E I Addio Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 Must be true then. I have always had respect for Cook but it was disappointing that he failed to condemn the cancelled meeting particularly following the ruling from the BSPA that Poole should revert to their original 1-7. There was very limited action that Cook could have taken, since the visiting promoter has no say in it under the rules. None of us know what went on behind the scenes and the SCB are not the mast transparent organisation in the world when it comes to keeping fans informed. In an announcement on the Lakeside website a week or two back the promotion said they were going to make their views on certain matters known "behind closed doors" (which presumably means the AGM) and I would be astonished if this matter was not one of the matters included, or indeed the main matter. The trouble is that unless and until the SCB are prepared to keep the fans fully informed all we can ever do is speculate. Bottom line is that we all know why Poole postponed the meeting and given the circumstances its inexplicable that Belle Vue should have got a £5000 fine and three points deducted while Poole have no points deducted and no fine. Then again given the farce of the Belle Vue-v- Poole Sky broadcast a few weeks ago we can all speculate on why Poole had no points deducted. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Turner Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 (edited) I am quite calm and not crying about it. I do like people to read words that are actually written though, and not what they would like them to say. I read the update on the Poole website very carefully at the time. It did NOT say there was a mutually agreed postponement. It was written to the usual vague and wishy-washy Ford-speak to try to imply Lakeside had agreed to the postponement and those who think the sun shines from Matt's posterior might well have read it that way but it did not actually say that that. Go back and read it again. It was because of this attempt to implicate Lakeside that Jon Cook issued a second statement the following day clarifying the situation and stating clearly that the decision to postpone was Poole's alone, and virtually calling Ford a liar. The key point is that Poole never came back an denied what Cook said . Rubbish. If Jon Cook was upset he would of made a complaint. If not then bigger fool him. Is there even a rule against postponing matches upon mutual consent? And yes, whatever I read at the time said that Lakeside was happy with the postponement. Hence why Lakeside don't care. Edited September 25, 2013 by Synikalle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 (edited) Rubbish. If Jon Cook was upset he would of made a complaint. If not then bigger fool him. Is there even a rule against postponing matches upon mutual consent? And yes, whatever I read at the time said that Lakeside was happy with the postponement. Hence why Lakeside don't care. Now you have lost your marbles completely. You have jumped from saying Lakeside agreed to the postponement to saying Lakeside was actually happy with the postponement. And still you can't provide us with a link to back up what you have said. EDIT: According to Speedway Star this issue was due to be discussed by the SCB on 10th July but that was the last anyone seems to have heard of it. No doubt it has been put on the back burner and forgotten about by the SCB with nothing heard since, much the same as the King Lynn -v- Peterborough matter was, except the Boro'-v-KL issue was suddenly bought out just when needed. Edited September 25, 2013 by E I Addio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 You are correct but Holder would have definately got more than 9 on monday, Greg said he has struggled with set ups on tracks he hasn't ridden for years, in my view the Swindon lead would have been no more than 6 with Chris riding. In my view Swindon would've won by 30 points if we had Leigh Adams, Barry Briggs & Jimmy Nilsen at reserve. Oh wait a minute how can I be sure of that. That's it I can't just the same way you can't be sure what Chris would've scored. He didn't ride so can't see the point of saying it really Poole can still win this easy & Swindon will have to be at their very best to stop it happening. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agrotron Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 We will beat Swindon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 We will beat Swindon You hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 (edited) Rubbish. If Jon Cook was upset he would of made a complaint. If not then bigger fool him. Is there even a rule against postponing matches upon mutual consent? And yes, whatever I read at the time said that Lakeside was happy with the postponement. Hence why Lakeside don't care. Some Poole fans do come out with classics. Mutual consent, love the comedy. We will beat Swindon We will beat Swindon ................................in my dreams. (you missed the last part out). Edited September 25, 2013 by stevebrum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Turner Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 Some Poole fans do come out with classics. Mutual consent, love the comedy. If Matt Ford is the big bad wolf then why don't the other promoters get some balls and do something about it? Because it's starting to look a lot like sour grapes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 If Matt Ford is the big bad wolf then why don't the other promoters get some balls and do something about it? Because it's starting to look a lot like sour grapes. Its not sour grapes! Ford called off the Lakeside match and Cook stated it was Poole`s decision alone. That is all we need to know about who made the decision. But it was anything but Mutual consent! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloves Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 Wow Matt Ford is the permanent villain. What surprises me is that everything seems to rest with him. Am surprised as isn't the lakeside promoter the chair!!!! If there had been a case to answer it would of happened by now. Will be sorry not to see the 9pt riders in the elite league next year but needs must. At least Brummies will hopefully have Harris on a bargain average. Am surprised no posters have said anything about his average dropping so much while not at his parent club. Am absolutely sure if it was a loaned Poole rider there would have been outrage!!!! Go you Brummies so want our first Elite title!