kingbee Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 Yes really. How can he be in a position to know whos available, what Hortons budget is, whether riders would come to ride for him given previous goings on or for him given what seems to be poor man management skills he seems to possess. It is all pie in the sky as are all team predictions or riders wanted in the team by us. i don't think you and a couple of your mates have said any thing decent about the Bees for quite a while now. But don't forget there are a lot of fans that do not post on here so don't speak for all fans because there is quite a few going on attendances this season and the majority don't post on here 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADGER69 Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 (edited) i don't think you and a couple of your mates have said any thing decent about the Bees for quite a while now. But don't forget there are a lot of fans that do not post on here so don't speak for all fans because there is quite a few going on attendances this season and the majority don't post on here Genuinely what posatives can you take from this season. Please explain I agree there are lots of fans who do not post on here are you sure they are happy with the current position of the Bees Edited September 30, 2013 by badger1969 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingbee Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 Genuinely what posatives can you take from this season. Please explain I agree there are lots of fans who do not post on here are you sure they are happy with the current position of the Bees Im not sure that all the fans are happy no but at least they turn up for there fix of speedway.Watching speedway is what I go for and have done for many many years .we have not allways had the best teams but we go to watch speedway through the young /Boocock/Olsen/ Knutson /Tatum /Andersson /Hancock we have had some great teams and some crap ones. The trouble today is if the team isn't winning certain fans are not happy that is there opinion but let's enjoy speedway while we have it because you may not have it for much longer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naffer Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 I am sure all bees fans want the same thing a team to reach the final four. I thought in 2012 the team he assembled was nearly there, a good top four ,but it seemed to lose its way after that I always thought maybe rather generously that a terrific 4 point unknown star turned us down and we got bager instead. This year to be fair was a lash up I think mr Horton has done ok in other aspects like bringing in the storm and changing the start time . Sure he has made mistakes along the way but my patience will last one more year he has to put out a winning septet next year whatever shape the elite league takes otherwise I can see the crowds at Brandon falling. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted September 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 (edited) Genuinely what posatives can you take from this season. Please explain I agree there are lots of fans who do not post on here are you sure they are happy with the current position of the Bees Financially sound, good promotional work, decent crowds and Coventry Storm. Negatives was obviously finishing bottom. Its not a crisis at Coventry despite what a few people say. As i said earlier though its a big 2014 for the promotion even i wont defend them if its another poor season. Long as we are in the play off hunt i will be happy, i think Horton has learned a lot about team building in 2013 and would expect an improvement. I am sure all bees fans want the same thing a team to reach the final four. I thought in 2012 the team he assembled was nearly there, a good top four ,but it seemed to lose its way after that I always thought maybe rather generously that a terrific 4 point unknown star turned us down and we got bager instead. This year to be fair was a lash up I think mr Horton has done ok in other aspects like bringing in the storm and changing the start time . Sure he has made mistakes along the way but my patience will last one more year he has to put out a winning septet next year whatever shape the elite league takes otherwise I can see the crowds at Brandon falling. Totally agree with this post! Edited September 30, 2013 by woz01 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Ridgeon Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 Sorry to poke my nose in on this thread but if I were a Bees fan I'd be pig sick of my team manager's fawning over another club on twitter. The odd congratulatory tweet is fine but Havelock is disgustingly over the top. How is this man truly committed to the club that pays his wages? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADGER69 Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 Im not sure that all the fans are happy no but at least they turn up for there fix of speedway.Watching speedway is what I go for and have done for many many years .we have not allways had the best teams but we go to watch speedway through the young /Boocock/Olsen/ Knutson /Tatum /Andersson /Hancock we have had some great teams and some crap ones. The trouble today is if the team isn't winning certain fans are not happy that is there opinion but let's enjoy speedway while we have it because you may not have it for much longer Yes i can remember those halcyon days when there was more fans on the back straight than there is in the stadium today. Parking in the fields. Unfortunatly those days are long gone apart from maybe Poole. If you promote any sport and you finish bottom you should expect critism. If you can not stand the heat get out of the kitchen And just to clear some misconception up I have no mates on here and there is no Mafia trying to get Mick apart from those that blindly defend his actions. Lets just hope we are not posting this at the end of 2014 because no doubt we will be to blame for that due to our socalled negative remarks 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSmiler Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 (edited) Is this pairs meeting on Friday the excuse for the 16 meetings for season ticket holders? Don't think it is but I'm not sure? Still a bit disgusting that Horton has sold a false product to the season ticket holders. Surely that's near enough a legal requirement to fulfil? On another note - I'm appalled from our so called "team manager", absolutely unacceptable tweets from him and his very obvious love for Poole. Pull your finger out Mick Horton, that is not acceptable. Give Nicholls a whirl at manager, even if it also means he's riding in the team? Didn't Chris Louis