LagutaRacingFan Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 So.....if Holders average drops slightly to just below Wards (as it may well do on the new heat format) and the rest increase their lower averages (which Shamek is already on the way to doing) so the team average goes over 32 then Ward be not be able to get back in........unless Josh or the other bloke get a taste of Uncle Matt's "loyalty" and find themselves replaced by some other Herbert ? Interesting. Not if Holder comes in as a temporary replacement for Ward. Regardless of averages, You can then make the switch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 So.....if Holders average drops slightly to just below Wards (as it may well do on the new heat format) and the rest increase their lower averages (which Shamek is already on the way to doing) so the team average goes over 32 then Ward be not be able to get back in........unless Josh or the other bloke get a taste of Uncle Matt's "loyalty" and find themselves replaced by some other Herbert ? Interesting. Read the post below yours. Hougaard Racing Fans is correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 We are. We wish you'd stop it... I love how your post is liked by the Poole troll club. Priceless. Thanks for brightening my evening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 I love how your post is liked by the Poole troll club. Priceless. Thanks for brightening my evening Steve you are getting worse than Gavan. Give it a rest for Christs sake man. You just go on and on like a stuck record and its very boring for everyone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 Steve you are getting worse than Gavan. Give it a rest for Christs sake man. You just go on and on like a stuck record and its very boring for everyone. Ditto, You go first and i will follow suit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poole Quay 7 Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 We are. We wish you'd stop it... No chance of that Starman, Poole Speedway obsessed TROLL who will go to any length to gain one-upmanship on any thread. Even at the expense of making himself look childish and foolish. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 Not if Holder comes in as a temporary replacement for Ward. Regardless of averages, You can then make the switch. Can a temporary injury replacement have a higher average though? Genuine question as I dont know. Not if Holder comes in as a temporary replacement for Ward. Regardless of averages, You can then make the switch. Can a temporary injury replacement have a higher average though? Genuine question as I dont know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 (edited) Can a temporary injury replacement have a higher average though? Genuine question as I dont know. Can a temporary injury replacement have a higher average though? Genuine question as I dont know. A temporary replacement must have a lower average than the rider he's replacing but If that rider then drops his average below the rider he's just temporarily replacing then It doesn't matter as you can make a 1 in 1 out switch but If you want to make 2 changes then you would have to re-declare the whole side and make sure the averages fit. Edited April 10, 2014 by Hougaard Racing Fans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 Can a temporary injury replacement have a higher average though? Genuine question as I dont know. Grey area as I'm sure there not really a rule about temp signings. Common sense says yes TBF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 Grey area as I'm sure there not really a rule about temp signings. Common sense says yes TBFSo technically if Holder comes in it should be as a formal redeclaration with the risk that revised averages make Darcys return impossible. Personally I would say that this is a genuine 'special dispensation' case and the temp switch should be allowed regardless of average changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 So technically if Holder comes in it should be as a formal redeclaration with the risk that revised averages make Darcys return impossible. Personally I would say that this is a genuine 'special dispensation' case and the temp switch should be allowed regardless of average changes. Why is this a "special dispensation" case There have - sadly - been many many instances of a rider being injured and unable to compete for a number of weeks, and clubs have dealt with them Again, I ask, why "special dispensation" for Poole / Ward? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 I was under the impression that a temporary replacement can come in as long as he fits in the team total average and that the injured rider can come back in for that replacement regardless of averages? Seems like commonsense to me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 There should be NO special dispensation of any form for any club, thats what gets the sport into a mess! Stick to the rules! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritPete Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 Why is this a "special dispensation" case There have - sadly - been many many instances of a rider being injured and unable to compete for a number of weeks, and clubs have dealt with them Again, I ask, why "special dispensation" for Poole / Ward? Because it's Poole, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Panda Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 I was under the impression that a temporary replacement can come in as long as he fits in the team total average and that the injured rider can come back in for that replacement regardless of averages? Seems like commonsense to me. Correct.............as long as it fits in with the team average overall then there is no reason why especially based on the fact we would be using our own asset he cannot be signed as a temporary replacement............. RP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 Love it that the Anti Poole Brigade (APB) are getting their knickers in a twist and trying to call us cheats when we are following the rules correctly. Bag puss summed the rule up perfectly. We are just so good at the rules and winning that others can't believe it and just stand aghast at the brilliance of Matt and middlo. Roll on Monday night and to swat those Bees! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 The problem with people spouting off when its all above board is that it dilutes the argument when there is skullduggery going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 (edited) I am sure Gavan will be along in a minute to have his usual rant. Edited April 11, 2014 by Steve Shovlar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 I was under the impression that a temporary replacement can come in as long as he fits in the team total average and that the injured rider can come back in for that replacement regardless of averages? Seems like commonsense to me.Seems commonsense to me too but is that actually the rule? If it is then there is no dispensation required anyway. If it isnt then as I said I believe this is a valid case. I accept the arguement that there should be no dispensation for any situation and agree that ideally that would be the case - but that is just not feasible with the current set up. Given that the merits of each case need to be considered without bias. It doesnt matter that it is Poole and some may feel they 'have gotten away with it in the past' all that matters is would this be right. IMO this would regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidder1 Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 Even if it were a 'temporary guest replacement', for home meetings Poole could get a guest upto 9.52 (Darcy's 9.07 + 5%)!! I'm sure its a 28-day cover for DW as he's confirmed he is not having an op and is targeting a return for SGP on 26th! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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