Crazy robin Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 So he posts a antagonistic comment on a poole thread and doesn't expect anyone to defend their club!! If a rider is in the draft list then his parent club should be able to have their asset in their team shouldn't they? Never mind a debate but as usual it started off with the old loophole accusation. As some will know on here i am not one to tow the party line, in fact i have agreed with alot of comments on some of the things Poole have done in the past. You read into it what you want as I really couldn't care less as a reasonable debate with you is only ok by your rules. Pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 You read into it what you want as I really couldn't care less as a reasonable debate with you is only ok by your rules. Pathetic. Nothing to do with my rules, more your agenda. Anyway i thought you were staying away from this thread!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 To be fair crazy foreverblue is one of the decent Poole fans on here who will discuss and debate. Never found him an issue. Try talking to Shovlar lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Nothing to do with my rules, more your agenda. Anyway i thought you were staying away from this thread!! No agenda at all as will point out AGAIN that it was in answer to a post made by Steve Shovlar about Kyle Newman & have mentioned the other riders on the other thread. Will answer any posts you make about me but as for the rest then I will be staying away from this thread. To be fair crazy foreverblue is one of the decent Poole fans on here who will discuss and debate. Never found him an issue. Try talking to Shovlar lol You reckon!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingbee Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Surely Coventry should have chosen from their Storm team for their best reserve.Why when Garrity is the best reserve out there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 No agenda at all as will point out AGAIN that it was in answer to a post made by Steve Shovlar about Kyle Newman & have mentioned the other riders on the other thread. Will answer any posts you make about me but as for the rest then I will be staying away from this thread. You reckon!!!! I realise it was a reponse about Kyle Newman made by Steve Shovlar and i was only defending my club, i am sure you would do the same. If i accused Swindon of finding loopholes i am sure you and other Swindon fans would defend your clubs position especially if you feel the accusations are unfounded. Why when Garrity is the best reserve out there True but if you believe some on here you should only pick a rider who has ridden for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 (edited) I realise it was a reponse about Kyle Newman made by Steve Shovlar and i was only defending my club, i am sure you would do the same. If i accused Swindon of finding loopholes i am sure you and other Swindon fans would defend your clubs position especially if you feel the accusations are unfounded. I support & love the sport first & foremost & my club 2nd & have been highly critical of them in the past especially last season with the finance fiasco. The sport had a chance to put a level playing field in with the draft riders at reserve & to have any rider in it with a Premier lge average above 5 is simply ridiculous when compared to the other draft riders. It doesn't matter who they are or who they ride for. We will never agree on it but I'm certain that the 3 riders with a Premier lge above 5 will clean up at reserve in their races against the other draft riders & believe me I would still be saying this if they were at Swindon. Edited December 18, 2013 by Crazy robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 I support & love the sport first & foremost & my club 2nd & have been highly critical of them in the past especially last season with the finance fiasco. The sport had a chance to put a level playing field in with the draft riders at reserve & to have any rider in it with a Premier lge average above 5 is simply ridiculous when compared to the other draft riders. It doesn't matter who they are or who they ride for. We will never agree on it but I'm certain that the 3 riders with a Premier lge above 5 will clean up at reserve in their races against the other draft riders & believe me I would still be saying this if they were at Swindon. Not necessarily as i believe there are some up and coming riding who will prove better but i take your point, i think you have to look at the two reserves as a pair and their are not many teams who would choose Lee Smart!! Sometimes it is better to have two good riders rather than one top rider and one bad one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingbee Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 I realise it was a reponse about Kyle Newman made by Steve Shovlar and i was only defending my club, i am sure you would do the same. If i accused Swindon of finding loopholes i am sure you and other Swindon fans would defend your clubs position especially if you feel the accusations are unfounded. True but if you believe some on here you should only pick a rider who has ridden for you. there is no point in believing any thing on here most of it Is a load of cr"p anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 As has been said before, it's not a fair draft system if you have protected riders - but seeing as Poole have benefitted - that's ok then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 As has been said before, it's not a fair draft system if you have protected riders - but seeing as Poole have benefitted - that's ok then Have we, how do you come to that conclusion then Steve0? Please explain.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INCOGNITO Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 What is Pawlicki's average as the last one I can see is 6.95. Has he ridden since then or is it recalculated due to the rolling averages ? I understand assessed averages were changed and Piotr Pawlicki was given a stupid 7+ average but that got lowered. Was it to 6.00 or 6.50 ? Whichever way, it will be good to see two young and exciting riders riding over here while others turn their backs on British Speedway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingbee Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 As has been said before, it's not a fair draft system if you have protected riders - but seeing as Poole have benefitted - that's ok then so has kings Lynn ,lakeside, Wolverhampton so nothings going to change its done move on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 What is Pawlicki's average as the last one I can see is 6.95. Has he ridden since then or is it recalculated due to the rolling averages ? I understand assessed averages were changed and Piotr Pawlicki was given a stupid 7+ average but that got lowered. Was it to 6.00 or 6.50 ? Whichever way, it will be good to see two young and exciting riders riding over here while others turn their backs on British Speedway His average is 7.09 As has been said before, it's not a fair draft system if you have protected riders - but seeing as Poole have benefitted - that's ok then Yeah big benefit having lee smart, welcome to swap him for either of your reserves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 so has kings Lynn ,lakeside, Wolverhampton so nothings going to change its done move on I know that - the point is it can't be a fair draft system. As you say, nothing's going to change but it doesn't alter the fact that the process was fundamentally flawed His average is 7.09 Yeah big benefit having lee smart, welcome to swap him for either of your reserves Lee Smart wasn't a protected rider so is irrelevant to the discussion. However, even though he was picked by choice, rumour has it that he may be replaced. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 I know that - the point is it can't be a fair draft system. As you say, nothing's going to change but it doesn't alter the fact that the process was fundamentally flawed Lee Smart wasn't a protected rider so is irrelevant to the discussion. However, even though he was picked by choice, rumour has it that he may be replaced. And no other reserve in the league won't be?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelliejim Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Have i missed something i thought there was a list of draft riders Matt Ford didnt come up with that list he just chose a rider that was on that list that was owned i think by Poole not sure how that is rule bending Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Have i missed something i thought there was a list of draft riders Matt Ford didnt come up with that list he just chose a rider that was on that list that was owned i think by Poole not sure how that is rule bending Mate, you should know by now, anything poole do as reguards this forum is rule bending.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Have i missed something i thought there was a list of draft riders Matt Ford didnt come up with that list he just chose a rider that was on that list that was owned i think by Poole not sure how that is rule bending Yes you have! As EL winners, Poole should have had last pick of draft riders - but they didn't! Not Poole's fault - it's the process that was flawed - like everything from BSPA Towers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 (edited) Yes you have! As EL winners, Poole should have had last pick of draft riders - but they didn't! Not Poole's fault - it's the process that was flawed - like everything from BSPA Towers Why? Every one of those riders who are a clubs asset should be riding for that club. Assuming, there's enough left over, then they get distributed. and in that cause, we came last... But assuming, clashes aside, Neil will get the best out of young Smart... Edited December 18, 2013 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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