do that at Ipswich once? At least this way we'd have a passionate manager and Scott could retire at any time and carry on managing the team..... Edited October 1, 2013 by Adam Vickers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted October 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 (edited) Is this pairs meeting on Friday the excuse for the 16 meetings for season ticket holders? Don't think it is but I'm not sure? Still a bit disgusting that Horton has sold a false product to the season ticket holders. Surely that's near enough a legal requirement to fulfil? On another note - I'm appalled from our so called "team manager", absolutely unacceptable tweets from him and his very obvious love for Poole. Pull your finger out Mick Horton, that is not acceptable. Give Nicholls a whirl at manager, even if it also means he's riding in the team? Didn't Chris Louis do that at Ipswich once? At least this way we'd have a passionate manager and Scott could retire at any time and carry on managing the team..... Id hope the Brandonapolis will be free for the season ticket holders but im not sure if that will happen. Poole are holding Havvys farewell meeting so no surprise really! Doesnt make it right though, he should be talking about being fired up for 2014 and hoping the Bees get there! Edited October 1, 2013 by woz01 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 (edited) ....Adam Vickers....Is this pairs meeting on Friday the excuse for the 16 meetings for season ticket holders? Don't think it is but I'm not sure? Still a bit disgusting that Horton has sold a false product to the season ticket holders. Surely that's near enough a legal requirement to fulfil? Yes, terrible. I think they should all sue him. ....woz01...... Doesnt make it right though, he should be talking about being fired up for 2014 and hoping the Bees get there! Hopefully he shouldn't be talking that at all as I'm keeping my fingers crossed we've seen the last of him. Edited October 1, 2013 by Gemini 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philfromcov Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 after three season of the season ending in late august something has to be done. the teams that are holding the league to ransom (eastbourne, kings lynn?) should drop down. if its true its going to be a big league then no room for teams that cant get the current tiny season in at home. Also no sky means we can have a season that ends in october and not in august. speedway needs every penny it can get, because of the contracted season and no KOC/craven sheild, how many fans alone has coventry lost this season through the turnstiles, probaly 4 home meetings, at least 1 KOC and probably at least 2 craven shield meetings, that's something like 17000 regulars that didn't get an opportunity to pay £17, alot of money, yes i know very little is profit but what business would willingly chuck that away? thats more revenue than the sky money. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADGER69 Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 With the problems at Perry Bar what about Phil Morris as team manager 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philfromcov Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 With the problems at Perry Bar what about Phil Morris as team manager would need a change in promotion first.... oh hang on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 As we don't know the format for next year it's a bit of a reasonable wish list at this stage, but here's some riders I'd like to see. If not in the GPs I'd like AJ back to spearhead the team. Harris as a second heat leader, not a number one. Testimonial year so a good bet. Zengi, like the lad. Needs to improve away but dialled in at home. Craig Cook. Improving all season. Kozza Smith Lewis Kerr Richie Worrall Riders I don't want, well there's a long list but these are top (nothing personal ) Holder Watt Ward KK Olly Allen Stuart Robson The saucepan brothers Henning Bager Ben barker Adam Roynan Nick Morris Morton Risager Magnus zetterstorm Drymel brothers Seb ulemek Bjarne pederson Lewis Bridger Ryan fisher Eddie kennett Gosh I didn't realise how many there are! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 Sorry to poke my nose in on this thread but if I were a Bees fan I'd be pig sick of my team manager's fawning over another club on twitter. The odd congratulatory tweet is fine but Havelock is disgustingly over the top. How is this man truly committed to the club that pays his wages? Think I agree with that . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted October 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 The Bees v Leicester double header should appease season ticket holders. Cracking idea and on a Sunday too. KK rides for Leicester a sign for next season? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 The Bees v Leicester double header should appease season ticket holders. Cracking idea and on a Sunday too. KK rides for Leicester a sign for next season? Not if Leicester stick with Sat/Sun home meetings it won't be!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted October 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 Not if Leicester stick with Sat/Sun home meetings it won't be!! Rumours a few weeks back he has signed for Leicester next season if they make the step up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 Thank goodness for that. Let them suffer this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.N.T. Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 If there are say 12 teams in the EL next season and a much lower points limit (36 - 38 possibly) then there has to be a question on riders like Aaron Summers, Adam Roynon etc as to which league they will be riding in. Can riders still double up as there are likely to be more fixture clashes if there are 22 home and 22 away meetings. That said, in Scott Nicholls as possible rider/manager/pundit they have a rider committed to riding in British Speedway and in a weaker league you may see more of the old Scott and if they can get Linus Sundstrom or Chris Harris back to spearhead the team ..... possibly both then Bees would have to build their tail end with the likes of Summers and possibly a gamble on Nicolai Klindt and two 3.00 reserves. It may look weak, but so will all other teams as there looks to be drastic cuts and current heat leaders replaced by reserves. EXAMPLES ONLY BEES; Sundstrom, Nicholls, Harris, Summers, Klindt, Roynon, Sarjeant. WOLVES; Woffinden, Skornicki, Proctor, Wells, Thorssell, Aspgren, Morris SWINDON; Batchelor, Doyle, Morris, Stead, Howarth, Birks, 3.00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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