foreverblue Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 (edited) Crikey I didn't realise that Neil Middleditch was part of Michael Lee's career going off the rails. What a track record he has of helping keep young riders on the straight & narrow:-)Lee also rode in. the same team as rosco, so now you know where rosco learnt all he knows or smokes!! Edited January 12, 2014 by foreverblue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Lee also rode in. the same team as rosco, so now you know where rosco learnt from!! Neil has a lot to answer to by the looks of things then:-) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 (edited) I think you will discover there are kings Lynn and Swindon fans who also agree with me. Well done for getting a couple on your side.    You admit to knowing that!! I know a lot about music. That is my excuse and i am sticking to it    Fact for Steve Shovlar not opinion  Sweden - 2012  Ward 7.94 Iversen 9.22 Woffinden 6.00  Sweden - 2013  Ward 8.73 Iversen 8.71  Poland - 2012  Ward 7.36 Iversen 8.52 Woffinden 6.30  Poland - 2013  Ward 7.62 Iversen 9.46 Woffinden 9.33  UK - 2012  Ward 9.76 Iversen 8.84 Woffinden 8.80  UK - 2013  Ward 9.07 Iversen 9.12 Woffinden 9.20  Clearly shows from FACTS that Iversen is many steps ahead of Ward. Ward is still young and has all the potential to be better but right now he's not. In 2013 Woffinden shows as the biggest improver too. These are facts, enjoy them Steve Shovlar and the Pooleites will still turn that into irrelevant arguments. Cant argue with facts, unless you are a Poole fan of course!    Gavan and Steve Brum have just lost the argument. Can't argue with sliders post.  Fact. Cant argue that Tai won the World title injured and was the best rider all season. FACT.    Yep, and how many meetings did Darcy miss through injury and how many did NKI ride?? you lot will be eating cardboard come next October... Excuses excuses blah blah blah.    NZ Darcy scores 12 from 6 (5th place) NZ Tai scores 9 from 6 (7th place)  Bydgoszcz GP Darcy scores 13 from 6 (5th place) Bydgoszcz GP Tai scores 14 from 7 (4th place)  Gothenburg GP Darcy scores 0 from 2 (16th place) Gothenburg GP Tai scores 12 from 6 (5th place)  Prague GP Darcy DNR Prague GP Tai scores 19 from 7 (1st place)  Cardiff GP Darcy DNR Cardiff GP Tai scores 7 from 3 rides (9th place)  Gorzow GP Darcy DNR Gorzow GP Tai scores 12 from 7 (3rd place)  Copenhagen GP Darcy scores 19 from 7 (1st place) Copenhagen GP Tai scores 11 from 6 (6th place)  Italian GP Darcy scores 11 from 6 (6th place) Italian GP Tai scores 18 from 7 (2nd place)  Latvian GP Darcy scores 13 from 7 (2nd place) Latvian GP Tai scores 15 from 7 (3rd place) * podium 2nd in scores  Slovenian GP Darcy scores 10 from 6 (6th place) Slovenian GP Tai scores 17 from 7 (2nd place) * podium 1st in scores  Stockholm GP Darcy scores 15 from 6 (5th place) podium, joint 2nd in scores Stockholm GP Tai scores 7 from 5 (10th place)  Torun GP Darcy scores 13 from 6 (5th place) Torun GP Tai scores 12 from 6 (6th place)   Darcy scores 106 from 52 rides = 2.038 Tai scores 151 from 74 rides = 2.04  Close as you like! And in favour of Tai. Thanks for pointing out what sensible folk already knew ;-) Edited January 12, 2014 by stevebrum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 NZ Darcy scores 12 from 6 (5th place) NZ Tai scores 9 from 6 (7th place)  Bydgoszcz GP Darcy scores 13 from 6 (5th place) Bydgoszcz GP Tai scores 14 from 7 (4th place)  Gothenburg GP Darcy scores 0 from 2 (16th place) Gothenburg GP Tai scores 12 from 6 (5th place)  Prague GP Darcy DNR Prague GP Tai scores 19 from 7 (1st place)  Cardiff GP Darcy DNR Cardiff GP Tai scores 7 from 3 rides (9th place)  Gorzow GP Darcy DNR Gorzow GP Tai scores 12 from 7 (3rd place)  Copenhagen GP Darcy scores 19 from 7 (1st place) Copenhagen GP Tai scores 11 from 6 (6th place)  Italian GP Darcy scores 11 from 6 (6th place) Italian GP Tai scores 18 from 7 (2nd place)  Latvian GP Darcy scores 13 from 7 (2nd place) Latvian GP Tai scores 15 from 7 (3rd place) * podium 2nd in scores  Slovenian GP Darcy scores 10 from 6 (6th place) Slovenian GP Tai scores 17 from 7 (2nd place) * podium 1st in scores  Stockholm GP Darcy scores 15 from 6 (5th place) podium, joint 2nd in scores Stockholm GP Tai scores 7 from 5 (10th place)  Torun GP Darcy scores 13 from 6 (5th place) Torun GP Tai scores 12 from 6 (6th place)   Darcy scores 106 from 52 rides = 2.038 Tai scores 151 from 74 rides = 2.04  Close as you like! Gonna make this year interesting then, init... 1 thing we're all united (not confused about ) about , is you still post the usual blue tinted garbage Thanks for the vote of confidence.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ColinMills Posted January 12, 2014 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 I have never read just long winded drivel..its not even an argument that make any sense....since when has world champions be given to top average riders?..why bother staging world finals, just hand it to top average riders!..utter stupity to suggest comparisns. tai has achieved the biggest goal in worlod speedway, darcy hasn't, and until he does, theres no comparison! 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunRobin Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 I wonder what Darcys average would have been and his GP standing would have been had he not got injured... Easy to get confused up there... I think that Ward has probably got the most talent but unfortunately for him, not the best judgement. He needs to adjust his lifestyle, get himself fitter & to play the percentages more, learning when to settle for the points he has got. This way he may avoid injury & become world champion, the way that Tai did! