Sheffield 2014

[Charlieboy]

Sounds good to me.Lets hope the rest of the side captures the same excitement as the first two..The track needs to be better than the last couple of years,lets get it grippy on a consistant basis..

[oriole]

Well I guess it was only a matter of time before Richard Hall's name was mentioned.

Personally I'm looking forward to starting a season without the normal gibberish in press releases saying that this is going to be his season.

He's had more than enough chances to fulfil any promise he may have had, but I'd still like to thank him for some superb races round Owlerton over the years.

In fairness to Richard Hall,2013 might just have been his year had he stayed injury free. His first six scores last year against premier league opposition were 11+2,9,8,15,10+2 and 8+1 before he got injured.

[scaramanga]

 

Well said, mate.

 

I don't think that anyone should forget that Owlerton is a superb stadium and, with a track man like Graham Trollope (who is one of the best in the game), can have a track to match. Indeed, the combination is one of the(if not the) finest in the country.

 

Sheffield also have some of the best fans in speedway - in particular Tigerite, Sunglasses Dave and the other maniacs that travel round watching them everywhere regardless of league position.

 

While I respect what Neil Machin has done for the club, new owners will almost inevitably give cause for enthusiasm and a fresh start. That should be embraced.

 

Get a decent team out on track (the one named by Odsal Boy would do), let Graham do his stuff, get Hoggy on the mic and I see no reason why Sheffield can't return to the place where they have spent much of their time in the PL - at the top.

hoogy must be the best speedway mic man ive ever heard

closely followed by michael max

Edited December 15, 2013 by scarra

[OILYRAG]

I think biggest thing is we go back to basics, and remember what it was that gave us the success all those years ago.

 

And that is make Sheffield Fortress Owlerton, for too many seasons now we have had teams that have come to Sheffield and turned us over, we need riders that are going to ride the track consistently well, and with that we need a team that has a fair share of entertaining racers.

 

With that in mind the first two names on the team sheet are absolutely bang on the button.

 

Nobody in the Premier League rides Sheffield better than Steady, and he is a local lad who understands the fans in fact in the words of my Redcar friends "He is one of our own,"

 

Adam Roynon is another who can beat anyone around Sheffield, and when he is fit I believe that he will do that and wil entertain the fans while he is at it.

 

Richard Hall is another name that possibly fits the bill, but the thing with Richard is that is not consistent enough, and end of the day he had his chance to pick up on what the problems were with him and all the promises that he has given have never been fulfilled.

 

Would welcome back Andre now I think, he is a little inconsistent, but still can beat anyone around Sheffield and as a second string/ reserve I think he could do us a good job.

 

Add to that Facu Albin entertaining and a crowd pleaser but I think the club would re-assurances that his bikes were up to scratch.

 

I also think that Damo Koppe probably deserves another go, he really had started to get it together around Sheffield before he was injured, and I was impressed with his dogged determination to ge things right.

 

As for the other two riders there are still riders out there who could do a very good job for us, I suppose Lasse Bjerre is the one rider that springs to mind when thinking about a rider that rides the track well and is entertaining, but there are others and I think we could have a competitive team going into the season.

 

5 of last seasons 2nd bottom team ?

Edited December 15, 2013 by OILYRAG

[graz gp]

I wonder if we will get an update on the progress or not on the sale of the tiger's before Christmas. Come on Mr Machin give us a nice Christmas present, and some good news.

[spin king]

5 of last seasons 2nd bottom team ?

 

Fair point, but they did not ride all ride in the same Sheffield team.

 

For instance how many meetings did Roynon and Compton ride with Stead in the team.

 

Answer; None.

 

Same with Koppe.

 

Also I did say Albin would be on condition that he upgrades his bikes.

 

The big problem last season was the balance of the team between riders on true and assessed averages and the change of the rules which meant we got to the back end of June before those on assessed averages got true averages and we could make a decent change to the side.

 

We brought in Adam Roynon straight away to replace a rider who was on a 3 point average, and day after we lost Steady for the season.

 

Not too sure how many meetings Roynon did for us but I would say it was barely 10 meetings.

 

A fully fit Roynon and Stead are a good start to the team.

 

If you add to that

 

A 7 point plus rider like Bjerre, Birks, Lanham or Tully.

 

The add a 6 point plus rider like North, Lemon, Ostergaard or Wethers.

 

You have the basis of what looks like a decent competitive top 4.

 

I admit that with Steady's average been a little artificially high it does not leave many points to play around with

 

You are probably looking at between 10.30 and 11.30 for the last two riders.

 

Looking what is available there is not an abundance of 4 point plus riders, and I think the best option of Andre.

 

And for the reserve berths Albin on the proviso that his equipment is better and Koppe based on his riding prior to his injury would get my nod, but otherwise I would give Ollie Greenwood in the team instead.

