Starman2006 Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 You don't seem convinced Starman? Yeah the amounts right Sidney!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 (edited) The other point is that if the first meeting hadn't been called off for a burst pipe then this meeting would have been ran earlier in the season. Edited October 9, 2013 by foreverblue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherborne Green Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 Gavan. I know you have a very low opinion of the Poole owner and management. I have no intention of attacking your thoughts nor defending Poole. Â With regards to speedway I believe that money is a great problem. We all feel the pinch in these these economic times and I believe the EL is feeling it more than either other of the leagues. I do feel Poole are probably better off than most other teams and therefore can afford some riders other teams can not. Â With regard to the meeting at BV I agree that, in my view, the match would have better been postpond or called off part way through. However, the cost to BV would have very heavy as they would have had the vast majority of that. Would they have been able to afford that as well as the cost of running the meeting again? Â As I said I do not want to get involved in the argument/discussion about this but just wanted to put forward some thoughts I had. Â Personally, I find PL better racing these days but you do miss out seeing the top riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 The other point is that if the first meeting hadn't been called off for a burst pipe then this meeting would have been ran earlier in the season. erm no it wasnt!!  as a poole fan you should have realised that the ' burst pipe' was April and the meeting was run end of June  the fixture was postponed (genuine this time) at the end of july. and the 'heat 10' match was the re run of that.  Gavan. I know you have a very low opinion of the Poole owner and management. I have no intention of attacking your thoughts nor defending Poole.  With regards to speedway I believe that money is a great problem. We all feel the pinch in these these economic times and I believe the EL is feeling it more than either other of the leagues. I do feel Poole are probably better off than most other teams and therefore can afford some riders other teams can not.  With regard to the meeting at BV I agree that, in my view, the match would have better been postpond or called off part way through. However, the cost to BV would have very heavy as they would have had the vast majority of that. Would they have been able to afford that as well as the cost of running the meeting again?  As I said I do not want to get involved in the argument/discussion about this but just wanted to put forward some thoughts I had.  Personally, I find PL better racing these days but you do miss out seeing the top riders. as stated countless times Matt Ford is brilliant for Poole just not for speedway My thoughts on Middlo have gone downhill after his childish remarks on twitter and the team gb fiasco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 Â Â HAVE posted here before that I wasn't there and didn't even see it on television so cannot really comment ... other than to say does anyone seriously doubt that had the meeting continued Poole would have won by more than seven anyway? Â Â Utterly irrelevant. It didn't continue, it was conveniently halted. Perhaps we should halt football matches after an hour when the favoured team is 2-0 up? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 erm no it wasnt!!  as a poole fan you should have realised that the ' burst pipe' was April and the meeting was run end of June  the fixture was postponed (genuine this time) at the end of july. and the 'heat 10' match was the re run of that.   as stated countless times Matt Ford is brilliant for Poole just not for speedway My thoughts on Middlo have gone downhill after his childish remarks on twitter and the team gb fiasco HIS childish remarks!!! People have to remember, a lot of people read Twitter!!! Jealousy is a dangerous thing.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 erm no it wasnt!!  as a poole fan you should have realised that the ' burst pipe' was April and the meeting was run end of June  the fixture was postponed (genuine this time) at the end of july. and the 'heat 10' match was the re run of that.   as stated countless times Matt Ford is brilliant for Poole just not for speedway My thoughts on Middlo have gone downhill after his childish remarks on twitter and the team gb fiasco But the june meeting was originally the B meeting, so if the burst pipe didn't happen then the july meeting wouldn't have been necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyfan Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 the type of crash is irrelevent is it not. each club has its idiots who cheer when a rider falls off. ban them from the stadium then. as for managers punching the air i very much doubt that! most managers are ex riders and they know the serious of it all. Cant imagine Havelock or Louis or Rosco cheering a rider falling off as all these guys have had bad crashes over the years. Â I saw Paul Muchene slid off and get killed at Hackney. Per Jonsson if i remember correctly was a fairly minor accident and he ended up in a wheelchair When Havvy broke his back he slid into the fence. Â poole fans are no worse then any other club. the fact is it is wrong Swindon fans used to be renowned for cheering if a rider fell off...the worse the crash the louder they would cheer....A classic example was many years ago, I was at Swindon watching them ride against Coventry and Rick Miller crashed hard into the first bend fence (no air fences in those days).The Swindon fans cheered very loudly and were still cheering loudly while he was being attended to by the St Johns people.......Hopefully they aren't like that anymore, but they used to be awful if an opposition rider crashed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 HIS childish remarks!!! People