Gavan Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 what is there to say??? ever season same club with underhand tactics its so boring. lets just hope they win eff all 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 Don't trust anything Poole, I once bought a speedway star at the track from a very odd man, and some of the pages were stuck together. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 Something is for sure Compton wont be the difference between winning and losing the league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 Something is for sure Compton wont be the difference between winning and losing the league http://speedwaytotal.com.ar/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/DSC04407.JPG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 Something is for sure Compton wont be the difference between winning and losing the league Why ? he could score 2 or 3 points more than Johnson that's a like a six point swing. it could make a massive difference in a tight play off match 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 Well the way I read it like most on here is that the rule being suggested is only for guests only.In actual fact I think that is the only way you can read it.Only a few are suggesting different,i wonder where they are from But you have a valid point on how he has gone from 20th to 25th on the list moving below the likes of Hopwood,Greaves,Mallett and Webster makes no sense.Can't say because of the injury or else Ashley Morris would have a much lower position than 10th because he has been sidelined for a while as well. That's the problem you get from grading riders because there's no actual measure of ability between them and consistency, other than someone's opinion! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 i can see whats been goin on , compton been slowly moved down the list on the sly , he was 15th , he's now 25 th no other rider has moved by that amount of places... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloves Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 I can understand why Compton is where he is in the listing as his NL average is worse than Johnson and Hopwood. Do think its a gamble and I don't think he will do any better than the previous two, in terms of the fast track system overall I like it but maybe restrict it to 1 berth next season. Certainly Kerr, Rose, Steve Worrall, blackbird, garrity and Newman are 6 real improves in my eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TesarRacing Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 Neil runs the Team, Matt picks the team but will run riders past Neil, pop into Matts office, and tell him he's cheating... I know the answer you'l get, and the second words orf, nobody has cheated... Has KKS/JJR hacked your account?!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 I can understand why Compton is where he is in the listing as his NL average is worse than Johnson and Hopwood. Do think its a gamble and I don't think he will do any better than the previous two, in terms of the fast track system overall I like it but maybe restrict it to 1 berth next season. Certainly Kerr, Rose, Steve Worrall, blackbird, garrity and Newman are 6 real improves in my eyes. The only real improver in my eyes is Worrall from last season and Blackbird. If you think the fast track system has bought riders on you are mistaken. Everyone knew Garrity Newman and Kerr were far to good to be included and they are only beating the riders you would expect them to Something is for sure Compton wont be the difference between winning and losing the league of course he could be Hopwood and Johnson scored nothing most weeks. If compton gets 3 its a 6 point swing! Lets look at the other elite league clubs threads and see how many others include comments about underhand tactics. I will tell you the answer NONE. Same old same old with Poole its so boring now. If at first we dont succeed we cheat. Matt Ford well dont get me started on that man ruining the sport Middlo the twitter clown doesnt help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 I can understand why Compton is where he is in the listing as his NL average is worse than Johnson and Hopwood. Do think its a gamble and I don't think he will do any better than the previous two, in terms of the fast track system overall I like it but maybe restrict it to 1 berth next season. Certainly Kerr, Rose, Steve Worrall, blackbird, garrity and Newman are 6 real improves in my eyes. That's only because Compton has been out injured so he hasn't got a new average this season yet, whereas Johnson & Hopwood have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Turner Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 (edited) There has to be an explanation. If Matt Ford has done wrong why isn't he being held accountable? It's all well and good going on and on about how Matt Ford, the pantomime villain of speedway, is a horrendous cheat, but if no action is taken then how can anybody say he has done wrong? I am fed up with Poole's efforts being rubbished every single season because somebody wants to throw an allegation our way. If Matt Ford has broken a rule then the BSPA need to come to the stand and publicly reprimand him NOW, as it isn't fair on Poole fans. Funnily enough, we don't all sit in our arm chairs rubbing our hands together whilst we plot the next big scam, it completely undermines our whole season. It's simple really, Either Matt Ford has acted within the rules, and a BSPA statement must explain how that is the case or Matt Ford has broken the rules, and the Pirates should be penalized and a BSPA statement must explain that also. Other supporters may think it's great to win all the time, but it's not when every other supporter feels you did not deserve it. It's horrible and ruins the speedway experience. So come on BSPA, statement time. Edited August 6, 2014 by Settings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salty Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 (edited) Compton got paid 8 from 4 rides riding for Swindon against Poole earlier this season. Now back to fitness after his hand injury he has far more potential to score points than the other riders the Pirates have tried in their 2nd FTR slot. No reason at all why he should have slumped 10 places on the list. Even then it shouldn't matter because he is still 2 places above Johnston and the rule about riders graded below 24 only applies to guest bookings. Yet again the Pirates have got their way and the "you scratch my back I'll scratch yours" mentality of the cartel of promoters mean that nobody has the cojones to stand up to them. Edit: to reply to Charizard. I'll be amazed if there is any further communication from anyone. Nobody seemes willing to rock the boat at the promoters top table. Regarding the constant accusations of rule bending, well you reap what you sow. The sad fact is that whenever there is a new rule many of us sit back and wait to see how Poole can exploit it. The FTR suited them with Newman's inclusion, somewhat controversially given his PL average and experience. Not content with having one of the top FT riders, they have now managed to get their way with their second choice. Edited August 6, 2014 by salty 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Turner Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 Compton got paid 8 from 4 rides riding for Swindon against Poole earlier this season. Now back to fitness after his hand injury he has far more potential to score points than the other riders the Pirates have tried in their 2nd FTR slot. No reason at all why he should have slumped 10 places on the list. Even then it shouldn't matter because he is still 2 places above Johnston and the rule about riders graded below 24 only applies to guest bookings. Yet again the Pirates have got their way and the "you scratch my back I'll scratch yours" mentality of the cartel of promoters mean that nobody has the cojones to stand up to them. Rubbish. What on earth could Matt be bringing to the table that is good enough for all other promoters to give their blessing to his cheating? Like I said, it's explanation time from the BSPA. Something doesn't add up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salty Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 Come on. Do you seriously think that the promoters haven't got their wee "special relationships" for the perceived common good? Look at the postponement of the Lakeside meeting last year, the Belle Vue farce to get them into the play-offs. How many teams have Poole assets riding for them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Turner Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 Come on. Do you seriously think that the promoters haven't got their wee "special relationships" for the perceived common good? Look at the postponement of the Lakeside meeting last year, the Belle Vue farce to get them into the play-offs. How many teams have Poole assets riding for them? And that's worth damaging the integrity of the entire sport? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 And that's worth damaging the integrity of the entire sport? That ship has long since sailed. The saddest part of all this is that it comes as absolutely no surprise. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 And that's worth damaging the integrity of the entire sport? BSPA and UK speedway hasn't had integrity for many years. That's why it's in the state it is. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointsmeanplayoffs Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 If the BSPA has accepted the team change, then at least the reasoning behind the decision should be shared with the opposing team/fans so at least then we'll all have clarity and can move on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salty Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 And that's worth damaging the integrity of the entire sport?I think it was Middlo who was quoted during their bad spell last summer as saying "winning means everything".As others say the integrity of the sport is long shot to bits, and even sadder, most don't even care anymore, or even cared in the first place. Poole will get a good crowd tonight with the vast majority totally unaware and uncaring about the make up of the Pirates 1-7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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