Alan_Jones Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 This may have been asked but what is to stop a new promoter running a team at the showground without buying anything of Frost. Surely all that's required is a promoters licence Frost owns the licence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishRoundabout Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 I hate to say it but to be brutally honest, I can't see there being any speedway at the EOES next season. That includes PL, NL or open meetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pantherman Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 I hate to say it but to be brutally honest, I can't see there being any speedway at the EOES next season. That includes PL, NL or open meetings. I think you are right, the BSPA are going full steam ahead sorting out cup draws etc, I can't see where Panthers can fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMungo Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 I think you are right, the BSPA are going full steam ahead sorting out cup draws etc, I can't see where Panthers can fit. In 2003, King's Lynn were a late entrance to the Premier League. By that time, the cup draws had already been done. Workington (I think it was) sacrificed their bye into round 2 to match up against King's Lynn in the 1st round with the winner going through. Pretty sure it was KL who went through in the end. Hopefully something similar to that will happen next season if Pboro can return. EOES is far too good of a venue to lose. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 I think you are right, the BSPA are going full steam ahead sorting out cup draws etc, I can't see where Panthers can fit. They'd be very welcome as a replacement for one of the silly extra league matches and could easily be accommodated in the League Cup and KO Cup. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 I hate to say it but to be brutally honest, I can't see there being any speedway at the EOES next season. That includes PL, NL or open meetings. Negotiations are still taking place, its just the silence that gives people negative thoughts.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishRoundabout Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 Hope you are right. disastrous that the best track in the EL may be missing in 2014. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 Frost owns the licence. For Peterborough Panthers yes, but surely a new promoter could come in under a new club name as Frost has no say of stadium use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 For Peterborough Panthers yes, but surely a new promoter could come in under a new club name as Frost has no say of stadium use? ...but the BSPA have the final word on league membership and there is only one licence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 ...but the BSPA have the final word on league membership and there is only one licence. And Rick Frost currently holds it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 ...but the BSPA have the final word on league membership and there is only one licence. 1 licence for what? Boston ran from King's Lynn under a different promotion. Dudley run out of Wolves under a different promotion (I think). With the right person this could be done and Frost has no say, I'm quite sure the BSPA couldn't really care less about Frost's opinion anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 Wasn't late 90s was it (to be pedantic)? First argument was vehicle access I seem to recall? Andrew Mercer, chief executive of East of England Agricultural Society, which runs the showground, said: We rely on all our showground users to arrange proper facilities for their visitors. The agreement signed by Panthers on March 13 2001 clearly states the area of the showground they can use and where cars can be parked. They signed the agreement. We have not heard from Panthers that there is a problem, and we did offer them the use of the staff car park inside the showground, which is about 250 yards from the grandstand, but, for whatever reason, they declined. That's when the problems started. At the time of the Lynch, Horton bust ups in 2002 we had an Elite League side and The Pumas. From about 2003 dates started to disappear? If there really is any interest out there then anyone who is influenced by Swann's World of Sport is a sandwich short and shouldn't be bidding anyway. The trouble started late 90,s and just got worse season on season, Ian Jarvis always said Mercer was the problem but Mercers sidekick was just as bad. Well maybe, but the Hortons seemed to get into conflict with all the stadium bosses they came into contact with. Seemed to be a bit of a track record with them... Indeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary moore Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 I think you are right, the BSPA are going full steam ahead sorting out cup draws etc, I can't see where Panthers can fit. if that is the case,thats it for the Panthers for good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 (edited) The trouble started late 90,s and just got worse season on season, Ian Jarvis always said Mercer was the problem but Mercers sidekick was just as bad. Indeed Fair enough. I was only going by what was in the public domain which is notoriously unreliable. Negotiations are still taking place, its just the silence that gives people negative thoughts.. Hasn't that been the problem for 5 years? Edited December 2, 2013 by Crump99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Fair enough. I was only going by what was in the public domain which is notoriously unreliable. Hasn't that been the problem for 5 years? In a nutshell, yes, your dead right.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary moore Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Fair enough. I was only going by what was in the public domain which is notoriously unreliable. Hasn't that been the problem for 5 years? Yep,I think Frost didnt give a toss about the supporters TBH? Just a toy for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TesarRacing Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 (edited) Yep,I think Frost didnt give a toss about the supporters TBH? Just a toy for him. Maybe a bit harsh but it is one of the reasons I don't like wealthy benefactors coming in to run speedway teams. It is all very well having owners that can absorb big losses but how do you get someone new to take over when the novelty wears out or the money gets tight. Edited December 2, 2013 by TesarRacing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudflaps Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Just seen this - be interesting to find out how much Rene Back cost the Comets? Premier League side Workington have made popular Dane Rene Bach a full asset of the club and confirmed he will spend another season at Derwent Park. Bach, who has been with the club since 2012, joins from Peterborough after the two parties agreed a deal following discussions before the sports AGM earlier in the month. “We had enquired about purchasing Rene from Peterborough prior to the last weekend’s AGM and we are pleased that we were able to conclude the deal with them. http://www.speedway365.com/bach-joins-comets-on-full-transfer/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Maybe a bit harsh but it is one of the reasons I don't like wealthy benefactors coming in to run speedway teams. It is all very well having owners that can absorb big losses but how do you get someone new to take over when the novelty wears out or the money gets tight. I'm not sure that the novelty wore of. It has all been very much self inflicted when it should have been success all of the way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 ...........and still this 2014 topic continues in the Elite League section??!!Surely whoever takes over at the EOES it will be at PL or NL level, so come on Mods, please put it somewhere more appropriate!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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