orion Posted September 21, 2013 Report Share Posted September 21, 2013 I know people who were happy with the old rule,and think the double/rule as it is now is a joke.Also my boys mate has watched speedway round ours a few times so he is impartial and he thinks the rule is laughable.So the old tactical rule was far from perfect but a damn site better than this Micky mouse rule we have now. Why was the old rule not a joke ? but somehow the new rule is ? don't just say stuff explain why ...are you telling me that being able to bring in your number one and Two in heat 8 in the old days was not mickey mouse ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted September 21, 2013 Report Share Posted September 21, 2013 The after match press conference has been done at LEICESTER this season, its done from the terrace on the first bend, in a football type mini studio with sponsor board behind... Seems to work very well... Great B-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trebor Posted September 21, 2013 Report Share Posted September 21, 2013 There are many things that need to change to make the sport credible in the eyes of the mainstream media and the easiest and quickest one to scrap is the farcial DOUBLE POINTS RULE. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Why was the old rule not a joke ? but somehow the new rule is ? don't just say stuff explain why ...are you telling me that being able to bring in your number one and Two in heat 8 in the old days was not mickey mouse ? DId you ever see the racing then?so in a way you know no better today's rule is a joke.Sport is supposed to be exciting we no it can be brutal its like Man Utd being 3.0 up cruising oh well we will go down to 8 men give the other team a chance.This rule is farsical when somebody who does not follow the sport tells you that then you have to digest it and listen not that you ever will because you are always right.! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 DId you ever see the racing then?so in a way you know no better today's rule is a joke.Sport is supposed to be exciting we no it can be brutal its like Man Utd being 3.0 up cruising oh well we will go down to 8 men give the other team a chance.This rule is farsical when somebody who does not follow the sport tells you that then you have to digest it and listen not that you ever will because you are always right.! Yet again how that does explain why today rule is a joke and why the old rule was not ...what on earth has the standard of racing have to do with it ? yet again you can't explain yourself . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunRobin Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 I just don't understand how anyone can defend the double points rule, especially after a 10 points deficit. It gives the chance of pulling from 10 points down to 3 in 1 heat. I did not like the tactical substitution either but at least, a team could only pull back 4 points, they were still 6 points down if they gained a 5-1 heat advantage. The only people that really benefit from this rule is television as it may keep neutral viewers interested in a one sided meeting. Let's be honest, most people would love to see their own side winning 60-30 every meeting & with little away support in most meetings, there are very few people at that meeting who want to see the scores falsely adjusted. I think that it is even more of a joke in the World Cup, where surely the best team on the night should win the title! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 I just don't understand how anyone can defend the double points rule, especially after a 10 points deficit. It gives the chance of pulling from 10 points down to 3 in 1 heat. I did not like the tactical substitution either but at least, a team could only pull back 4 points, they were still 6 points down if they gained a 5-1 heat advantage. The only people that really benefit from this rule is television as it may keep neutral viewers interested in a one sided meeting. Let's be honest, most people would love to see their own side winning 60-30 every meeting & with little away support in most meetings, there are very few people at that meeting who want to see the scores falsely adjusted. I think that it is even more of a joke in the World Cup, where surely the best team on the night should win the title! I don't think anyone is defending the double points rule but it's no more mickey mouse than the old rule where you could your top two riders in heat 8 if you wanted and you could only had to be six points down as well ,also overall you could score a lot more points and used it more times as well . Either you are with extra points being scored or your not but the new rule is no more mickey mouse than the old one . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Yet again how that does explain why today rule is a joke and why the old rule was not ...what on earth has the standard of racing have to do with it ? yet again you can't explain yourself . What i am saying they're was not to much wrong with the product then so why change.?As the saying goes if it ent broke so why change.Also you have not seen it from all eras so in my book you are not as qualified as people who have.Dont get me wrong things years ago were not perfect far from it but the outsiders i know looking in think this rule is laughable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 What i am saying they're was not to much wrong with the product then so why change.?As the saying goes if it ent broke so why change.Also you have not seen it from all eras so in my book you are not as qualified as people who have.Dont get me wrong things years ago were not perfect far from it but the outsiders i know looking in think this rule is laughable. Yet again what are you going on about ? you said that the old rule was better than the new rule but when asked you can't give an answer ...ive seen both rules so I plenty qualified unlike you who can't back up anything you say . