Phil Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 In this week's Speedway Star - the race card is being replaced by a newly designed programme. oops...... http://www.sheffieldspeedway.co/ticketoffice 2014 ADMISSION PRICES[/size] (STILL FROZEN AT 2012 PRICES) Adults (aged 16 and over): £15.00 Concessions (over 65s): £11.00 with ID Juniors (aged 13-16): £5.00 with ID Children (aged 12 and under): FREE All admission includes FREE racecard 2014 SEASON TICKET PRICES[/size] Adults (age 16 and above): £300.00 Concession (over 65s)*: £235.00 *Please enclose date of birth proof with payment. Season tickets includes FREE racecard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king junior Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 oops...... Be interesting to see what they do about that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cue Ball Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 I hope you aren't expecting a full programme for free... More than happy with the free one personally. Be interesting to see what they do about that! If they do decide to charge for it, they will probably be stuffed on any season tickets sold so far, but then all they have to is change the website. It's an invitation to treat and so can be withdrawn or amended or they can even choose just not to accept your offer of £15 for entrance and a program at the door. Not a lot any of us could do about it except rely on the promotions good nature to honour what the website states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king junior Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 More than happy with the free one personally. If they do decide to charge for it, they will probably be stuffed on any season tickets sold so far, but then all they have to is change the website. It's an invitation to treat and so can be withdrawn or amended or they can even choose just not to accept your offer of £15 for entrance and a program at the door. Not a lot any of us could do about it except rely on the promotions good nature to honour what the website states. Suppose they could do both? Just offer a cheaper version of the race card and then offer all the writing and guff in the programme. Suppose we'll see though, personally I'd like a programme, as long as its decent quality and has a lot to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friddy75 Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 (edited) Just out of interest what are people expecting from a program? If you take away everything that was on the race card so, scorecard, previous meeting roundup, that nights round up. Fixtures, second half scorecard, news of any events and advertisements. What else are you looking for? Allowing that the speedway star covers all national and international speedway and their are numerous websites covering speedway. Are you just looking for a program that fits in your pocket? Edited February 20, 2014 by Friddy75 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcb7 Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 If it's going to be a programme please be reasonable....£15 is, in my opinion is fair for admission,but when you are bringing your 17 year old son who isn't earning (school) then add on the price of a programme eg £2-£4, a bit of parking and we're talking nearly £40 a meeting! That makes it a pricey evening, not only that the majority of supporters don't want the programme, the race card is a much better option, everyone gets one and fills it in, instead of passing a programme around. PROMOTION....listen to your supporters! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyK86 Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 If we are going down the programme route, i'd like to see something like they offer at Wakefield Rugby League, fits in back pocket nicely, would just have to spread the heat information over 4 pages thats all. I hate the racecard, it offers nothing except something to fill in which i don't do anyway because as long as i know main score then i can find all rider scores when announced after and then internet and speedway star. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILKO Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 Looks like we are back to the same old same old. A new promotion has moved in and we are all back to moaning about Season tickets, programmes, airfence. These guys have just spent a fortune buying the club, bringing in new riders, and all this in a very difficult financial time. People think they should get every thing for nothing, the new promotion are not a charity. These are buisness men saving our speedway club, and trying to build a future. It's not F1 or Premier league soccer, we don't ven get the crowds of non-league soccer. Shout too loud at these guys and they may just say, whats the point in trying. They won't get it all right first time, but with the time scale they have, I don't think it's going too bad. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 In this week's Speedway Star - the race card is being replaced by a newly designed programme. More than happy with the free one personally. I hate the racecard, it offers nothing except something to fill in which i don't do anyway because as long as i know main score then i can find all rider scores when announced after and then internet and speedway star. Just a quick random selection, but it just goes to prove, whatever they do, they will be doing it 'wrong' in some peoples eyes. They might go down the Scunthorpe route, £1 for two sheets of A4 stapled together, with the racecard in the middle, a couple of adverts, a write-up by Rob G and the Fixtures/Results on the back? They may do what the likes of Newcastle do, a proper 'Magazine' for £2.50, in full colour, packed full of write-ups (George English, Rantin' Roy etc.), Stats page, a 'Spot the Difference' etc., etc. But, as I say, whatever route they go down, it'll be wrong. All they are trying to do is 'freshen it up a bit.' New broom and all that. Good luck them, I hope it's a roaring success. