BluPanther Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 What do u reckon a rider gets from a testimonial - 10-15k? Nice sure, but in itself hardly going to set you up for retirement at the age of say 35 is it? How about getting a new job like millions of other people, even bankers don't retire at 35... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 What do u reckon a rider gets from a testimonial - 10-15k? Nice sure, but in itself hardly going to set you up for retirement at the age of say 35 is it? oh I see, you expect us to set him up for life?..and who chose that proffession?..that was a wind up surely???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 oh I see, you expect us to set him up for life?..and who chose that proffession?..that was a wind up surely????That was in response to you saying that surely a testimonial would allow him to support his family? I imsgine most sportspeople, bar those who reach the very top in certain sports, will need to work after retiring from sport. The issue many will have is thst having dedicated themselves to their chosen profession for twenty years, they may have very few skills that directly transfer to a new career. Accordingly, I certainly dont begrudge those who mske good money in their relatively short sporting career, especially in a dangerous sport like speedway. 375k isnt a huge amount for someone nesr the top of their profession to spend on a house surely? As a reference the average house price in auckland is around 300k (when converted to pounds), and I dont think salaries in nz are generslly higher than in the uk. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted February 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 surely a testimonial/farewell is more than sufficient to take care of his family Not even close, say 5,000 fans attended at 15 quid its 'only' 75k plus take away running costs. A speedway riders will always need a regular job after retirement and id guess most wont have a profession or trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 And the house thats registered at was bought in 2011 for 345k. Most of us can only dream of that. Bomber should be dipping into his pocket for us! Really? Thought you'd be a big earner Shaun with your analytical brain??? You & Silver Bee could get four times joint income & a 25% help to buy interest free loan! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philfromcov Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 just wondered if anyone wants to contribute there finances on an open forum? detail what benefits they get from the state? no? thought not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 just wondered if anyone wants to contribute there finances on an open forum? detail what benefits they get from the state? no? thought not Someone touched a nerve? The point being debated here is whether or not a top rate tax paying sportsman should be asking the general public for a few quid. My finances are not being debated because I haven't got my cap out asking others for money. Many professional sportspeople retire having a job to go to because they have considered the fact they will retire one day. Several trades are open to people to train for at a distance/part-time and also sponsors can offer opportunities. They shoudl not, in my view, have the expectation that their sports earnings should keep them fed for the rest of their lives following retirement. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 To be fair to Harris, lots of people on here moan about riders not being pro active in seeking sponsorship. Harris has asked the general public to "sponsor" part of the cost of gp engines. If you don't want to, and I imagine most wont, then just dont. Tbh, harris has almost nil chance of a top 3 spot even with top mschinery, so I can understand a rider nearing the end of his career not wanting a large additional outlay on engines. But if his bikes are too slow I can imagine him copping a hard time on here for that as well. Not even close, say 5,000 fans attended at 15 quid its 'only' 75k plus take away running costs. A speedway riders will always need a regular job after retirement and id guess most wont have a profession or trade.And how many testimonials will attract 5000 people? Likely to be a couple of thousand less, which will include concessions and of course vat needs to be deducted from the ticket price as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philfromcov Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Someone touched a nerve? The point being debated here is whether or not a top rate tax paying sportsman should be asking the general public for a few quid. My finances are not being debated because I haven't got my cap out asking others for money. Many professional sportspeople retire having a job to go to because they have considered the fact they will retire one day. Several trades are open to people to train for at a distance/part-time and also sponsors can offer opportunities. They shoudl not, in my view, have the expectation that their sports earnings should keep them fed for the rest of their lives following retirement. i have no intention of contributing either, but i still don't see why this is fair game. you appear to saying that as he is effectively asking for a handout then its all right to look deeper into his finances? with that logic i assume its also ok to do the same for anyone attending a food bank then? i have little sympathy for speedway riders, they choose the sport know the length of the career and know the risks, and to expect a 20 year job to support you for the rest of your life is unreasonable.... but still don't see what any of that has to do with his bank balance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 i have no intention of contributing either, but i still don't see why this is fair game. you appear to saying that as he is effectively asking for a handout then its all right to look deeper into his finances? with that logic i assume its also ok to do the same for anyone attending a food bank then? i have little sympathy for speedway riders, they choose the sport know the length of the career and know the risks, and to expect a 20 year job to support you for the rest of your life is unreasonable.... but still don't see what any of that has to do with his bank balance. I never suggested anyone check his business account records as it is a reasonable expectation that any rider of his standing will be earning well in excess of UK average earnings. I agree that this look at his business accounts is not actually necessary to making the same arguments being debated here. However, this is not his personal bank account, it's his business accounts and they are a matter of public record. if anyone has breached personal confidentiality then they should rightly be challenged. My bank account details are personal, as are those of anyone else and are not a matter of public record so cannot be compared. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Any news on if Fisher and Harris are having testimonials this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted February 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Any news on if Fisher and Harris are having testimonials this year? Harris is definitely having one, the club have mentioned it but no date been set. Not sure on Fisher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 2014 Bees Chris Harris and Kyle Howarth, and Bees asset Ben Barker, feature in Great Britain boss Alun Rossiter's team to face the Rest of the World in the Ben Fund Bonanza at Leicester on Sunday March 9.World Champion Tai Woffinden leads the side, which also includes Danny King, Craig Cook, Lewis Bridger and Richie Worrall . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 8-man teams is definitely the way forward!!!!!!!!! .....and probably the only way Team GB will win?! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 8-man teams is definitely the way forward!!!!!!!!! .....and probably the only way Team GB will win?! It's not about quantity - it's about quality - something we sadly lack currently as a speedway nation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 It's not about quantity - it's about quality - something we sadly lack currently as a speedway nation. Yep, and even if Rosco fields an 8 man team that won't help. we lack International quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Yep, and even if Rosco fields an 8 man team that won't help. we lack International quality. Ahh but still better than Sweden if you consider GP riders - we have one qualifier in the world champ whereas they have none, only a couple of wildcards. Let's be optimistic. Considering they have a league which many people class as a high standard one, they don't seem to be developing much emerging talent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Yep, and even if Rosco fields an 8 man team that won't help. we lack International quality. Yeah because Sweden the USA, Latvia and Russia have so much they dont know what to do with it? TBH with 8 mans teams I think the Aussies would struggle too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted February 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Yeah because Sweden the USA, Latvia and Russia have so much they dont know what to do with it? TBH with 8 mans teams I think the Aussies would struggle too. Poland and Denmark would be far above the rest, Australia's strength in depth isnt that great. GB would be better than Sweden, Usa Czech Rep and Latvia for sure with 8 man sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 8-man teams is definitely the way forward!!!!!!!!! .....and probably the only way Team GB will win?! Just to be clear, this was a LOL comment!! Barker is the meeting reserve!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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