 

But would be interesting to see which way you would go. .

[OILYRAG]

Some good points on how many times they rode together.

 

My pick

 

Stead

Jamrog (on the back of Rickys meeting at Berwick)

Birks

Andre

Roynon

Wilson

Albin

 

If it fits.

Edited December 15, 2013 by OILYRAG

[spin king]

Some good points on how many times they rode together.

 

My pick

 

Stead

Jamrog (on the back of Rickys meeting at Berwick)

Birks

Andre

Roynon

Wilson

Albin

 

If it fits.

 

Not bad choice for a team.

 

Like the fact that there is 3 Sheffield born riders, Sheffield always do better with local born riders.

 

I think that Jamrog would have to come in on a 7 point average which take the team over the limit and Polish rider riding in the Premier League have to ride on ACU licenses rather than a Polish one and they cannot ride then in Poland. I suppose it depends whether or not he would be prepared to ride sorely in the UK.

 

But if you were to replace either Ben or Andre with either say Ollie Greenwood or Damien Koppe it fits.

[OILYRAG]

Not bad choice for a team.

 

Like the fact that there is 3 Sheffield born riders, Sheffield always do better with local born riders.

 

I think that Jamrog would have to come in on a 7 point average which take the team over the limit and Polish rider riding in the Premier League have to ride on ACU licenses rather than a Polish one and they cannot ride then in Poland. I suppose it depends whether or not he would be prepared to ride sorely in the UK.

 

But if you were to replace either Ben or Andre with either say Ollie Greenwood or Damien Koppe it fits.

Thought Jamrog would be a five but you are more clued up on the averages than I am but he was impressive in 3 races at Berwick coming from behind , don't rate Koppe and don't want him back personally.

 

Yes would go with Greenwood in place of Wilson or Andre but I think Wilson is too low an average to miss on a 4 (if I have read the rules right) so would go with him over Andre as I think he could put 2 or 3 points on his starting average.

Edited December 15, 2013 by OILYRAG

[spin king]

Thought Jamrog would be a five but you are more clued up on the averages than I am but he was impressive in 3 races at Berwick coming from behind , don't rate Koppe and don't want him back personally.

 

Yes would go with Greenwood in place of Wilson or Andre but I think Wilson is too low an average to miss on a 4 (if I have read the rules right) so would go with him over Andre as I think he could put 2 or 3 points on his starting average.

 

I am in total agreement regarding Ben, if he has the equipment and the desire I think at worse he would maintain that average, even when his form dipped he was still averaging around the 6 point mark. I know there are plenty of Sheffield fans who don't see it that way but genuinely think that he could be a trump card.

[SCB]

Ben Wilson would return on his last average. About 6 I'm guessing.

[spin king junior]

I'd have only had Wilson back last season really to get him a true average. It'd be a complete waste of averages and time to bring Wilson back, he's not going to improve much now and is gonna take a while to get back into the sport. At the end of the day, we could do so much better than then bringing back Wilson...

 

If we can finish off with North, Bjerre, Koppe and Albin then i think we'd be more than solid enough around Owlerton and would be near the play offs this season.

Edited December 15, 2013 by skj

[spin king]

Ben Wilson would return on his last average. About 6 I'm guessing.

Would not two seasons away from the sport qualify him for a reduction.

[Heedthebaw]

Would not two seasons away from the sport qualify him for a reduction.

Yes it would

[comet49]

I think one full season out gives an 8 percent reduction. I once asked about Kenny Ingalls who hoped to return to speedway next season, you'd think 2 yr would be more. After his accident against Scunthorpe in the 2012 season he must still be not fit enough, haven't heard anything but it was an awful incident.

[romans lovechild]

I really think bjerre and north could be bound for Peterborough if they run in the PL, so would need to be quick for either of those two, as for tully and lanham, they both struggle round owlerton,neither of those 2 would thrill me. I think the next 2 signings will give us all a clue as to the final 3 places.

[SCB]

Would not two seasons away from the sport qualify him for a reduction.

 

 

Yes it would

No. It's 3 full season or 1 full season with injury.

[OILYRAG]

Just re read and I remembered it wrong ... forgot the injured bit . the actual rules is

 

"A rider missing at least one season through injury has their CMA reduced by 8% for each complete season they were absent. A rider missing at least three seasons for other reasons may have their CMA re-assessed by the BSPA."

 

http://www.speedway-faq.org/british.html

Edited December 15, 2013 by OILYRAG

[comet49]

There's logic in it being harder to come back after a bad injury so I'd expect to be less if not injured.

[jenga]

nick morris to you lot now the fan is rotating amongst the sticky stuff at zummerzet..