Popular Post Irk Deflector Posted November 27, 2013 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 In a watered down League Cook will hit 9 Nicholls 8 and Worral 7.5. That's a hellva foundation the Aces management have put downWatered down - would that be the league or just one bend? 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 In a watered down League Cook will hit 9 Nicholls 8 and Worral 7.5. That's a hellva foundation the Aces management have put down If rumours are to be believed it won't be watered down for heat leaders in fact it will be more difficult if they don't face reserves. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 Watered down - would that be the league or just one bend? HAD to laugh... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedraid Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 Watered down - would that be the league or just one bend? Nice one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 So With No Freddie an no Holder, that's just so far, it's not a watered down League. ? Not to mention 2 National League riders in the 1-7. Throw in the ever increasing R/R. The gap between the 2 Leagues has never been so close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 So With No Freddie an no Holder, that's just so far, it's not a watered down League. ? Not to mention 2 National League riders in the 1-7. Throw in the ever increasing R/R. The gap between the 2 Leagues has never been so close. Yet not one PL side would get close to an EL side however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skthecat Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 Yet not one PL side would get close to an EL side however. No Fast Freddie, Noddy Holder, apart from those two, which other "big names" will be missing in 2014........? Or will it just be the mediocre, yet familiar foreigners that won't be in track.....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TesarRacing Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 Yeah, I don't buy this watered down league bit! Supporters of all EL teams are stating the same so surely it evens itself doesn't it? A 7.5 ave rider in 2013 suddenly becoming a 9 pointer next season - ain't gonna happen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 Yet not one PL side would get close to an EL side however. Where in my post did I say they would get close, I said the gap is closer now that ever before or do you disagree with that ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy jimmy Posted November 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 Where in my post did I say they would get close, I said the gap is closer now that ever before or do you disagree with that ? it is closer, but again, is that really a bad thing right now? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 Personally I think some of the potential 1-5s look better than last year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 (edited) If British Speedway cannot afford the big boys riding over here, then yes, for me, that is the way to go. The Premier League is good quaility, as was proven by the likes of Cook, Worral, Barker, Doyle, and a good few others who doubled up last season. The problem c ould be with a self governing sport, as Speedway is, can anyone really see Promotion and relegation being permitted ? Note Sorry Belle Vue fans I have taken this thread miles of track... I will leave it there Edited November 28, 2013 by semion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 No Fast Freddie, Noddy Holder, apart from those two, which other "big names" will be missing in 2014........? Or will it just be the mediocre, yet familiar foreigners that won't be in track.....? Time will tell if anyone else will be missing. Where in my post did I say they would get close, I said the gap is closer now that ever before or do you disagree with that ? You didn't, i did. I suppose by taking out a couple of GP boys in theory the league is weaker - however my point remains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
500cc Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 (edited) Personally I think some of the potential 1-5s look better than last year There is a misconception that from a team building perspective that the points limit has been radically cut by 4.5 points, when actually in reality it's been reduced by less than 2 points (about 1.75). So to an extent some teams may well look better. From a points building exercise, then Belle Vue appear to be a definite improvement as the points limit reduction has had no impact on them. Edited because as SteveO pointed out it to say it was not cut but it was reduced was illogical. I meant to say the reduction isn't as large as the headline figures. Edited November 28, 2013 by 500cc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 There is a misconception that from a team building perspective that the points limit has been cut, when actually in reality it's been reduced by less than 2 points. So to an extent some teams may well look better. From a points building exercise, then Belle Vue appear to be a definite improvement as the points limit reduction has had no impact on them. There's no misconception - its been cut! Whether it is 1 point, 2 points or more - it's still a cut! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy jimmy Posted November 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 If there are fewer GP riders in the 2014 season it is not the points limit, it is the 36 match programme and the money on offer to complete it. 28 matches were too many for most GP stars, so 36 may tip others over the edge, as it has Lindgren and more importantly Holder. The squad system must be around the corner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
500cc Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 There's no misconception - its been cut! Whether it is 1 point, 2 points or more - it's still a cut! Guilty. That's what happen's when you race off to eat. Meant to say the reduction wasn't as large as being portrayed. Updated my original post and referenced your comment. Still will get disagreements I'm sure, but at least I've corrected it to say what I meant to say !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.V 72 Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 Could anyone tell me did Belle vue sell Garrity to Rye house or is he still an asset ?.Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 DON'T know whether any money changed hands but they certainly didn't part on the best of terms. Quite a few bridges would need to be mended for Garrity and BV to be re-united but if they can each put their differences to one side it might be worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
500cc Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 DON'T know whether any money changed hands but they certainly didn't part on the best of terms. Quite a few bridges would need to be mended for Garrity and BV to be re-united but if they can each put their differences to one side it might be worth it. Does raise an interesting question re-allocation and/or drafting in terms of both the rider and club being happy with the agreement. In most cases I'm sure any conflicting assignments can be managed, but it is a further "parameter" that will need including in the process. Assuming the "lead" reserve is allocated first, the difficulty may be related to the second reserve as it's important to balance the equality at that point. Any issues are more likely to be related to location or race nights as opposed to existing conflicts I'd assume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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