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyK86 Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 (edited) Looks like we are back to the same old same old. A new promotion has moved in and we are all back to moaning about Season tickets, programmes, airfence. These guys have just spent a fortune buying the club, bringing in new riders, and all this in a very difficult financial time. People think they should get every thing for nothing, the new promotion are not a charity. These are buisness men saving our speedway club, and trying to build a future. It's not F1 or Premier league soccer, we don't ven get the crowds of non-league soccer. Shout too loud at these guys and they may just say, whats the point in trying. They won't get it all right first time, but with the time scale they have, I don't think it's going too bad. All people are doing is giving the new promotion ideas of what different fans like and would want, dont think anybody is having a go at them and the season ticket price is not great value but its upto people if they buy them or not. I hope they do give the club a much more professional look for sure and so far hearing all good things. So dont dig at fans for sharing ideas/wants that would make their thursday night expierience better for them,problem with Machin towards end is he refused to listen and well watch where crowds went, lets hope new promotion, fresh ideas and not afraid to interact with fans will bring a much better expierience and a better club overall. Edited February 21, 2014 by AndyK 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 All they can do is try there best. Nothing wrong with getting it wrong but it is making sure they listen to the fans after doing it wrong and not making the same mistakes again! Why not try dropping the race card and give programmes ago. Not for me but all they can do is try. Personally for two people to watch 15 heats of speedway at £32 it just too expensive / value for money so don't go as often as we used to. But that just me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The SAINT Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 Looks like we are back to the same old same old. A new promotion has moved in and we are all back to moaning about Season tickets, programmes, airfence. These guys have just spent a fortune buying the club, bringing in new riders, and all this in a very difficult financial time. People think they should get every thing for nothing, the new promotion are not a charity. These are buisness men saving our speedway club, and trying to build a future. It's not F1 or Premier league soccer, we don't ven get the crowds of non-league soccer. #######Shout too loud at these guys and they may just say, whats the point in trying. #######They won't get it all right first time, but with the time scale they have, I don't think it's going too bad. the alternative being- slip away without saying a word and they're lost forever ..... which do you think a 'business' would prefer ???? yours faithfully, DEVILS ADVOCATE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILKO Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 the alternative being- slip away without saying a word and they're lost forever ..... which do you think a 'business' would prefer ???? yours faithfully, DEVILS ADVOCATE I understand what is being said, and I am not saying all the new promotion is doing is right. It just takes time and some times to get it right you have to make a mistake or two along the way. I think the main problem we are seeing here is a very limited time, from buying to opening night. Fingers crossed for the future and all that is said on hear is listened to and taken on board in the spirit it is meant and not as critisism. Yours Devils advocates friend. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieranb91 Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 Yeah yeah yeah at least we got a club to support now that these fantastic individuals have saved it, give them a chance everyone's got opinions but they put their money where their mouth is. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve55 Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 On web site today - new management hoping to stage a minimum of 25 meetings this year which makes a £300 season ticket look like a worthy investment! BTW not seen it mentioned anywhere, but Taylor Poole tweeted earlier in the week that he's got his visa - good news eh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Man Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 Re the programme The race card obviously costs the club money, drop the race card, keep admission prices the same and let anyone who wants to spend extra on a programme do so. no one has to buy it, we will get one between the two of us instead of the club paying for two race cards, how many race cards do you see lying around the terraces and the panarama room after a meeting, either not filled in or just not wanted? lets not argue against change just because we dont like change, lets give it a go then comment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyK86 Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 How about this for an idea, meeting programme charge £2.50, on the front of the programme is a number and that will be your raffle number for evening and 50p out of programme cost goes to prize fund or 50/50 half for prize and half into rider fund for spares or just to air fence. Makes the programme quite a good thing to buy then 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted February 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 The race card has served its purpose, but for me it is time to move on and ditch it. Question is how many race cards actually get filled in, when me and SKJ go we get two racecards yet only one gets filled in, which really is a waste of time and energy for the Promotion. One thing I was going to suggest before the new Promotion made the decision to go with a a programme was to.: Stick with the race card.and have a monthly Fanzine type publication, that might satisfy both sets of fans those who would like the traditional programme and those who would like to see the racecard stay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS50 Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 The racecard may cost a little to produce, but I would assume that it also creates revenue from the advertisements on it (possibly leaving the management in profit). On the website today, encouraging the purchase of season tickets, the link to the page giving information clearly states a racecard is included whether you have a season ticket, or pay on the day. Can anyone confirm, but I seem to remember, several years ago there was a monthly magazine on sale at the track shop. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cue Ball Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 Programmes suck, race cards rule! If you want news buy the speedway star - more content, more up to date and you don't get the same copy 6 months later with a crapy paper insert in the middle when there has been a rain off. I for 1 won't paying anything like £2.50 for 10 pages of adverts and the inevitable out of date team bios just so that I can keep track of the score. Sod that for a game of soldiers. All in my most humble opinion of course, people with money to burn will no doubt disagree with me and welcome spending the additional money every week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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