skthecat Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 Sensible answers, and who knows? If we present it to the Promotors before the AGM, we should at least expect an answer on why it cannot be changed if its not changed. Please keep the change concise and sensible and I will collate the answers and get the most wanted change to the right person/s before the AGM. Closing Date of October 31st 2013 So, rule change, from what and what to please, a little explanation of why as well please? Cheers; Never Too Old.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 None. Changing rules will make bugger all difference. The sport needs to sort out its image, it needs to realise it's now 2013 and we're about to get a pretty cool, young World Champion - who is British. Out with hits of the 80s and cheap tat in the track shops. Out with presenters in their 50s and 60s. Get meetings over in 90ish minutes. Have whatever rules they like but most importantly make site they're stuck to. Why a few months into the season do we have some teams on 10 meetings and others on 20? It should be 1 home and 1 away meeting a week +/-1 to allow for northern/southern tours. The sport needs dragging into 2013/2014 kicking and screaming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skthecat Posted September 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 So meetings ridden continuity is high on your agenda? I agree, a team can be top having ridden 7/8 matches and yet the team propping up the league may have ridden 1 if lucky? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 So meetings ridden continuity is high on your agenda? I agree, a team can be top having ridden 7/8 matches and yet the team propping up the league may have ridden 1 if lucky? Its not a huge thing but why should the best team in the league be 4th or 5th due to meetings (not) run? That clubs promoter should be allowed to promote his club as league leaders without the smoke and mirrors stuff. Ordinary people should be able to look at the league table and see who is best. 90% of people don't care about guests or r/r and even less care about who can/can't guest and why/why not. People don't want rules, they don't go as it's £15-17 to stand on crumbling terracing (or a grassy/muddy mound), use toilets that have floors covered in urine after being charge £1 to park in a field full of animal excrement (and their being little or no alternative) to have to spend the night listening to smashy and nicey on the PA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 (edited) Its not a huge thing but why should the best team in the league be 4th or 5th due to meetings (not) run? That clubs promoter should be allowed to promote his club as league leaders without the smoke and mirrors stuff. Ordinary people should be able to look at the league table and see who is best. 90% of people don't care about guests or r/r and even less care about who can/can't guest and why/why not. People don't want rules, they don't go as it's £15-17 to stand on crumbling terracing (or a grassy/muddy mound), use toilets that have floors covered in urine after being charge £1 to park in a field full of animal excrement (and their being little or no alternative) to have to spend the night listening to smashy and nicey on the PA. How long ago is it that you went to a meeting SCB - and where? Edited September 19, 2013 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 How long ago is it that you went to a meeting SCB - and where? Swindon in July this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunRobin Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 Swindon in July this year. We did warn all comers, as to the perils of the back straight "toilets". However, I can't remember piles of animal excrement in the car park, only frustrated drivers trying to exit without any help from stewards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ommer Mon Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 To get back on topic, the rule I would like to get rid of is being able to reinsert riders (off 15 metres) who have been excluded (or whatever today's term is) for touching the tapes or exceeding the two minute time allowance. What is the benefit in that(?) and all it does is extend the meeting (SCB's earlier point)as managers scratch their heads and consult as another 2 mins is allowed. If you are 'out' you should be 'out'and the reserve should take your place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racin Jason 72 Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 Get rid of the tactical rule. It's farcical 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rabbit Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 Whether or not modern music will bring people into speedway (although, once I see the bikes lining up at the tapes for the next heat I've forgotten what was being played anyway) I'll get into the spirit of the thread. When a rider is put out of a match in an incident for which an opponent is exqualified/discluded/whatever the current term is, his rides (including any re-run of the original incident) can be covered by rider replacement. It is so unfair if a team's #1 (for example) is skittled out of a match by an opponent to only allow reserves to cover his rides. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedwaysliders Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 Give the Tapes marshall more power in order to make the riders start in the correct positions,example worn riders with yellow cards as in football and if the rider is still messing about sigle to the ref to exlude the rider.Every one likes a little bit of conflict and tension,so give the tapes marshall a head set with a microphone as well!!The TAPES MARSHALL is such an inportant position i have never understood why there is not a pool of PAID TAPES MARSHALLS INSTEAD OF VOLUNTARY ONES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDuke Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 Agree with SCB the sport needs dragging into the 21st Century! As for rules - well how about a simplified "rule" book that everyone can see (including us fans) that is clear, concise & is applied to everyone in fair & equitable manner. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob tatum Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 The sport needs a major clear out & quick. Get a figure head rickardson ,crump ? & a person with vision & good business sense & let's start again with a blank page & sort out this sorry fiasco ,mess ,amateurish shambles. Sorry I would throw the joke book sorry rule book away & start again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 Swindon in July this year. Aah, that explains it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREDON Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 The double point tacticalsubstitute for starters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangerBoy Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 Stop these restarts when a rider gets a flyer. as long as the tapes are not touched good luck to him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishRoundabout Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 Stop these restarts when a rider gets a flyer. as long as the tapes are not touched good luck to him. And the rider isn't rolling..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandorum Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 I would like to see the return of the green helmet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandorum Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 I would like to see the return of the grreen helmet as I think that is the reason the crowds have dropped these last few years. And yes you may indeed detect sarcasm. It's just when I see rule change in speedway by public vote I fall over laughing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple.H. Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 Whether or not modern music will bring people into speedway (although, once I see the bikes lining up at the tapes for the next heat I've forgotten what was being played anyway) I'll get into the spirit of the thread. When a rider is put out of a match in an incident for which an opponent is exqualified/discluded/whatever the current term is, his rides (including any re-run of the original incident) can be covered by rider replacement. It is so unfair if a team's #1 (for example) is skittled out of a match by an opponent to only allow reserves to cover his rides. They could call the rider a supplementry reserve. Whoops showing my age Seem to remember Len Silver pushed for this a few years ago but it never got through the fuddieduddies meeting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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