BuxtonTiger Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 Travelling around and reading this forum and various press, it appears most tracks are fund raising for airfences. However of those without, I can see no fundraising at Sheffield. Does anyone know if they have a sugar daddy and their fence is sorted, or is the silence for any other reason? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Man Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 might be a very good reason for this if the rumour i have heard is true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuxtonTiger Posted September 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 And the rumour is?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Man Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 Just that at the moment, if i can confirm it i will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elephantman Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 I still haven't found any concrete research that provides evidence that air fences are safer than the type they have at Sheffield. I'm struggling to understand why when a sport is financially flat on its backside that an expensive unproven "safety" device is being foisted upon clubs. Without research evidence to support the installation of air fences the only thing one can conclude is that someone has done a very good "selling" job and some others have done a very poor job of "buying". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor... Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 I still haven't found any concrete research that provides evidence that air fences are safer than the type they have at Sheffield. I'm struggling to understand why when a sport is financially flat on its backside that an expensive unproven "safety" device is being foisted upon clubs. Without research evidence to support the installation of air fences the only thing one can conclude is that someone has done a very good "selling" job and some others have done a very poor job of "buying". You started another thread going on about this, and with respect, whether you struggle to understand it or not, it's an fim directive now, so everyone is lumbered with it, whether you like it or not. This argument is a good few years late. Anyway, this thread is about a genuine question concerning Sheffield, so i'll bow out and leave it to those who can answer it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elephantman Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 You started another thread going on about this, and with respect, whether you struggle to understand it or not, it's an fim directive now, so everyone is lumbered with it, whether you like it or not. This argument is a good few years late. Anyway, this thread is about a genuine question concerning Sheffield, so i'll bow out and leave it to those who can answer it. Then the FIM need to overturn their directive until the science backs up the gut feel. This is about safety not commercial interests. You never make a safety directive without hard evidence; it could be argued that speedway has been cavalier with the dangers of the sport over the years; that doesn't mean that you should be cavalier when attempting to improve safety. CAS can normally have the power to overturn directives of sports governing bodies so if a promoter or association feel strongly enough they could argue the case at CAS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuxtonTiger Posted September 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 Thankyou for your input Elephantman, I have read the other thread and agree about more evidence being needed. However as a regular visitor to Sheffield, I am interested in what is happening there. Clearly it is no fence, no racing next year so going back to my original point, does anyone know how Sheffield are raising the required funds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elephantman Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 Having done some further research it is not an FIM directive; the directive only applies to World Championships. So why is this unproven technology being foisted upon British Speedway? This extremely relevant to British Speedway not just Sheffield; people are out working hard to raise money to purchase something which is not a mandatory requirement; who is conning who? Where is the evidence that safety will be improved by the installation of Air Fences? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyK86 Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 I can only go on past stories and recent stories to help here, Machin and Hoggy are looking towards the team they want for next season so i would guess that we are running which would mean we have the air fence issue sorted, but as we know in the past they have said they would struggle to put air fence up and down on a thursday due to time constraints because of the greyhounds ! So it could be we move to Sunday which the owner of Owlerton has wanted Sheffield Speedway to do for years. Hope this helps buxtontiger but as i say it is based on previous stories recently and in past years ! I am sure we will find out soon as the winter approaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS50 Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 If Sheffield Eagles Rugby League team move to Owlerton, they may wish to use the stadium Sundays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyK86 Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 If Sheffield Eagles Rugby League team move to Owlerton, they may wish to use the stadium Sundays. I am pretty sure both could fit in on a sunday, only same as Berwick with football followed by speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor... Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 Having done some further research it is not an FIM directive; the directive only applies to World Championships. So why is this unproven technology being foisted upon British Speedway? This extremely relevant to British Speedway not just Sheffield; people are out working hard to raise money to purchase something which is not a mandatory requirement; who is conning who? Where is the evidence that safety will be improved by the installation of Air Fences? The SCB have decided it's mandatory off the back of the Fim advising it should be so. I'm still absolutely astonished at your ongoing conquest on this - where was all this Columbo-like questioning of yours when air fences came into the sport maybe what 8 years ago ?? Sadly i fear you arent going to find an answer you like on this forum, so if i was in your shoes and had as much time as you clearly have to get yourselves all angsty over this, maybe direct an email to the manufacturers of the fences or the scb to see what they say - me thinks your quest is far far too late tho, and to be fair, i dont see many riders questioning any safety issues surrounding them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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