Greg Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 David Howe has said twice now he is not packing up racing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted September 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 (edited) Sidney here is my reply but above all things need simplifying, it is getting diificult to encourage new supporters the way we are going. The league re-structuring, in my opinion, boils down to money or lack of it. Sky.s contract coming to an end will have massive implications for the EL that is why there is the talk of one league. But is that too many teams? Top riders have stated that they do not race in Britain as there are too many meetings & on different nights. The Polish EL ride on a sunday & Sweden EL ride on a tuesday. As far as i can gather, their lower leagues race similar to us-on differing nights. If the PL was restructured then a team max of 16 would give 30 league meetings, the KO cup would be easier with no byes, a pre-season of no more than 4 friendlies with about 3 spare/empty race nights to accomodate rain offs. Also, the tracks should be made raceable & not rideable-we need to entertain. Subtle changes need to be made over a period of 3 to 4 years to get more brits coming through minimising the amount of foreigners racing in our leagues. Give the brits the chance to ride, improve, move up as we are lagging behind the rest of the leagues. Before other people say that practice what you preach, we had to sign the Swedes & Danes to compete as our home grown talent that we tried to nurture at Scunny was taken away. Edited September 15, 2013 by IronScorpion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted September 15, 2013 Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 Sidney here is my reply but above all things need simplifying, it is getting diificult to encourage new supporters the way we are going. The league re-structuring, in my opinion, boils down to money or lack of it. Sky.s contract coming to an end will have massive implications for the EL that is why there is the talk of one league. But is that too many teams? Top riders have stated that they do not race in Britain as there are too many meetings & on different nights. The Polish EL ride on a sunday & Sweden EL ride on a tuesday. As far as i can gather, their lower leagues race similar to us-on differing nights. If the PL was restructured then a team max of 16 would give 30 league meetings, the KO cup would be easier with no byes, a pre-season of no more than 4 friendlies with about 3 spare/empty race nights to accomodate rain offs. Also, the tracks should be made raceable & not rideable-we need to entertain. Subtle changes need to be made over a period of 3 to 4 years to get more brits coming through minimising the amount of foreigners racing in our leagues. Give the brits the chance to ride, improve, move up as we are lagging behind the rest of the leagues. Before other people say that practice what you preach, we had to sign the Swedes & Danes to compete as our home grown talent that we tried to nurture at Scunny was taken away. Good post most of us i believe want more Brits to get a chance your team has been good in that respect generally.Also they give Bates a chance didnt work out but he will be decent longterm.If it is one big league maybe it might be regional who knows it is all up in the air at the mo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EC Rides Again Posted September 15, 2013 Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 (edited) Far too early for this thread. Will there be a Premier League as we know it now ? Interesting article from Scunthorpe promoter Rob Godfrey in the local paper.... http://www.scunthorp...tail/story.html Looks like I might have been right to be cautious about team building until we know the league structure the Scorpions will find themselves in next year. Interesting times ahead. Edited September 15, 2013 by EC Rides Again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIAMONDS Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 Don't know much but here we go 1. Josh Auty 7.57 2. Ryan Douglas 4.67 3. Nicolai Klindt 6.93 4. David Howe 6.34 5. Ashley Birks 7.16 6. Charles Wright 4.05 7. Lewis Blackbird 4.63 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillwhitewasmad Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 We won't build a team that has Douglas in the main body from the start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 Will have another go now the season has finished, assuming 42.5 points limit for the PL. Hope Ashley Birks gets well soon but would be suprised to see him fit for the start of the season, so my apologies Ash, if your fit then I would choose different New Rider 7.78 PL or 4.66 EL (Thorssell / Mellgren / Summers / Fredrik Engman 7.0 ass/ Sam Masters) Josh Auty 7.24 - Josh is much better rider than this average & I was suprised to see it so low, can easily push that upto 8.0 David Howe 6.34 - An injury ranaged 2013, very low average, Mr.Scunthorpe Thomas Jorgenson 6.15 - Suffered early doors in 2013 but is better than this, would expect him to push on now. Ryan Douglas 5.03 - After a mid season tune