Coventry Bees 2014

[EnglishRoundabout]

Somerset is the best Prem lge track English, but i think crazyb was referring to Elite lge tracks...

My error in my haste to have my say!

Except they are not in the EL

 

Well there you go - Poole "Sky Sports" Pirates - confirming what we knew already

 

Ahhh....but maybe 2014!

[BluPanther]

My error in my haste to have my say!

Take your time English, your always good for a read..

[Woz01]

I think there was only one Sky meeting at Brandon in 2013?

[philfromcov]

so using the 7 meetings at home out of 27.

Half the available funds is split between the teams, so £40k each.

then 7/27 is 26% of the compensation funds.

 

so if you do the maths (i do apologize i was slightly out earlier) Poole received 18% of the sky money.

 

we can get back to the bees now i think the point has been proved me lord!

[hans fan]

so using the 7 meetings at home out of 27.

Half the available funds is split between the teams, so £40k each.

then 7/27 is 26% of the compensation funds.

 

so if you do the maths (i do apologize i was slightly out earlier) Poole received 18% of the sky money.

 

we can get back to the bees now i think the point has been proved me lord!

maths not your strong point , I don't know what you think the home promoter gets for being on sky but it's pittance

[Humphrey Appleby]

Starting at £1M per annum with the first 20% going to TR.

A certain amount was then put aside for staging club's 'compensation' (how much?).

The rest of the bulk was split eleven ways with each EL club getting an equal share and the whole PL sharing the eleventh slice.

Is this about right?

This is a pure guesstimate...

 

I recall a promoter saying each BEL team got something like 50K per year, and I've a recollection that a share went to the BPL as well. So that would suggest a total of about 550K per year, leaving 250K for compensation payments.

 

There are what, 30 matches televised each season, which potentially means 8K could be available per match. I'm not sure whether that's split evenly between the two teams, more to the home team, or just to the home team.

[Midland Red]

I thought this thread was "COVENTRY BEES 2014" ?

[philfromcov]

the cost or lack of is directly proportional to the sky money, hence why it is on the thread.

if sky is lost it will not have a great effect on us as poole, thats the point, why do you think they can afford greg hancock and we cant? are crowds are bigger

[Dave Jones]

the cost or lack of is directly proportional to the sky money, hence why it is on the thread.

if sky is lost it will not have a great effect on us as poole, thats the point, why do you think they can afford greg hancock and we cant? are crowds are bigger

 

the cost or lack of is directly proportional to the sky money, hence why it is on the thread.

if sky is lost it will not have a great effect on us as poole, thats the point, why do you think they can afford greg hancock and we cant? are crowds are bigger

 

Is it because Ford's arms are longer than Horton's?

[dj350z]

No!

[Dave Jones]

No!

 

Thanks for your considered and well thought out reply.

 

It was just that when the bees had the chance to strengthen up mid season , we were told by Horton that there were no riders out there that wanted to ride in the UK.

Just at that time other clubs started introducing new riders into their teams, while we got Allen, Robbo,Screen,etc.

Seems to suggest to me that money was an issue.

[*JJ]

It was just that when the bees had the chance to strengthen up mid season , we were told by Horton that there were no riders out there that wanted to ride in the UK.

Just at that time other clubs started introducing new riders into their teams, while we got Allen, Robbo,Screen,etc.

Seems to suggest to me that money was an issue.

Perhaps Horton simply couldn't afford the rumoured £500 per point Hancock got from Poole?

[Woz01]

 

Thanks for your considered and well thought out reply.

 

It was just that when the bees had the chance to strengthen up mid season , we were told by Horton that there were no riders out there that wanted to ride in the UK.

Just at that time other clubs started introducing new riders into their teams, while we got Allen, Robbo,Screen,etc.

Seems to suggest to me that money was an issue.

Money was an issue, we were owed a lot in loan fees (allegedly) and didnt get a transfer fee that was ordered. When budgeting for the season and not getting whats due to you there isnt much you can do.

[AndyJ]

Perhaps Horton simply couldn't afford the rumoured £500 per point Hancock got from Poole?

 

£500 per point? Scoring 14pts = £7,000 = over 500 adult fans.

Is this more Chinese Whisper than rumour?

[Dave Jones]

Perhaps Horton simply couldn't afford the rumoured £500 per point Hancock got from Poole?

 

The season went wrong for the bees much earlier than that. Horton failed to strengthen up when he had the space to do so .

Not getting Greg isn't the issue.

Edited November 7, 2013 by Dave Jones

[Woz01]

 

£500 per point? Scoring 14pts = £7,000 = over 500 adult fans.

Is this more Chinese Whisper than rumour?

Sponsors perhaps. I understand the club dont pay Holders fee sponsors do so I suppose they could have took over Hancocks wages.

[crazyb]

Second best..Somerset is better...

Didn't know Somerset were in the EL

[philfromcov]

Depending o the many calculations on here its reasonable to assume that at a minimum Poole were getting twice the money from SKY as most teams and could be as much as three times.

 

The issue around bees strengthening, i would like to know (because we all knew the team was a shocker in april) could we not change the team, because either we were running to a strict budget or that the budget was much smaller than anticipated because teams like Birmingham hadn't paid a) transfer fee loan fee c)the agreed proportion of the away teams wages?

 

Certainly you wouldn't want to do business with Birmingham again, unless you get money up front

[Dave Jones]

Depending o the many calculations on here its reasonable to assume that at a minimum Poole were getting twice the money from SKY as most teams and could be as much as three times.

 

The issue around bees strengthening, i would like to know (because we all knew the team was a shocker in april) could we not change the team, because either we were running to a strict budget or that the budget was much smaller than anticipated because teams like Birmingham hadn't paid a) transfer fee loan fee c)the agreed proportion of the away teams wages?

 

Certainly you wouldn't want to do business with Birmingham again, unless you get money up front

 

Phil,

 

You are right, it would be nice to hear the truth. The only thing we do know is that Horton told us that the riders were not out there, they were as we saw when other clubs bought them into their teams.

[SteveLyric2]

Depending o the many calculations on here its reasonable to assume that at a minimum Poole were getting twice the money from SKY as most teams and could be as much as three times.

 

The issue around bees strengthening, i would like to know (because we all knew the team was a shocker in april) could we not change the team, because either we were running to a strict budget or that the budget was much smaller than anticipated because teams like Birmingham hadn't paid a) transfer fee loan fee c)the agreed proportion of the away teams wages?

 

Certainly you wouldn't want to do business with Birmingham again, unless you get money up front

I thought it was pretty well documented that all EL clubs received around £90k/£100k from Sky as a 'flat fee'. Plus each home club received an additional fee for a televised meeting, between £5k and £10k, which was originally agreed to help offset any fall-off in attendance.

Whatever everyone's thoughts/bias towards their own club, presumably Sky selected the meetings that would expect to attract the best audience?!

 

If Sky chose not to cover Bees (or any other club) meetings then it presumably reflected that team's league position and opponents at that time!

Edited November 8, 2013 by Skidder1