AndyK86 Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 To compare what happens in the real world regarding going to a better job is totally irrelavent as that is not how it works in speedway. but it is, i can walk out of my job at anytime and go to another one ! so can a speedway rider. Nobody can stop anybody from working ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 but it is, i can walk out of my job at anytime and go to another one ! so can a speedway rider. Nobody can stop anybody from working ! Yes they can in theory as the top men can suspend a rider if they choose too by doing it. Â I don't agree that it's right but it is not the same as you or I doing it. Â I actually worked for someone & was leaving to join another firm doing the same thing but was stopped from doing it for a minimum of 6 months so had to go temping till that period finished. Â That happens a lot in the private sector. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyK86 Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 Yes they can in theory as the top men can suspend a rider if they choose too by doing it. Â I don't agree that it's right but it is not the same as you or I doing it. Â I actually worked for someone & was leaving to join another firm doing the same thing but was stopped from doing it for a minimum of 6 months so had to go temping till that period finished. Â That happens a lot in the private sector. Yeh that does happen in business but i wouldn't sign a contract that lets them control how i leave but i understand why them businesses want them clauses in to protect themselves from rival companies. Â But in Sport it does not apply one bit no matter how much people think it does specially in Speedway, Morris can do as he pleases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reliant Robin Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 Yeh that does happen in business but i wouldn't sign a contract that lets them control how i leave but i understand why them businesses want them clauses in to protect themselves from rival companies. Â But in Sport it does not apply one bit no matter how much people think it does specially in Speedway, Morris can do as he pleases. He can do as he pleases to a certain extent, but B.S.P.A will have the final say. Recall Hans Andersen walking out on Peterborough over unpaid wages some years ago - despite the reasons he still received a 28 day ban. Couldn't just go and sign for another Club straight away. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 He can do as he pleases to a certain extent, but B.S.P.A will have the final say. Recall Hans Andersen walking out on Peterborough over unpaid wages some years ago - despite the reasons he still received a 28 day ban. Couldn't just go and sign for another Club straight away. It would be hilarious if the BSPA did ban him for 28 days meaning Sheffield couldn't sign him as they'd have no facility for him. It would mean he'd end up with no EL or PL place for 28 days. The likelihood if he stayed at Swindon is he'd get a PL place in 28 days anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OdsalBoy Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 The article in the Star from yesterday makes very exciting interesting reading, hope we tie up a deal for this new untried rider from abroad, and as a prediction i reckon Leigh Lanham could well be a Sheffield Tiger very shortly, chuffed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 It would be hilarious if the BSPA did ban him for 28 days meaning Sheffield couldn't sign him as they'd have no facility for him. It would mean he'd end up with no EL or PL place for 28 days. The likelihood if he stayed at Swindon is he'd get a PL place in 28 days anyway. Your forgetting the BSPA protocol rules  Rule 1. The BSPA MC are always right. Rule 2. If the BSPA MC are wrong rule 1 applies. Rule 3. In the event of both above rules being wrong the BSPA MC reserve the right to make it up as they think fit.  Clue - Hoggarts on the MC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OdsalBoy Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 Your forgetting the BSPA protocol rules  Rule 1. The BSPA MC are always right. Rule 2. If the BSPA MC are wrong rule 1 applies. Rule 3. In the event of both above rules being wrong the BSPA MC reserve the right to make it up as they think fit.  Clue - Hoggarts on the MC :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted January 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 He can do as he pleases to a certain extent, but B.S.P.A will have the final say. Recall Hans Andersen walking out on Peterborough over unpaid wages some years ago - despite the reasons he still received a 28 day ban. Couldn't just go and sign for another Club straight away.  I am no legal eagle, but would not the fact that Hans Andersen had a signed contract where as it appears that Nick Morris does not make it a totally different matter.  I think the big question is did Nick actually sign a contract, Rosco's statement reads that he did not only that they had an agreement. Your forgetting the BSPA protocol rules  Rule 1. The BSPA MC are always right. Rule 2. If the BSPA MC are wrong rule 1 applies. Rule 3. In the event of both above rules being wrong the BSPA MC reserve the right to make it up as they think fit.  Clue - Hoggarts on the MC Yes he is and I would say that over the last 15 years Sheffield has had a representative on the MC.  