Baldyman Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 Surely it was obvious morten was always going to be in the team, aljack told us this ages ago. As for why not all 7 improving their average, they might, but I think one will stay about the same, which isn't getting worse, so that's got to be good surely. Will be interesting to see how many of our riders averages do improve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalSin Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 Don't think there will be many better reserve partnerships than Ellis and Hawkins. Both should comfortably up their averages. Â If the line up is the same as last year bar Worrall for Barker, and Manzares for Lanham, then I'm more than happy with that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 its a good team, but I would definitely have had Leigh in there for his experience and away tracks, and knowledge. Not a lot of experience between 5 of those, but all 5 could have very big futures. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalSin Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 Risager has been around forever, and has tons of experience. I assume he will now be captain? Â Tungate and Heeps were always going to be in, so it looks like it was a choice between Lanham and Risager for a team place. Â Both seem to score very similar, both inconsistent and both similar averages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 (edited) But you very rarely see Leigh have bad meetings on away tracks, and you need to score plenty of away points to be serious contenders. Now i am not saying this year's team are not contenders, but I would just prefer Leigh. Leigh tends to score 5 6 7 or 8, morten tends to score more of 10 3 8 3 11 3 . Edited December 4, 2013 by Baldyman 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Risager is having a final beer in the last chance saloon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Risager is having a final beer in the last chance saloon?He must be pi$$ed by now! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalSin Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Witches 1-7 Â Worrall Manzares (club asset) Risager Tungate Heeps Hawkins Ellis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Blue Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 (edited) So who do we get a reduction for as this team adds up to 42.54 ? Â Well according to the final greensheet averages for 2013 and Gino being on 5.00 it does ? Edited December 5, 2013 by Super Blue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalSin Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Worrall gets the reduction according to some on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ipswich Jules Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Worrall is in his third "reduced" year of a three year span. Thrilled that Manzares is a club assett and with the line up we should have good reserves all year - it'll start will Hawkins and Ellis but both of those could get into the main team and Risager or Manzares could swap places with either / both of them - strong reserves are so vital and are generally the key to winning meetings and that is something we will have all season. Couple that with a strong top end of Worrall, Tungate and Heeps and I think it's a very balanced side which is fully capable of making the end of season play offs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Worrall gets the reduction according to some on here. Â Still cant see how that is--He has 3 PL averages just like Ash Birks---who doesnt get it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DexterBeauregarde Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 I think manzaries will be good in the prem. League, the type of exciting rider people love to watch. Greatcsinging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalSin Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Â Still cant see how that is--He has 3 PL averages just like Ash Birks---who doesnt get it Are you still waiting for us to " come clean" about knowing that Jensen is in the side? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Worrall gets the reduction according to some on here.possibly Adam as well unless the ruling only covers those riding when the general Brit reduction was phased out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazysue Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 I'm happy with that team, the ones I wanted to be there are there. So chuffed (and relieved) that Adam Ellis is with us again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalSin Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 (edited) possibly Adam as well unless the ruling only covers those riding when the general Brit reduction was phased out.Yep looking at the Ipswich Star, they have Worrall on 8.42 and Ellis on 4.14 so both getting the reduction. Team total 42.21 Edited December 5, 2013 by CardinalSin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 (edited)  Still cant see how that is--He has 3 PL averages just like Ash Birks---who doesnt get it The way I see it the reduction is for the 3 seasons after first attaining an average. So if first average was 2011 then reduction applies in 2012 2013 and 2014.  If Birks fits that heshould get it too. Yep looking at the Ipswich Star, they have Worrall on 8.42 and Ellis on 4.14 so both getting the reduction.That does mean Leighs ommission isnt due to the numbers game as he would fit for Morten. Unless of course they hadnt factored in the reductions until after he was signed. If so a schoolboy error. Edited December 5, 2013 by dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalSin Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 I personally don't mind either of Lanham or Risager. I think they both have very similar scoring potential so wouldn't particularly make us stronger or weaker with one or the other. Â They're both 7 pointers and will both probably be 7 pointers at the end of next season too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Yes a school boy error was made, hence Adam looking for a team place before it was pointed out to them about the reductions. You would think and hope that the people responsible for putting the team together would know the rules. Mr sin I take it you don't watch Ipswich away? Leigh is by far the better rider although the averages are similar. But that's the team and it's one that should keep the home fans happy by winning all home matches, which is something that hasn't happened for a fair few season's. It's definitely a team capable of making the top 6, possibly top 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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