bigcatdiary Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 No, rider are giving an average by an "independent" person. How they work that out only they know. As I said in the winter, 4.5 or 5 would have been fairer but it's a bit late now. To be fair I think all riders coming into the EL should be at least a 5.00, unless they have done a season in the PL first. Everyone knows Malik's better than 4.00 It's just same old same old. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 To be fair I think all riders coming into the EL should be at least a 5.00, unless they have done a season in the PL first. That would also include any rider signing for Swindon then?? My answer to your question, tough. that's his official average so go swim... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 Yeah that 2 points Proctor scored around Monmore last week was amazing!!!!!!! thats the same proctor who is coming big from missing most of last season through injury give him a chance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 Still waiting on an explanation why THJ was left out of the Pirates side, I find it sickening to see a title winner and hero not given a job this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidder1 Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 Still waiting on an explanation why THJ was left out of the Pirates side, I find it sickening to see a title winner and hero not given a job this year. Simple, Average didn;t fit (yet)!! thats the same proctor who is coming big from missing most of last season through injury give him a chance! Agreed but it was you that brought up the Monmore comparison - its not as if Proctor hasn't ridden there for most of his EL career, whereas Milik has only ridden Poole twice competitively!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 Give it a couple of months and thj may well be called in to replace josh g or milik after they have raised their averages sufficiently racing primarily against other second strings and nl riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedwayfun Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 it is the original set up that the governing body made therefore we can't include thj what a fkn mess they sure hate poole - what is it with them - matt ford steals a march on other promoters so he is obviously evil!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 Give it a couple of months and thj may well be called in to replace josh g or milik after they have raised their averages sufficiently racing primarily against other second strings and nl riders. You really don't have a clue, do you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 I'm not sure why some are upset by Milik having a 4.00 average? The way the BSPA works the averages today is correct. They do have a system and it's simple. The system is simple perhaps but it still needs looking at. We are looking at bringing on the next generation. We need all new riders on a fair assessed average. Plus no one should be coming on a ridiculously low 4. If they are good enough to come to the UK then a minimum should be 5. yh it is fair wolves just built There team wrong lol That remains to be seen. We were written off last year and i see a similar season ahead to last. To be fair I think all riders coming into the EL should be at least a 5.00, unless they have done a season in the PL first. Everyone knows Malik's better than 4.00 It's just same old same old. Don`t know who this Malik is! Of course you are right. the minimum bar should be raised to 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedwayfun Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 why do people come on to a poole thread and moan - do they not have better things to do particularly with their own teams!!?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 You really don't have a clue, do you... So just to clarify: you are categorically ruling out the possibility that ford may strengthen the team during the year by replacing one of the second strings who will be on artificially high averages? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidder1 Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 (edited) So just to clarify: you are categorically ruling out the possibility that ford may strengthen the team during the year by replacing one of the second strings who will be on artificially high averages? If the second strings are scoring loads of points and increasing their averages, why would you want to replace them??? It could mean a heat leader dropping to 2nd string and having the 'easier' rides - and that could be the case with any team!! Edited March 24, 2014 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 If the second strings are scoring loads of points and increasing their averages, why would you want to replace them??? It could mean a heat leader dropping to 2nd string and having the 'easier' rides - and that could be the case with any team!! so you are saying that if Milik or Josh up there average to say 8.5 that Ford wouldnt then replace them with say Kasprzak for example? or even tempt Holder back somehow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 If the second strings are scoring loads of points and increasing their averages, why would you want to replace them??? It could mean a heat leader dropping to 2nd string and having the 'easier' rides - and that could be the case with any team!! Its not like Poole like to drop a rider doing his job................ cough cough judas Miedzinski. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 Its not like Poole like to drop a rider doing his job................ cough cough judas Miedzinski. and Howarth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 Its not like Poole like to drop a rider doing his job................ cough cough judas Miedzinski. Meiedzinski wasn't dropped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Turner Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 Its not like Poole like to drop a rider doing his job................ cough cough judas Miedzinski. What is wrong with dropping riders? The key to a successful sports team is winning through effective team management, it's not about giving all the riders a big cuddle. To be fair I think all riders coming into the EL should be at least a 5.00, unless they have done a season in the PL first. Everyone knows Malik's better than 4.00 It's just same old same old. Why should they come in on 5? The last thing Britain needs is to distance themselves even further from the rest of the speedway world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidder1 Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 so you are saying that if Milik or Josh up there average to say 8.5 that Ford wouldnt then replace them with say Kasprzak for example? or even tempt Holder back somehow Why would you? If Milik or Josh are scoring that well then why go for the added cost of getting KK? They'd also have to be averaging 9.2+ to get Holder in, who now has Danish as well as Swedish and Polish commitments!! Holder would only come in if Ward got injured - and even then it would depend on fixture clashes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 Why would you? If Milik or Josh are scoring that well then why go for the added cost of getting KK? They'd also have to be averaging 9.2+ to get Holder in, who now has Danish as well as Swedish and Polish commitments!! Holder would only come in if Ward got injured - and even then it would depend on fixture clashes! Why not? We all hear how brilliant Ford is so if you could bring in KK (for example) for Milik im sure he would. Your not telling me that either having Magic, Pawlicki or KK at 4 isnt better than Milik or Josh! With the Holder situation could be 2 riders to make way to get him in. You say he cant come because of commitments then say he would if Ward was injured! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorset delight Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 Why would ANY-TEAM drop anyone on a 8.50 average 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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