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Yet again what are you going on about ? you said that the old rule was better than the new rule but when asked you can't give an answer ...ive seen both rules so I plenty qualified unlike you who can't back up anything you say . Are you though i would take whatever you say with a pinch of salt and are you qualified Na stick to watching Eastenders me old mucker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 (edited) Are you though i would take whatever you say with a pinch of salt and are you qualified Na stick to watching Eastenders me old mucker. As normal no answer as you can't ..please don't involved in these subjects again it's way above you . Edited September 22, 2013 by orion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 As normal no answer as you can't ..please don't involved in these subjects again it's way above you . Yes right ! if i ever have to bow down to your words of wisdom i will give up you are totally clueless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Yes right ! if i ever have to bow down to your words of wisdom i will give up you are totally clueless. Well you have already have as you could not give an answer ..you quit and went back to name calling as you always do ..as I said stick to watching the sport rather that try make comment on things that are way above you . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Well you have already have as you could not give an answer ..you quit and went back to name calling as you always do ..as I said stick to watching the sport rather that try make comment on things that are way above you . Name calling? a bit of banter get real dont get so prickly me old mucker.All the SwIndon fans i know are all great people, Hagonshocker a great mate and they're are some really knowledgable people i have learned quite alot from them.You don't come into that category to be brutal you piss me right off sorry to be honest and above me right. If i can't hold my own with likes of you with your limited knowledge i will give up hope you enjoy the meeting tomorrow night.! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Name calling? a bit of banter get real dont get so prickly me old mucker.All the SwIndon fans i know are all great people, Hagonshocker a great mate and they're are some really knowledgable people i have learned quite alot from them.You don't come into that category to be brutal you piss me right off sorry to be honest and above me right. If i can't hold my own with likes of you with your limited knowledge i will give up hope you enjoy the meeting tomorrow night.! As this subject shows you can't that's why you quit rather than debate the subject ...if you have learned about speedway you sure hide it well on here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 As this subject shows you can't that's why you quit rather than debate the subject ...if you have learned about speedway you sure hide it well on here Quit debate? do you know what that word means? , about speedway i would be more than comfortable to debate all day long with you.?Because out of all the Robins fans i know you are by far the least knowledgable person i know brutal but the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 (edited) Yet again what are you going on about ? you said that the old rule was better than the new rule but when asked you can't give an answer ...ive seen both rules so I plenty qualified unlike you who can't back up anything you say . I can back up sidney's point by simply saying that, under the old Rule (which I didn't like either) by saying that at least you could NOT pull back SEVEN Points on the opposition in ONE Race. Wrong, Immoral, Unfair, Unsporting and any other adjective you care to truthfully apply. Oh - and before you ask - I too have seen BOTH versions of the Rule in operation. I hated BOTH of them, the current Double Points Rule the most. Edited September 22, 2013 by The White Knight 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Quit debate? do you know what that word means? , about speedway i would be more than comfortable to debate all day long with you.?Because out of all the Robins fans i know you are by far the least knowledgable person i know brutal but the truth. So why don't can't you give a answer about the question between the old rule and the new rule ...rather than going back to name calling . I can back up sidney's point by simply saying that, under the old Rule (which I didn't like either) by saying that at lease you could NOT pull back SEVEN Points on the opposition in ONE Race. Wrong, Immoral, Unfair, Unsporting and any other adjective you care to truthfully apply. Oh - and before you ask - I too have seen BOTH versions of the Rule in operation. I hated BOTH of them, the current Double Points Rule the most. Sidney needs to back his point himself and he can't at least you try to give a reason ...I would say bringing in your number 1 and number 2 in heat 8 is wrong ,immoral unsporting etc and don't forget under the old rule you score more extra points than you can . now .Also you only had to be 6 behind rather than ten ..the bottom line is no matter how look at it both rules were mickey mouse , 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 So why don't can't you give a answer about the question between the old rule and the new rule ...rather than going back to name calling . Sidney needs to back his point himself and he can't at least you try to give a reason ...I would say bringing in your number 1 and number 2 in heat 8 is wrong ,immoral unsporting etc and don't forget under the old rule you score more extra points than you can . now .Also you only had to be 6 behind rather than ten ..the bottom line is no matter how look at it both rules were mickey mouse , Now THAT is SPOT ON orion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 So why don't can't you give a answer about the question between the old rule and the new rule ...rather than going back to name calling . Sidney needs to back his point himself and he can't at least you try to give a reason ...I would say bringing in your number 1 and number 2 in heat 8 is wrong ,immoral unsporting etc and don't forget under the old rule you score more extra points than you can . now .Also you only had to be 6 behind rather than ten ..the bottom line is no matter how look at it both rules were mickey mouse , You back the new rule yet you say they are both Micky mouse? Baffling i have also said to you that the old rule had its flaws the play offs i am not keen on but are a success so they are here to stay.The double points should go immediately in my view a farce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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