XTC38L Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 You know he will be back defending anything Poole related. Its hard to fall much lower. But he does it time after time. Seems clear cut - `mitigating excuses circumstances` or not. No such thing as mitigating circumstances in a doping enquiry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 No such thing as mitigating circumstances in a doping enquiry Nor should there be - although Middlo appears to disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTC38L Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 Nor should there be - although Middlo appears to disagree.Yes but middlo is an idiot. If he was any sort of manager he would have pulled ward into line long ago instead he'd rather spend his time kissing the golden child's arse 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 According to the FIM rulebook, Ward is out for at least two years, even though it's a first violation (actually, the first time he's been caught). Great news, at least the FIM will deal with this appropriately. Shame on you, Ward. Worldwide ban as well, in any form of motorcycle sport. He's finished, and only himself to blame. See Article 10, page 31. It seems clear cut to me. http://www.fim-live.com/fileadmin/alfresco/6572010_ang_ANTI-DOPING.pdf A mistake certainly but this punishment is a joke,i see this all those years ago with Mike Lee.Has there been any suggestion of hearing Ward's side of the story? or maybe talking to him and trying to maybe help him.Some people on here want him slaughtered he has made a bad mistake but lets put it into perspective.If this punishment is severe the GP series will suffer missing him and Emil both in the top five riders in the world would be a crying shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 BUT could end his career and that would certainly count as a bad day... Yes, but in the TV interview he was only thinking in terms of missing today's GP and talking about a quick comeback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTC38L Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 A mistake certainly but this punishment is a joke,i see this all those years ago with Mike Lee.Has there been any suggestion of hearing Ward's side of the story? or maybe talking to him and trying to maybe help him.Some people on here want him slaughtered he has made a bad mistake but lets put it into perspective.If this punishment is severe the GP series will suffer missing him and Emil both in the top five riders in the world would be a crying shame.A mistake it maybe but it's still a doping offence and the penalty is upto 2 years. He knows the rules and he broke them and has been caught and will be punished accordingly and only has himself to blame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 A mistake it maybe but it's still a doping offence and the penalty is upto 2 years. He knows the rules and he broke them and has been caught and will be punished accordingly and only has himself to blameTwo years is a joke. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecoombdog Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 What he has done is stupid and he has had it coming with other incidents that he hasnt learnt from. A ban is deserved. BUT the pleasure that some people seem to be taking from the fact he may be banned for 2 years is shocking. People seem genuinely pleased about this. Sad sad indivduals. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTC38L Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 How is it a joke. Its in black and white in the rule book. Can't be any clearer than that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 How is it a joke. Its in black and white in the rule book. Can't be any clearer than thatIt might be in there little pathetic rulebook but this is far to steep hopefully common sense will prevail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARK246 Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 It might be in there little pathetic rulebook but this is far to steep hopefully common sense will prevail. Stefan Danno had a ban for the same, Dudek is facing a 2 year ban for using a banned substance, why should Ward be treated differently? Here's a link http://www.drinkfox.com/information/alcohol-metabolism so the two drinks with a meal story doesn't ring true 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTC38L Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 It might be in there little pathetic rulebook but this is far to steep hopefully common sense will prevail.Rubbish its world anti doping rule that all sports people are governed by 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 Stefan Danno had a ban for the same, Dudek is facing a 2 year ban for using a banned substance, why should Ward be treated differently? Here's a link http://www.drinkfox.com/information/alcohol-metabolism so the two drinks with a meal story doesn't ring true Every case should be judged on there merits,what about helping these people? it's easy to just throw the book at people.How can he get punished like that and the Biter in football gets only four months after other offences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribbler Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 It might be in there little pathetic rulebook but this is far to steep hopefully common sense will prevail. I think you'll find that a 2 year ban is about for drug-taking average for most sports. I know that alcohol is a legal substance - but it is, in its own way, a mind-altering substance. In athletics people have been caught out unknowingly by taking such innocent things as antihistamines - and still be banned. Athletes are not a danger to others - only themselves... Darcy was going to ride in a speedway meeting, knowingly having used alcohol less than 24 hours before the meeting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTC38L Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 Every case should be judged on there merits,what about helping these people? it's easy to just throw the book at people.How can he get punished like that and the Biter in football gets only four months after other offences.Because he didn't test positive to drugs or alcohol. Its a blanket rule for doping. First offence is 2 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryW Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 (edited) Because he didn't test positive to drugs or alcohol. Its a blanket rule for doping. First offence is 2 yearsAs I mentioned in the other thread about this, the rules seem to suggest that if there was no attempt to enhance performance the minimum is a reprimand and the maximum a 2 year ban...it's not a clear cut blanket 2 year ban for all substances. Edited August 17, 2014 by HenryW 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARK246 Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 Every case should be judged on there merits,what about helping these people? it's easy to just throw the book at people.How can he get punished like that and the Biter in football gets only four months after other offences. Maybe a ban is the best way to help him, he might have a different life style Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribbler Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 Every case should be judged on there merits,what about helping these people? it's easy to just throw the book at people.How can he get punished like that and the Biter in football gets only four months after other offences. I know that in football there is support and intervention for those gambling and drink problems. If Darcy has a problem with alcohol etc.he will find a 'rock bottom' and ask for help when he is ready. If he doesn't think he has a problem he won't change. Biting someone is less dangerous than riding a bike with no brakes around a track with three other riders... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 I know that in football there is support and intervention for those gambling and drink problems. If Darcy has a problem with alcohol etc.he will find a 'rock bottom' and ask for help when he is ready. If he doesn't think he has a problem he won't change. Biting someone is less dangerous than riding a bike with no brakes around a track with three other riders... Dont think biting and riding a speedway bike while under the influence can be compared. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribbler Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 Dont think biting and riding a speedway bike while under the influence can be compared. But I didn't start the comparison 'Sidney' brought in the comparison - I only replied to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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