Owen Cook Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Any news on who may be replacing Alex Davies 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madsteve Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 Any news on who may be replacing Alex Davies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barncooseboy Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Alex Davies will be replaced by an Australian called Alex Davies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orderly Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Alex Davies will be replaced by an Australian called Alex Davies Has he been granted a T5 visa, Don't take it as read that because Jason Doyle got a T5 visa that all Aussie riders will get one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylorj Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Has he been granted a T5 visa, Don't take it as read that because Jason Doyle got a T5 visa that all Aussie riders will get one Very unfair to the other riders struggling to get visas if Doyle gets one . It should be the same for all of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Very unfair to the other riders struggling to get visas if Doyle gets one . It should be the same for all of them. Â Doyle, Davies, Douglas, Ringwood and Smith named in today's SStar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Very unfair to the other riders struggling to get visas if Doyle gets one . It should be the same for all of them. Im not sure how that works,? im sure it depends on more than "oh he got one so i should" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewer Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Im not sure how that works,? im sure it depends on more than "oh he got one so i should" Will you think that way if some get there visas and ryan douglas doesnt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 (edited) If you read the full article in SS, it explains that Plymouth have to first apply for and get a 'Visa Sponsor Licence' before they can request/support a Tier 5 Visa application for Davies! That's why its different to the Doyle case. Not sure how the other riders/clubs are affected. Â The other thing is that Tier 5 visas are temporary and might only be a solution for the current problems and will not be issued again in future years. All riders/clubs are advised to apply for Tier 2 to run from/to March 1st each year Edited February 6, 2014 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Part of the criteria is to be proven at the highest level ain't it??.... Surely that rules Davies and the rest out?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 If you read the full article in SS, it explains that Plymouth have to first apply for and get a 'Visa Sponsor Licence' before they can request/support a Tier 5 Visa application for Davies! That's why its different to the Doyle case. Not sure how the other riders/clubs are affected. Â The other thing is that Tier 5 visas are temporary and might only be a solution for the current problems and will not be issued again in future years. All riders/clubs are advised to apply for Tier 2 to run from/to March 1st each year Im sure it has been mentioned that all clubs have to hold one of these sponsors licences in order for even a rider from another team on such a visa to ride at their track. Â Is that the case or just a bit of BS?? Part of the criteria is to be proven at the highest level ain't it??.... Surely that rules Davies and the rest out?? Doesn't say that they have to be proven to be any good though does it just proven. So they could be rubbishe so long as its proven!!! Â (Before any body jumps on this Im not saying any of them are rubbishe (Im too polite for that) - its just shows that its not only speedway rules that can have the interpretation twisted) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble53 Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 Â (Before any body jumps on this I'm not saying any of them are rubbish (I'm too polite for that) - its just shows that its not only speedway rules that can have the interpretation twisted) Â Talking of interpretation, it could be said that Alex qualifies as having been proved at the highest level. Being chosen to represent your national side has to be at the pinnacle of sporting achievement, and Alex represented Australia in the U21 SWC last season, not only in the qualifying rounds, but reaching the final as well. Some might argue that at that level (U21) he has not reached the highest standard, but I would counter that by adding, if there was anyone better they would have been in the Australian side, and not Alex. So at U21 level at least, he has achieved the qualification requirements. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 Â Talking of interpretation, it could be said that Alex qualifies as having been proved at the highest level. Being chosen to represent your national side has to be at the pinnacle of sporting achievement, and Alex represented Australia in the U21 SWC last season, not only in the qualifying rounds, but reaching the final as well. Some might argue that at that level (U21) he has not reached the highest standard, but I would counter that by adding, if there was anyone better they would have been in the Australian side, and not Alex. So at U21 level at least, he has achieved the qualification requirements. Always did well when guesting for Poole! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble53 Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 (edited) Always did well when guesting for Poole! Â What, all 2 matches..... Â 3 from 4, in main body of the team, away to the Panthers, with Tungate doing the same at reserve, and 8 from 5 at reserve in an early season 'Shield' match against Swindon........like I said, matter of interpretation Edited February 9, 2014 by womble53 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 Â Talking of interpretation, it could be said that Alex qualifies as having been proved at the highest level. Being chosen to represent your national side has to be at the pinnacle of sporting achievement, and Alex represented Australia in the U21 SWC last season, not only in the qualifying rounds, but reaching the final as well. Some might argue that at that level (U21) he has not reached the highest standard, but I would counter that by adding, if there was anyone better they would have been in the Australian side, and not Alex. So at U21 level at least, he has achieved the qualification requirements. Since when was Under 21 the highest level? Representing your country fully is the highest level. Or a GP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orderly Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 Since when was Under 21 the highest level? Representing your country fully is the highest level. Or a GP. Â To represent your country in the under 21's at world level is the highest level for a young person to attain in any sport at junior level, and just for the record when have you represented your country at any level. I understand that you are entitled to your opinion, but lets have your opinion with out demeaning those that have achieved the honour to represent their country 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 Â To represent your country in the under 21's at world level is the highest level for a young person to attain in any sport at junior level, and just for the record when have you represented your country at any level. I understand that you are entitled to your opinion, but lets have your opinion with out demeaning those that have achieved the honour to represent their country It's not the highest level though. We're talking work permits. So you have to be the best available. Not the best at an age group. Alex Davies is NOT proven at the highest level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger MARTIN Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 (edited) It's not the highest level though. We're talking work permits. So you have to be the best available. Not the best at an age group. Alex Davies is NOT proven at the highest level.  It's not the highest level though. We're talking work permits. So you have to be the best available. Not the best at an age group. Alex Davies is NOT proven at the highest level. Somerset promoter Debbie Hancock said: “Jason has qualified, by virtue of his second place finish in the recent Australian Championships, for the Grand Prix qualifying meetings in 2014, which could ultimately see him lining up in the World Championship GP Series in 2015. It was felt that in order to give him the best chance possible to do this, he should be pitting himself on a consistent basis against top quality opposition and to do this he needs to be riding in the Elite League.  Where does it say any rider has to be the best available, Debbie Hancock is giving the reason, read it and digest, if you can, nothing about being proven at the highest level, it's all down to Jason's second place finish in the recent Australian Championship. Edited February 9, 2014 by Devildodger 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014  Somerset promoter Debbie Hancock said: “Jason has qualified, by virtue of his second place finish in the recent Australian Championships, for the Grand Prix qualifying meetings in 2014, which could ultimately see him lining up in the World Championship GP Series in 2015. It was felt that in order to give him the best chance possible to do this, he should be pitting himself on a consistent basis against top quality opposition and to do this he needs to be riding in the Elite League.  Where does it say any rider has to be the best available, Debbie Hancock is giving the reason, read it and digest, if you can, nothing about being proven at the highest level, it's all down to Jason's second place finish in the recent Australian Championship. And where did Alex Davies finish in the same competition?  I think you'll find the criteria for a tier 5 visa is to be "proven at the highest level". Jason is Australian number 2 and a SWC rider so qualifies. While Alex Davies is....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble53 Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 And where did Alex Davies finish in the same competition? Â I think you'll find the criteria for a tier 5 visa is to be "proven at the highest level". Jason is Australian number 2 and a SWC rider so qualifies. While Alex Davies is....? Â The criteria will be whatever the UKBA accepts after being given all the information on each particular case, because like most other things the within a given set of rules they are open to interpretation as to what is acceptable. Â If given all the information regarding any riders achievements or otherwise, that rider is accepted by the UKBA, he will have met their criteria as they see it, and not as you see it............so we will wait and see if Alex is given a T5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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