a packet out of speedway so it's hardly going to break him and in my eyes he should be trying to get a job in Sweden and Poland rather than being allowed to double up in the pl . He's a lucky boy even to be allowed to do that in the first place . Your in cloud cookoo land is Cook doubling up? not lack of ambition reality pay the bills it is not easy to get places in Sweden and Poland maybe it is in your world.! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remembertheracers Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 I am sure Morris would have had a gig in the PL by the end of March. However the EL expected to have first rights over the PL, taking out one of their top stars in any fixture clash. A shame Rosco put lodger Morris above Doyle methinks, where the same would apply. For weeks it has been obvious it could only be Leicester and Sheffield for the kid. So I guess its recall Mads and please come back Ashley Birks, who is a show in at Belle Vue And is Josh Bates the next through the Blunsdon revolving door? If it is Ritchings or Reade should come in, but please god not Lee Smart. Let Morris and the puppet string pullers sod off and go without him. Its time Swindon Speedway stood up for their fans p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 The little blighter's put in a transfer request. Hope Sheffield have got plenty of money. http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/10919965.Morris_hands_in_a_transfer_request_at_Swindon_Robins/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TesarRacing Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 ...........so there is no rift or falling out! Hmmm! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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