RS50 Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 How soon would we need a new buyer for the club? I presume that at the promoters conference (presumably next month) teams will have to declare if they are running and in which league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YAMYAMBANDIT Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 How soon would we need a new buyer for the club? I presume that at the promoters conference (presumably next month) teams will have to declare if they are running and in which league. I have not seen anywhere, where, Neil Machin said he is not going to run, simply the club is for sale, I am sure he will keep it running until it is sold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 I have not seen anywhere, where, Neil Machin said he is not going to run, simply the club is for sale, I am sure he will keep it running until it is sold. i read somwhere where alegedly neil has said ne wasnt prepaired to buy a safty fence so i take it from that that he wont be running the club if it dosnt sell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcelle Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 Ben Wilson.NO NO NO. thats the past and he wasnt thar good rhen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted October 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 Ben Wilson.NO NO NO. thats the past and he wasnt thar good rhen. I don't know on a 4 point average he starts to look an attractive proposition especially if get him at reserve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcelle Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 He's not ridden for what, 2 years?..no its time to look forward... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 Lets move up a league...  Emil Sayfutdinov Thomas H Jonasson Micheal Jespen Jensen Kjastas Puodzuks Tai Woffinden Simon Stead Adam Roynon many a true word in jest. perhaps wrong team but right league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graz gp Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 I hope whoever takes over has a clear out, and we don't look to sign riders from the past. Let's start a new and get supporters really exited about the team for next season. Imo keep Steady ( if he is 100% fit) then go from there. Look to the future not look backwards. I just hope the sale does not drag on and on. I would hope Mr Machin will be looking at riders just in case the sale does not happen. He did say he was not closing Sheffield just putting the club up for sale. If he does not sell my only worry will he be motivated for next season. Interesting times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlieboy Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 Who ever takes over has to have a clear out.Weve too many riders who cant score away.When you look at the top 6 sides they are entertaining away and worth following.Weve gone back to the dark days with away performances and some at home this year too.For me Wells is the type of rider we need.Similar average home and away.You don't win leagues with riders who can only score heavy at home with exception to the Exeter team of the past.Lets hope we get the new owner in before all the best riders get picked up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS50 Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 Could someone tell me how Ben Wilson could come back on a four point average, and if he has any wish to return to the sport? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldace Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 I have not seen anywhere, where, Neil Machin said he is not going to run, simply the club is for sale, I am sure he will keep it running until it is sold. Â What is actually for sale though. Â He doesn't own Owlerton. All he is selling is the license to a business that is on the back of three poor years. It can't really have any value other than the few bits of track equipment he owns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 (edited) What is actually for sale though. Â He doesn't own Owlerton. All he is selling is the license to a business that is on the back of three poor years. It can't really have any value other than the few bits of track equipment he owns. Â A 'going concern', a host of assets(riders registrations), the BSPA bond and partshare of 2013 shared events. Edited October 9, 2013 by Tsunami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS50 Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 What is actually for sale though. Â He doesn't own Owlerton. All he is selling is the license to a business that is on the back of three poor years. It can't really have any value other than the few bits of track equipment he owns. 2011 a bad year? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldace Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 A 'going concern', a host of assets(riders registrations), the BSPA bond and partshare of 2013 shared events. Â Would anyone part with money for "rider assetts"? That whole scenario only exists until someone challenges it. In reality speedway riders are self employed tradesmen able to quote for and accept jobs from who they wish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcelle Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 Would anyone part with money for "rider assetts"? That whole scenario only exists until someone challenges it. In reality speedway riders are self employed tradesmen able to quote for and accept jobs from who they wish. Â Yeah,once its challenged it will collapse unless clubs put Riders on proper contracts like other sports 2,3 or 4 year deals..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS50 Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 Yeah,once its challenged it will collapse unless clubs put Riders on proper contracts like other sports 2,3 or 4 year deals..... So what happens if you put all seven riders on a two year deal, they improve their averages, and are then above the points limit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldace Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 So what happens if you put all seven riders on a two year deal, they improve their averages, and are then above the points limit? Â The point is though without any contract of employment then they are free to ride for whoever they want. Â It is like you laying claim to owning your window cleaner and trying to include him in the sale of your house. Â A club can employ any rider they want without having to pay loans or transfers because riders are not assetts of anyone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 Sheffield had to pay a loan fee for Simon Stead this year. I don't know about any of the others, but definitely for Simon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 Would anyone part with money for "rider assetts"? That whole scenario only exists until someone challenges it. In reality speedway riders are self employed tradesmen able to quote for and accept jobs from who they wish. Â Others have been saying that for decades and in 2013 we still await that challenge. The system is not perfect but it is workable and will stay and it stands the test of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted October 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 Others have been saying that for decades and in 2013 we still await that challenge. The system is not perfect but it is workable and will stay and it stands the test of time. I think while we have BSPA running the sport there will be no change, the change make come if or when an Independent body starts to run the sport.Until then I do see any rider challenging the system, and I think it will be rider that challenges it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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