Trees Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 If the Poole track is bad perhaps that's another reason Holder is not doing what is expected? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 If the Poole track is bad perhaps that's another reason Holder is not doing what is expected? Holder isnt doing what is expected because he hasnt got his confidence back after his injury is not quite true  The fact is he rode like a trooper and was more than happy to mix it and battle in the gp means nothing to Poole fans who look for excuses.  He might be short of confidence on a trick track like Poole where you can only ride scraping the fence but is fine on tracks that are safe. Lets see how he goes in Poland at the next gp im sure you will see a different Holder 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherborne Green Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 I thought that Chris scored 11 points out of 12 yesterday morning and 8 points out of 12 yesterday evening. Â That gives him an average of 9.5 over the two meetings. Â He did not score so many in his only other Poole match it is true but all riders have an off match. And by the way that was a Monday match and he only scored 7 from 5 rides in Poland the day before. Â Therefore, Gavan, I can not see the real point you are making. If Chris performs bad over the full 28 days you may have a point but we will have to wait and see. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 Therefore, Gavan, I can not see the real point you are making. You think Gavan needs a point to troll away on the Poole forum? His infatuation with me and anything Poole is quite frankly frightening. Lisa Collette mentioned it last night. He is totally out of control and chases my posts around like some kind of obsession. Â Give it a few minutes. Tick tock tick tock.......... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Parsons Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 Thanks for reply, am pleased to know Holders scores are being looked at,that's all i need to know, and yes we do a independent BSPA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 and here i am!! Â Poole fans were saying Holder was poor because of lack of confidence and the point i was maing is that it cant be that. Â He may be more hesitant on a track deemed not to be that safe and against Coventry the track was scary and Holder scored poorly. Â The track was better against Swindon and Swindons track was fine and he showed he could score points. Â The point i was making is that Holder isnt suffering from a lack of confidence just is going to be more hesitant on harder tracks. Â If you want to twist it any other way i expect nothing less I thought that Chris scored 11 points out of 12 yesterday morning and 8 points out of 12 yesterday evening.That gives him an average of 9.5 over the two meetings.He did not score so many in his only other Poole match it is true but all riders have an off match. And by the way that was a Monday match and he only scored 7 from 5 rides in Poland the day before.Therefore, Gavan, I can not see the real point you are making. If Chris performs bad over the full 28 days you may have a point but we will have to wait and see. what point do you think im trying to make because im not sure you understand. Â Holder isnt lacking in confidence is the point im trying to make and there is nothing better than seeing a truly great rider like Holder on track and scoring well afterr the injuries he had. Â Im sure his low score against Coventry was due to the poor track and not going for the 'scary' wide line rather than his own confidence. You think Gavan needs a point to troll away on the Poole forum? His infatuation with me and anything Poole is quite frankly frightening. Lisa Collette mentioned it last night. He is totally out of control and chases my posts around like some kind of obsession.Give it a few minutes. Tick tock tick tock.......... chase chase chase i cant help it! Â i only usually reply to your posts more because 9/10 times they are crap and im not the only one on here who comments yet you somehow love to single me out......maybe its you who has the obsession! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 Â Â i only usually reply to your posts more because 9/10 times they are crap and im not the only one on here who comments yet you somehow love to single me out......maybe its you who has the obsession! Â He quotes you in virtually every post. It is clear who has the obsession! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishRoundabout Posted April 20, 2014 Report Share Posted April 20, 2014 I liked the look of the Pirates team in March. What price on them going the whole season unbeaten? Smart won't be there long, so they will strengthen further no doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lino wolf Posted April 20, 2014 Report Share Posted April 20, 2014 I liked the look of the Pirates team in March. What price on them going the whole season unbeaten? Smart won't be there long, so they will strengthen further no doubt. wouldnt fancy them to win at belle vue or lakeside ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted April 20, 2014 Report Share Posted April 20, 2014 I liked the look of the Pirates team in March. What price on them going the whole season unbeaten? Smart won't be there long, so they will strengthen further no doubt.cant see them going unbeaten because I think Lynn are stronger. Wouldn't surprise me if Lynn were the only team that beat them though. Possibly lakeside as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedwayfun Posted April 20, 2014 Report Share Posted April 20, 2014 If we gave noddy to swindon, darcy to birmingham, the polish twosome to leicester, that would even things up!! Â But then why should we even respond to the critics because we have a promoter who works hard at building teams in the best way possible!!?