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tidgy Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Tai is a proven World Champion, he was awesome last year and i always thought he had the talent to do it. Darcy also has the talent but as yet has not completed his goal . Tai is the better gater for sure and if Darcy can up his gating will be there or there abouts for sure, but Tai has been there and done it. who is best, well i dont know, but we do know Tai is a Champion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Ward was struggling at the beginning of the season even before he got injured. Although he is a talented rider he did make some silly mistakes in the gp which cost him finals. Â Tai was the best for me as became world champion even with injuries and was exciting to watch 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Poole admission prices are £17 for 2014, and £285 for season tickets of 18 EL meetings plus free entry to the Lakeside challenge meeting on March 26th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Perhaps the delay is Matt waiting for confirmed agreement that Millik is a 4 (which he should be). Â If the governing body change the rules to block him, then Matt should go for Morris plus THJ if they fit to give strength in depth. Would be just as strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidder1 Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Perhaps the delay is Matt waiting for confirmed agreement that Millik is a 4 (which he should be). Â If the governing body change the rules to block him, then Matt should go for Morris plus THJ if they fit to give strength in depth. Would be just as strong. They don't fit!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 They don't fit!!! Shame would have been a decent plan to fall back on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Perhaps the delay is Matt waiting for confirmed agreement that Millik is a 4 (which he should be). Â If the governing body change the rules to block him, then Matt should go for Morris plus THJ if they fit to give strength in depth. Would be just as strong. Â Â They don't fit!!! That's never stopped Fraud in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointsmeanplayoffs Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 15 in the heats is better than sneaking a semi with 7 then having a second and a win. The semi and final is no more important than any other race. Â Tell that to Niels! Winning the final gives confidence. As soon as he won in Terenzano, there was no stopping him! I think only Jarek outscored him after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Perhaps the delay is Matt waiting for confirmed agreement that Millik is a 4 (which he should be). Â If the governing body change the rules to block him, then Matt should go for Morris plus THJ if they fit to give strength in depth. Would be just as strong. It has happened to Somerset over Brady so quite possible Milik could be re-assessed too. As previously discussed 5 should be minimum for all newcomers anyway so it would only be fair if it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 It has happened to Somerset over Brady so quite possible Milik could be re-assessed too. As previously discussed 5 should be minimum for all newcomers anyway so it would only be fair if it was. The thing about watering down the league is that it takes a while for the ramifications of that action to be addressed. On last year's rules, 4 may have been fair (although I agree that all new foreigners should come in on a minimum of 5) but this year it will give any team that signs such a rider a distinct advantage - although there is a risk that he might not do well at British tracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 They don't fit!!! Yeh, i thought the same, untill i looked at the average.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidder1 Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) The thing about watering down the league is that it takes a while for the ramifications of that action to be addressed. On last year's rules, 4 may have been fair (although I agree that all new foreigners should come in on a minimum of 5) but this year it will give any team that signs such a rider a distinct advantage - although there is a risk that he might not do well at British tracks. Who would be a Promoter?? Those supporters complaining about 'watering down' the league and giving young Brits a chance are the same ones insisting that 'foreigners' are given higher averages making it more difficult to use them!!! Edited January 14, 2014 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Who would be a Promoter?? Those supporters complaining about 'watering down' the league and giving young Brits a chance are the same ones insisting that 'foreigners' are given higher averages making it more difficult to use them!!! Usually fans of clubs that arn't using these riders on perceived bargain averages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Who would be a Promoter?? Those supporters complaining about 'watering down' the league and giving young Brits a chance are the same ones insisting that 'foreigners' are given higher averages making it more difficult to use them!!! Yes but what you haven't connected is that if you water down the league the old assessed average is effectively invalid and needs to be reviewed. Just looking for consistency Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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