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaleshifter Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 Its not sour grapes! Ford called off the Lakeside match and Cook stated it was Poole`s decision alone. That is all we need to know about who made the decision. But it was anything but Mutual consent! Steve Brum, this is a Poole vs Swindon thread so why are you discussing the Lakeside postponement? Your obsession with Matt Ford and Poole is pathetic you and EI-Addio cant leave it alone. I suggest you concentrate on your own clubs dwindling play-off hopes 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 (edited) In my view Swindon would've won by 30 points if we had Leigh Adams, Barry Briggs & Jimmy Nilsen at reserve. Oh wait a minute how can I be sure of that. That's it I can't just the same way you can't be sure what Chris would've scored. He didn't ride so can't see the point of saying it really Poole can still win this easy & Swindon will have to be at their very best to stop it happening. Cant see the point of bringing ex riders in to it who havent ridden for years, some have said we havent suffered with injuries, just pointing out we have and it is likely chris would have scored more than greg, holder got 15 on his last visit. Edited September 26, 2013 by foreverblue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 Cant see the point of bringing ex riders in to it who havent ridden for years, some have said we havent suffered with injuries, just pointing out we have and it is likely chris would have scored more than greg, holder got 15 on his last visit. I notice you changed from saying Greg hadn't ridden Swindon for years - must have remembered when he rode last month 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 If Matt Ford is the big bad wolf then why don't the other promoters get some balls and do something about it? That's a very good question and one that I don't fully understand because its obvious he has pissed off most of his competitors over the years I can only imagine the deals he does with riders and bricks ensures he gets his way but as EI Addio says the SCB mentioned they were discussing the Lakeside postponement on the 10th July and nothing has been said since. As fas as the SCB goes it certainly appears Ford says jump and the SCB say how high. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malcolm_31 Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 (edited) Cant see the point of bringing ex riders in to it who havent ridden for years, some have said we havent suffered with injuries, just pointing out we have and it is likely chris would have scored more than greg, holder got 15 on his last visit. Yes but Ward only got 2 in the same meeting .....You cannot say he would of ot this or that....You dont know. Who would of thought Holder would not of won all his rides in the home leg of the final last year .... Edited September 26, 2013 by malcolm_31 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 (edited) Yes but Ward only got 2 in the same meeting .....You cannot say he would of ot this or that....You dont know. Who would of thought Holder would not of won all his rides in the home leg of the final last year .... Well i hope Hans will only get 2 points at Poole monday but it isn't likely is it. Holder isn't unbeatable, even at Poole, he did get paid 13, i don't think that's too bad!! Edited September 26, 2013 by foreverblue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 Well i hope Hans will only get 2 points at Poole monday but it isn't likely is it. Holder isn't unbeatable, even at Poole, he did get paid 13, i don't think that's too bad!! Still totally irrelevant as Chris is injured so what points he might or not have got is just a guess & not proven. Just don't understand why you keep bringing it up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecoombdog Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 Steve Brum, this is a Poole vs Swindon thread so why are you discussing the Lakeside postponement? Your obsession with Matt Ford and Poole is pathetic you and EI-Addio cant leave it alone. I suggest you concentrate on your own clubs dwindling play-off hopes All this moaning about Lakeside missing out because of this and that is just a pointless argument. They had it in their own hands for long enough and got hammered at Poole and Swindon at the end of the season. They didn't deserve to be in the play off's and would have got mullered against us last week if they had been. They couldn't beat us when we had nothing to ride for so it would have been an even bigger beating this time around. Lakeside fans should be relieved not moaning about something that happened months ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 Still totally irrelevant as Chris is injured so what points he might or not have got is just a guess & not proven. Just don't understand why you keep bringing it up. How can it be irrelevant, as i said some were saying injuries haven't hurt us and i am just pointing out they have. If Lewis Kerr gets zero on monday and you lose by 12, it will be said by some that Ashley Birks injury cost you a place in the final. I sincerely hope Ashley fully recovers from his awful injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 Steve Brum, this is a Poole vs Swindon thread so why are you discussing the Lakeside postponement? Your obsession with Matt Ford and Poole is pathetic you and EI-Addio cant leave it alone. I suggest you concentrate on your own clubs dwindling play-off hopes Maybe you can also let the others discussing it know as well as it had plenty coverage on page 6. Your and some of your fellow blue tints are likewise obsessive calling out posters all the time for daring suggest what many think. Don`t worry i will be concentrating on seeing if we can pull of the impossible on Monday ................................. whilst at the same time watch the Robins prove why the Pirates are lightweights in the play offs. Sounds like a good night to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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