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted April 20, 2014 Report Share Posted April 20, 2014 I liked the look of the Pirates team in March. What price on them going the whole season unbeaten? Smart won't be there long, so they will strengthen further no doubt. Cant see them beating Kings Lynn or Belle Vue away IMO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted April 20, 2014 Report Share Posted April 20, 2014 If we gave noddy to swindon, darcy to birmingham, the polish twosome to leicester, that would even things up!! Â But then why should we even respond to the critics because we have a promoter who works hard at building teams in the best way possible!!?? Â yet another boring missing the point post from a Poole fan. Nobody is saying you haven built a good team, the second best in the league in fact. Nobody is saying Matt Ford isn't a good promoter for Poole so why all the paranoia that everyone is against Poole. It quite frankly bores and annoys other fans of other clubs. All Poole are guilty of us having a poorly prepared track . I'm hoping Poile storm the league and then get beat in the play offs by a team that was biult badly at the start but made changes and got to the play offs and go on to win it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyfan Posted April 20, 2014 Report Share Posted April 20, 2014 yet another boring missing the point post from a Poole fan. Nobody is saying you haven built a good team, the second best in the league in fact. Nobody is saying Matt Ford isn't a good promoter for Poole so why all the paranoia that everyone is against Poole. It quite frankly bores and annoys other fans of other clubs. All Poole are guilty of us having a poorly prepared track . I'm hoping Poile storm the league and then get beat in the play offs by a team that was biult badly at the start but made changes and got to the play offs and go on to win it. Is this a massive whoooooooooosh or has starman changed his name Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted April 20, 2014 Report Share Posted April 20, 2014 yet another boring missing the point post from a Poole fan. Nobody is saying you haven built a good team, the second best in the league in fact. Nobody is saying Matt Ford isn't a good promoter for Poole so why all the paranoia that everyone is against Poole. It quite frankly bores and annoys other fans of other clubs. All Poole are guilty of us having a poorly prepared track . I'm hoping Poile storm the league And you could do better on a Friday morning, could you?? Yeh we'l storm the League, we'l win it on a tight reine,I told you that during the Winter... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted April 20, 2014 Report Share Posted April 20, 2014 And you could do better on a Friday morning, could you?? Yeh we'l storm the League, we'l win it on a tight reine,I told you that during the Winter...what? Do better on a Friday morning what the heck does that mean? You won't win it a canter as Lynn are stronger and the average teams like Belle Vue Coventry and Lakeside may strengthen. Fact is at the end of the last league season the two strongest teams were 4th and 5th. No guarantee the table toppers are the best team. You would think Poole would have learnt that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted April 20, 2014 Report Share Posted April 20, 2014 what? Do better on a Friday morning what the heck does that mean? You won't win it a canter as Lynn are stronger and the average teams like Belle Vue Coventry and Lakeside may strengthen. Fact is at the end of the last league season the two strongest teams were 4th and 5th. No guarantee the table toppers are the best team. You would think Poole would have learnt that Thought you would have been at Rye House today supporting your team, rather than continuing with your main obsession - every Poole thread??!! You must try to get out more!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted April 20, 2014 Report Share Posted April 20, 2014 Thought you would have been at Rye House today supporting your team, rather than continuing with your main obsession - every Poole thread??!! You must try to get out more!!been with the family today far more important than speedway but thanks for caring. If you care to take a closet look I post on lots of different threads but usually the Poole one is the most talked about one. I class you skidder as a decent enough fan but when you get the comedy sideshow from Shovlar and the crazy postings of Starman you just have to comment 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted April 20, 2014 Report Share Posted April 20, 2014 Whot are poole up to wiith averages, by looks of it trying to get holders down so they can fit, holder and ward in team again,if any one from BSPA reading, I can see holder throwing in a few more last places, than watch him go once in team again with ward, This is frankly bollocks. If that was what poolecwanted the best time to have done it would have been the start of the season.When you the next green sheets are out josh g and milik will both have sizeable increases to their average, meaning a total dismantling of thteam if they wanted holder and ward. And of course if holders average drops below wards, poole wont be able to bring darcy back in for holder when fit, so the worst thing for poole is a dramatic drop in holders average. Poole have done plenty of dodgy things, but anyone who thinks holder is deliberately dropping his averafe is either paranoid, doesnt know the rules around team building, a little bit thick, or combination of the above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 Now that Ward has made his return to speedway with Unibax Torun, and doing very well at the minute, can we take it that the short term deal with Holder will be knocked on the head so Ward can make his return to the Poole team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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