salty Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 That is the same quotes used on the Poole website yesterday. I can't see how a planned move at the end of April is relevant. Once the May FTR list was announced and Compton was graded above Lee Smart then that move was dead in the water. As far as I remember Smart was still in the Pirates 1-7 until 11th May when he was replaced by Hopwood. Since then Benji has always been graded too high to fit into the Pirates septet (unless he replaces Kyle), until this "loophole"was discovered/manufactured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 That is the same quotes used on the Poole website yesterday. I can't see how a planned move at the end of April is relevant. Once the May FTR list was announced and Compton was graded above Lee Smart then that move was dead in the water. As far as I remember Smart was still in the Pirates 1-7 until 11th May when he was replaced by Hopwood. Since then Benji has always been graded too high to fit into the Pirates septet (unless he replaces Kyle), until this "loophole"was discovered/manufactured. Â Â Its the usual bull from MF. NO move in April can be held until suited. Amazingly Compton has fallen further and further down the list. Co-incidence when it comes to the BSPA and Poole deals? Either way he is still ABOVE Johnson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribbler Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 Bringing in Benji Compton as a FT rider is a complete farce. He was riding in the CL in 2005 for Scunthorpe and now , 9 years later, he's a FT rider . FT should be restricted to any rider with three years or less as a speedway rider - or five years maximum. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 Bringing in Benji Compton as a FT rider is a complete farce. He was riding in the CL in 2005 for Scunthorpe and now , 9 years later, he's a FT rider . FT should be restricted to any rider with three years or less as a speedway rider - or five years maximum. Â Good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 exactly , how can you go back in time and say we we could fit him in in may but he got injured , but now he's fit again he's in even thou the averages have changed and as of now he wont fit in we're puttin him in anyway  i also think the authorities are too scared to say no to ford , probly think if thery upset him theres no more back handers whats phil morris's role in all this and why did he guest manage for poole a few weeks ago , something fishy there , would a referee be allowed to guest manage a club as a one off 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 Anyway how can they use the apparent move done in April when he didn't even make an appearance because of injury.It all smells of bull***t yet again. Another fed up fan outside of Dorset. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TesarRacing Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 (edited) by the way you support a club that has help Poole cheat and a man in Cook who stands by and let's Ford him do it . You could say that about all the promoters. Â By the way, what's happened to Skidder1's original post - I was just about to quote it! A teams current position in the EL could determine which way a BSPA member may vote. That's why mid season rule changes should never be allowed. Â PS Apologies, it is still there - didn't look properly! Edited August 6, 2014 by TesarRacing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 You could say that about all the promoters. Â Â Not really as Cook holds more sway than most plus he played a massive part in the Poole v Lakeside called off last year . it's pretty clear that Cook and Ford are in it together . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 All I've got to say is I'm not surprised at all that this has happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 Bringing in Benji Compton as a FT rider is a complete farce. He was riding in the CL in 2005 for Scunthorpe and now , 9 years later, he's a FT rider . FT should be restricted to any rider with three years or less as a speedway rider - or five years maximum. No worse than Lee Smart who was their original rider tbf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwatcher Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 (edited) The Pirates must rate as the team with the most changes to FTR this year and we are only a few month into the start of the scheme. A rule should have been put into place that only if the FTR was injured then could any changes have been made until that rider was fit again, all this swapping and changing is a complete farce to the system that has been set up. The Pirates are not the only team to have done it, but I thought the whole idea of was to bring on the young riders not get rid of them if they where not scoring enough points in meetings. If the teams are so frightened of not getting to the top of the league tables at the end of the season then hard luck. They should have made it that the FTR scores didn't count in the team results, only the score of the 5 other riders, that way it would have put less pressure on the young riders and done away with all this complete and utter farce of getting rid of them when they feel like they are not doing enough, Edited August 6, 2014 by weatherwatcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 Anyway how can they use the apparent move done in April when he didn't even make an appearance because of injury.It all smells of bull***t yet again. Another fed up fan outside of Dorset. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 No worse than Lee Smart who was their original rider tbf. Â The riders concerned are not the issue. Its the downright bending of the rules, and insulting the integrity of the fans and supporters.. The moral standards that are desperately needed for survival. are totally demolished by the underhanded way, deals are done.. Is winning that important.???? Â I find all this quite shameful and unnecessary. Poole have the basis of a successful side, without all this underhanded goings on. Why couldn't they comply with the FTR's like all the other teams. They could have won the league without all this. Whatever happens now will be tarnished with the bending of the rules, thus under minding any success they may achieved. Â How many more people will drift away from the sport because of conspiracies like this. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 Why ? he could score 2 or 3 points more than Johnson that's a like a six point swing. it could make a massive difference in a tight play off matchTotally right Orion" a massive difference certainly away as to be honest Johnson was struggling to compete against his own level a 2 or 3 point total could really sway things.On the subject this is why most fans do not like this rule, Benji no disrespect is not at the age that the rule was designed for it has to be changed next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 Just another example that Fast Track reserves were used to save the EL under the pretence of bringing their careers on. People were always going to manipulate and take adavantage, and we all knew who was most likely..... One rule for one and all that carry on!! Let's face it, it's not the 20th time is it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 And the Speedway Control Bureau about as much use as a chocolate teapot.   That is the start and finish of the whole problem. The Speedway Control Bureau have the sole authority to initiate and enforce the rules so the buck stops with them  It's no good people banging on about Matt Ford or other promoters. When you have a Control Bureau that is not in control all these things are going to happen.. If it's not Matt Ford it will be someone else unless and until the governing body have some teeth to enforce the rules ( which will probably be never).. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointsmeanplayoffs Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 Just checked and they amended the notes on the latest GSA regarding the FTD riders!!!  http://www.speedwaygb.co/14issues/el14_issue24.pdf  It's brilliant, you literally can re-write the rules once you've broken them so that you've no longer broken them!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014   That is the start and finish of the whole problem. The Speedway Control Bureau have the sole authority to initiate and enforce the rules so the buck stops with them  It's no good people banging on about Matt Ford or other promoters. When you have a Control Bureau that is not in control all these things are going to happen.. If it's not Matt Ford it will be someone else unless and until the governing body have some teeth to enforce the rules ( which will probably be never)..  What other promoters...??????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salty Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 Just checked and they amended the notes on the latest GSA regarding the FTD riders!!!  http://www.speedwaygb.co/14issues/el14_issue24.pdf  It's brilliant, you literally can re-write the rules once you've broken them so that you've no longer broken them!! Unbelievable. The word replacement has appeared on the new issue next to guest. Hasn't been there for any of the other 23 issues. Utter disgrace. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 Just checked and they amended the notes on the latest GSA regarding the FTD riders!!!  http://www.speedwaygb.co/14issues/el14_issue24.pdf  It's brilliant, you literally can re-write the rules once you've broken them so that you've no longer broken them!! That's even worse than breaking the rule in the first place. I'm not sure if Dan Greenwood was below the 24 at the time but if he was Swindon didn't have the option earlier in the season! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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