speedybee Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Nice to have a fixture list that looks full rather than the last two seasons with all those ridiculous gaps in it. Riding some teams twice and others once was a joke. 'Had' in unexpected positivity shocker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Question. The Bees first meeting is away at Swindon 3rd April. That will be a fixture change surely with the Auckland SGP 2 day later. No Harris for the 1st meeting would be ridiculous wouldn't it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Question. The Bees first meeting is away at Swindon 3rd April. That will be a fixture change surely with the Auckland SGP 2 day later. No Harris for the 1st meeting would be ridiculous wouldn't it? Not if you're a Swindon fan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Question. The Bees first meeting is away at Swindon 3rd April. That will be a fixture change surely with the Auckland SGP 2 day later. No Harris for the 1st meeting would be ridiculous wouldn't it? Wouldn't Batch also be required out in NZ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Wouldn't Batch also be required out in NZ?? Why's that then? Last time I looked he wasn't in the SGPs and reserves are usually selected locally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Why's that then? Last time I looked he wasn't in the SGPs and reserves are usually selected locally Got to be in with a shout of the wildcard though as can't give that to Bunyon again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Who came up with the fixture list. I thought it was meant to be sorted so that riders missed as little meetings as possible. Coventry will hardly see Garrity and rarely seem to have a full team April 3rd Swindon (No Harris) 9th Birmingham (Full Team) 11th King's Lynn (No Howarth) 18th Leicester (Full Team) 19th Leicester (No Howarth) May 3rd Lakeside (Full team) 5th Lakeside (Full team) 7th King's Lynn (TBC) 9th Swindon (No Howarth) 17th Eastbourne (No Garrity, Howarth) 19th Wolves (Full team) 21st Poole (Full team) 23rd Eastbourne (Full team) 26th Birmingham (Full team) June 6th Wolverhampton (No Howarth) 13th Belle Vue (No Harris?, Zagar?, Cook, Howarth) 20th Poole (No Garrity, Josh) 26th Swindon (No Garrity) 27th King's Lynn (No Harris? NKI?) July 2nd King's Lynn (TBC) 4th Swindon (No Howarth, Worrall) 7th Wolverhampton (Full team) 16th Poole (Full team) 18th Belle Vue (No Garrity, Howarth, Cook) Aug 8th Wolverhampton (No Garrity) 11th Belle Vue (Full team) 13th Birmingham (Full team) 15th Birmingham (No Harris?, Garrity, Barker, Kennett) 16th Eastbourne (No harris, Garrity, Howarth) 22nd Lakeside (No Howarth) 23rd Lakeside (Full team) 25th Leicester (Full team) 25th Leicester (Full team) Sep 1st Belle Vue (Full team) 5th Poole (Full team) 12th Eastbourne (No Harris) this isn't including Under 21 (Garrity) or GP Challengers 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bees_Man Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 Pathetic. Nothing changes, the sport is a shambles. Howarth hardly riding at home from the look of things. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted January 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 Some of these fixtures are bound to change, I really dont see us riding many gp weekends when the Storm could fill those dates. Its a problem being a Friday night track. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 (edited) How do fans think these dates are going to change that much as most teams rent the tracks & are limited on what race night they can have?. It's amazing looking through the various team threads just how many riders are going to be missing at most meetings. Bloody ridiculous & what a season R/R is going to have. Edited January 18, 2014 by Crazy robin 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houdi Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 How do fans think these dates are going to change that much as most teams rent the tracks & are limited on what race night they can have?. It's amazing looking through the various team threads just how many riders are going to be missing at most meetings. Bloody ridiculous & what a season R/R is going to have. At this rate it won't be long before R/R gets a proper average, I wonder if we can get a guest for when R/R is not available. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 Why's that then? Last time I looked he wasn't in the SGPs and reserves are usually selected locally because I thought he is the first series reserve and there is always a chance that one of the top riders may not be fit or may get injured beforehand?! Also as its the last NZ GP under the current deal and its being heavily rumoured that an Aussie round might be added, then Batch may get the wild card nomination!? Just surmising really...! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john birch Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) I've said it before and i'll say it again - the doubling up rule is destroying British speedway. No British riders will go full time Elite League anymore(Tai the only one of note since Danny King but the moral of that is lost on messrs Cook and R.Worrall). And it's a complete nightmare supporting a Friday night track when up to 8 PL sides can be in action on a Friday. Belle Vue without Craig Cook is just a joke. And i'll be joining Barker and Kennett in missing one of the Brummies matches at Brandon. And perhaps signing Howarth wasn't so wise given like Garrity he rides for a Saturday night track though in principle i'm still looking forward to him riding for Bees. Doubling up should be capped at one with an alternate like it used to be. Edited January 22, 2014 by tiberon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 I've said it before and i'll say it again - the doubling up rule is destroying British speedway. No British riders will go full time Elite League anymore(Tai the only one of note since Danny King but the moral of that is lost on messrs Cook and R.Worrall). And it's a complete nightmare supporting a Friday night track when up to 8 PL sides can be in action on a Friday. Belle Vue without Craig Cook is just a joke. And i'll be joining Barker and Kennett in missing one of the Brummies matches at Brandon. And perhaps signing Howarth wasn't so wise given like Garrity he rides for a Saturday night track though in principle i'm still looking forward to him riding for Bees. Doubling up should be capped at one with an alternate like it used to be. British riders cant survive in just one league and the openings abroad seem limited. The answer has to be moving up to EL and contract abroad. Staying in the PL stifles any ambition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 It does but while riders can pick up good money in the PL they will continue to do it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 British riders cant survive in just one league and the openings abroad seem limited. The answer has to be moving up to EL and contract abroad. Staying in the PL stifles any ambition. Nonsense. No-one is forcing them to be full-time speedway riders, or to have big vans etc. That's their choice but the income/cost ratio can be made larger if they want to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 Nonsense. No-one is forcing them to be full-time speedway riders, or to have big vans etc. That's their choice but the income/cost ratio can be made larger if they want to. So you are basically saying that British riders shouldn't have the ambition to be full time riders??? Surely that is the dream for every sportsman?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 Riders should not be allowed to double up for more than two years. If they are good enough they move up. If they are not they ride PL only. Riders choose to ride both as an income but it messes up teams and fans don't like it. It also stifles a riders progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 Riders should not be allowed to double up for more than two years. If they are good enough they move up. If they are not they ride PL only. Riders choose to ride both as an income but it messes up teams and fans don't like it. It also stifles a riders progress. I agree Steve. Riders lack real ambition to move and on in their career. Clubs need tie ins with Swedish/Polish/Danish clubs to ensure that when riders are ready for a full time move up that they get opportunities to impress abroad too. It is clear most riders with ambition cannot make one league pay. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 Riders should not be allowed to double up for more than two years. If they are good enough they move up. If they are not they ride PL only. Riders choose to ride both as an income but it messes up teams and fans don't like it. It also stifles a riders progress. It hasn't stifled Jason Doyle's progress though and I think he has been doubling up for many seasons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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