have to remember, a lot of people read Twitter!!! Jealousy is a dangerous thing.. I'm sure Middlo just likes winding non-poole fans up on there. Is funny though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 Â Â The point was that if the meeting hadn't started, which it shouldn't have) then Poole wouldn't have got any points because it wouldn't have been staged before cut off. It has happened before. Â Or more precisely Oldace, it may well still have been staged before cutoff but it would have meant Poole racing the full strength Belle Vue team which they absolutely wished to avoid, thus robbing the public and thus invalidating Fords excuse for postponing the Lakeside meeting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 We all know that if the BV meeting had been close after heat 10, the moisture would not have come out of the track, and Poole would have been insisting the meeting continue. ANY journo or TV presenter would have been asking the right questions after it was called off, instead of the predictable 'cheese' we are forced to put up with, from people with no backbone... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 Â Swindon fans used to be renowned for cheering if a rider fell off...the worse the crash the louder they would cheer....A classic example was many years ago, I was at Swindon watching them ride against Coventry and Rick Miller crashed hard into the first bend fence (no air fences in those days).The Swindon fans cheered very loudly and were still cheering loudly while he was being attended to by the St Johns people.......Hopefully they aren't like that anymore, but they used to be awful if an opposition rider crashed. Â I keep seeing stories like this.. funnily enough always involving a fan of one team attacking fans of another. Â I have never, ever in hundreds (maybe thousands) of speedway meetings attended heard fans 'continuing to cheer' when a rider is being attended to by paramedics. Â For starters a cheer is a short thing. Its an outburst at a moment of joy a "Yay" so to speak.. Even in football it dies down after a few seconds. You're expecting me to believe this 'cheer' was still going on when the rider was being treated? Â I suspect its just another exaggerated story in an attempt to make a point. Â You'll sometimes get the odd nutter who continues to shout some abuse if the said rider has done something unpopular on the night but that's a different thing entirely to cheering when a rider initially falls. Â We all know that if the BV meeting had been close after heat 10, the moisture would not have come out of the track, and Poole would have been insisting the meeting continue. ANY journo or TV presenter would have been asking the right questions after it was called off, instead of the predictable 'cheese' we are forced to put up with, from people with no backbone... Â Correct. Â What is staggering is the Star were quite happy to print accusations of cheating earlier in the season made by Barry Briggs sat on his armchair at home. Â We're still waiting for the promised follow up on that. Â Yet here, with the blatant fixing of the result that has taken place, they say nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 The funny thing is we didn't need all the 4 points on offer, 3 would have been plenty enough, the chances of Lakeside getting anything at Swindon was very remote, added to the fact that if we didn't have the burst pipe this meeting would have been in june. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 Or more precisely Oldace, it may well still have been staged before cutoff but it would have meant Poole racing the full strength Belle Vue team which they absolutely wished to avoid, thus robbing the public and thus invalidating Fords excuse for postponing the Lakeside meeting. spot on. Poole didnt want to face Belle Vue with Cook in there team. Â Lets be honest Darcy Ward is probably the biggest draw, along with Tai, in the league. That combined with Hancock returning meant there was no way Sky was going to have the play offs without Poole. Â The whole thing stunk but you are not going to get that into their heads down Dorset way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 I'm sure Middlo just likes winding non-poole fans up on there. Is funny though! Â I`ve read some of them but if you think getting into spates with people and telling them that their support isnt required is `funny` then that says a lot. He certainly isn't professional but then he does have a habit of saying the wrong thing anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 People react when they are being abused yesterday he was being called the most offensive swear word, I think he keeps pretty cool considrring, ok he makes mistakes but he wouldnt be human if he didnt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YerRopes Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 I'm sure Middlo just likes winding non-poole fans up on there. Is funny though! Â Thought him rude, obnoxious and puerile... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 Why ex rider said that the track was ok before heat 10 ? the bottom line is it was never in any fit state at any stage . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyE Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 Why ex rider said that the track was ok before heat 10 ? the bottom line is it was never in any fit state at any stage . Â I believe the word used was 'rideable' which is a far cry from 'raceable'. How many people would willing part with their hard earned cash to watch four blokes 'ride' round for four laps? The sport is called Speedway Racing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 Â Â I believe the word used was 'rideable' which is a far cry from 'raceable'. How many people would willing part with their hard earned cash to watch four blokes 'ride' round for four laps? The sport is called Speedway Racing. Indeed ...with that in mind I am not sure how another match can be called off now ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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