Over that time we have to knowledge not used that fact to gain an advantage, maybe you can point this out to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The SAINT Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 on radio sheff this morning hoggy stated that they are having to look abroad for our 3rd heat leader .... adam skorniki anyone ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 if they are looking for a THIRD heat leader. does that mean that nick is NOT joining sheff. if an assed 7 pointer comes in , that makes nick the 2nd heat leader dunnit. or have i got it all wrong. (as per usual).. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted January 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 on radio sheff this morning hoggy stated that they are having to look abroad for our 3rd heat leader .... adam skorniki anyone ???? Nick Morris is abroad he is in Australia. Â Seriously I think Skornicki's average would be too high and been a Pole there would be license problems. Â My guess its either a young Swede or Dane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The SAINT Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 Nick Morris is abroad he is in Australia. Â Seriously I think Skornicki's average would be too high and been a Pole there would be license problems. Â My guess its either a young Swede or Dane. mainland europe was quoted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Antebellum Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 Adam Skornicki is also in Australia, I believe. Â He is also Polish. How many times do posters on here need to be reminded that Poles are not accepted in PL racing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The SAINT Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 Adam Skornicki is also in Australia, I believe. Â He is also Polish. How many times do posters on here need to be reminded that Poles are not accepted in PL racing? REALLY ??????????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thbender Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 Adam Skornicki is also in Australia, I believe. Â He is also Polish. How many times do posters on here need to be reminded that Poles are not accepted in PL racing? Poles not accepted in PL racing? Doesn't that fly in the face of EU Freedom of Movement regulations? Free movement of workers is a fundamental principle of the Treaty enshrined in Article 45 of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union and developed by EU secondary legislation and the Case law of the Court of Justice. EU citizens are entitled to: look for a job in another EU country work there without needing a work permit reside there for that purpose stay there even after employment has finished enjoy equal treatment with nationals in access to employment, working conditions and all other social and tax advantages. Last time I checked Poland was still a member of the EU. If the PL has placed some sort of prohibition on Polish riders it will be thrown out of court at the first challenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elephantman Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 Your forgetting the BSPA protocol rules  Rule 1. The BSPA MC are always right. Rule 2. If the BSPA MC are wrong rule 1 applies. Rule 3. In the event of both above rules being wrong the BSPA MC reserve the right to make it up as they think fit.  Clue - Hoggarts on the MC This is a pathetic post; the promoters vote in the MC and the MC apply the rules that the promoters vote for. Rossiter should have kept his mouth shut and dealt with this in private; he didn't; his problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 Poles not accepted in PL racing? Doesn't that fly in the face of EU Freedom of Movement regulations? Free movement of workers is a fundamental principle of the Treaty enshrined in Article 45 of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union and developed by EU secondary legislation and the Case law of the Court of Justice. EU citizens are entitled to: look for a job in another EU country work there without needing a work permit reside there for that purpose stay there even after employment has finished enjoy equal treatment with nationals in access to employment, working conditions and all other social and tax advantages. Last time I checked Poland was still a member of the EU. If the PL has placed some sort of prohibition on Polish riders it will be thrown out of court at the first challenge. Â It is the Polish authorities who have put a block on their riders riding in PL, Nothing to do with PL/BSPA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reliant Robin Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 This is a pathetic post; the promoters vote in the MC and the MC apply the rules that the promoters vote for. Rossiter should have kept his mouth shut and dealt with this in private; he didn't; his problem. Out of curiosity, what difference to the situation would keeping his mouth shut have made? Â As I understand, it was being dealt with privately prior to the news appearing in a small snippet in a tabloid newspaper. That news did not come from Swindon. Â Should Rossiter have kept Robins fans in the dark and pretended everything was rosy to protect the integrity of the Sheffield Promotion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 He is also Polish. How many times do posters on here need to be reminded that Poles are not accepted in PL racing? Â None, because they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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