Accident Investigation Procedures

[raymondbudd]

I know that this topic has been discussed in different forms in other threads, however I think that it deserves a thread of its own.

 

In short, what processes and procedures are in place to investigate crashes on UK tracks. I assume that this would come under the boundaries of the SCB, in which case where is it?

 

Some crashes we have seen in 2013 have resulted in serious injuries (Ashworth, Karlsson, Holder). Accepting that Seedway is a dangerous sport, I personally see very little in the way of formal safety investigations.

 

Do such things exist in the UK, and if not why not?

[moxey63]

I remember a report, from insurers at the time George Burrows, back in the 50s as to what injuries riders had claimed for during a 12 months period. In fact, I was only thinking of this yesterday while glancing the Speedway Star and noticing the amount of riders falling that were being published.

 

Surely someone must keep figures of injuries etc.

Edited September 7, 2013 by moxey63

[The White Knight]

I remember a report, from insurers at the time George Burrows, back in the 50s as to what injuries riders had claimed for during a 12 months period. In fact, I was only thinking of this yesterday while glancing the Speedway Star and noticing the amount of riders falling that were being published.

 

Surely someone must keep figures of injuries etc.

 

They probably do Moxey63 - but - whether those figures would be made public - I just don't know. :unsure:

 

Knowing the way that lots of things are done these days - I would suggest - they would not.

[moxey63]

It's like the accident book at work or school, it's there for a reason. Maybe even a cut or bruising caused by a speedway-related prang may have to be logged by someone, perhaps it's the job of the incident reporter.

Edited September 7, 2013 by moxey63

[Tsunami]

The timekeeper, who is usually the Incident Recorder as well, records details of all accidents with drawings as to where the accident happen. I believe these are collated in an attempt to identify trends with parts of each track.

Talking about George Burrows summarising injuries, there was an investigation about 10 to 15 years ago regarding the repetition of the same riders being injured just before the end of the season. The then precident was, if you were injured late in the season, the benefits continued until they were signed off as making a full recovery. Of course many didn't, and were continued to be paid for most of the winter. The fact that they were working at their 'normal job' out of speedway was somehow failed to be transmitted to GB.

Anyway the names were taken down, and it was noted that the same riders were nearly always injured late in the season and continued with benefits. This was transmitted to them and I believe the carry over benefits claims were greatly reduced. Some injuries of course would stop you riding speedway, but still allow you to do other work after the season finished. As the season stopped at the end of October, some riders were getting paid, even though they would not have had any speedway earnings anyway.

[Fromafar]

The timekeeper, who is usually the Incident Recorder as well, records details of all accidents with drawings as to where the accident happen. I believe these are collated in an attempt to identify trends with parts of each track.

Talking about George Burrows summarising injuries, there was an investigation about 10 to 15 years ago regarding the repetition of the same riders being injured just before the end of the season. The then precident was, if you were injured late in the season, the benefits continued until they were signed off as making a full recovery. Of course many didn't, and were continued to be paid for most of the winter. The fact that they were working at their 'normal job' out of speedway was somehow failed to be transmitted to GB.

Anyway the names were taken down, and it was noted that the same riders were nearly always injured late in the season and continued with benefits. This was transmitted to them and I believe the carry over benefits claims were greatly reduced. Some injuries of course would stop you riding speedway, but still allow you to do other work after the season finished. As the season stopped at the end of October, some riders were getting paid, even though they would not have had any speedway earnings anyway.

Think collarbone injury was the favourite,during the season it was 2weeks out ,end of season it was a 3/4 recovery period.Is it not the case now that payments stop at the official end of the season.