up became our ace in the pack. Lewis Blackird 4.93 - Just gets better all the time, although 26 years old, its only his 2nd full speedway season. Stefan Nielsen 4.70 - Showed at Somerset what he can do, a Scunthorpe asset. total 42.5 If we could get these riders in (Jensen/Summers/Wright), it would be great but I am sure they will be back with their orignal teams again next season Michel Bech Jensen 8.52 Aaron Summers 7.14 David Howe 6.34 Thomas Jorgenson 6.15 Ryan Douglas 5.03 Lewis Blackird 4.93 Charles Wright 4.30 total 42.41 Still big question marks over Ash birks being fit for part of 2014 & will Josh Auty still be doubling up? Do we need a big hitting number 1 (8.5-9.5 pts) like Edinburgh / Somerset / Ipswich / Newcastle, seems to be the way for a successful league position, would Josh Auty make that in 2014? I dont think Klindt is the answer though, he is so unpredictable, if he doesnt gate he often finishes last. Your thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 Unrealistic to have Bech riding at 1 for you as he's a Plymouth asset and IF he rides PL next year which I doubt then he''' be at Plymouth "but I am sure they will be back with their orignal teams again next season" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EC Rides Again Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 Interested to know if the AGM fall out was discussed at Tai's do in Scunthorpe tonight? All systems go for a straightforward team build now. No Ash Birks it would seem for starters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkscorp Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Good to see Josh confirmed on as a starter for 2014. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Is Birks going to be fit for next season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scunny1 Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Excellent news with signing Josh, but who will be our new number 1 ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Is Birks going to be fit for next season? I think i read that he will try and be back on a bike some time in December,then go from there,fingers cross that it is ok and he can take his place as Scunny captain for 2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkscorp Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Worrall or Morris for No. 1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scunny1 Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Worrall or Morris for No. 1? Either would do fine, maybe a Peterboro rider in the mix now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkscorp Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Been playing with team options and if Rob is definite about keeping Ryan at reserve we will struggle to get either of these guys in at No. 1. As for a Peterborough riders, all foreign and averages will not fit. Perhaps Greenwood at reserve would open up some options, but again, if Ryan is to be at reserve, we would have to release Blackbird and I think he is worth another try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Excellent news with signing Josh, but who will be our new number 1 ???other threads are suggesting Sam Masters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 (edited) I think i read that he will try and be back on a bike some time in December,then go from there,fingers cross that it is ok and he can take his place as Scunny captain for 2014 Thanks. I hope he can! Either would do fine, maybe a Peterboro rider in the mix now? The only one that ending the season and wouldn't have a stupidly high average is Kosciuch on 8.43 but then you may as well sign Worrall or Morris. Been playing with team options and if Rob is definite about keeping Ryan at reserve we will struggle to get either of these guys in at No. 1. As for a Peterborough riders, all foreign and averages will not fit. Perhaps Greenwood at reserve would open up some options, but again, if Ryan is to be at reserve, we would have to release Blackbird and I think he is worth another try. Has Rob said he's building to put him at reserve because 5.03 is a massive figure and I agree that it'd be hard to have him and Blackbird at reserve but I can see Blackbird pushing past 6.00 next year. other threads are suggesting Sam Masters. 1. Sam Masters 7.43 2. Thomas Jorgensen 6.15 3. Ashley Birks 7.30 4. David Howe 6.34 5. Josh Auty 7.24 6. Oliver Greenwood 3.00 7. Ryan Douglas 5.03 Total: 42.49 There's a couple of 3.00 riders around with Scunny connections: Josh Bates, Max Clegg, Steve Worrall... On another note. Is Howe fit to ride next year as well? Edited November 18, 2013 by Islander15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhr Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Thanks. I hope he can! The only one that ending the season and wouldn't have a stupidly high average is Kosciuch on 8.43 but then you may as well sign Worrall or Morris. Has Rob said he's building to put him at reserve because 5.03 is a massive figure and I agree that it'd be hard to have him and Blackbird at reserve but I can see Blackbird pushing past 6.00 next year. 1. Sam Masters 7.43 2. Thomas Jorgensen 6.15 3. Ashley Birks 7.30 4. David Howe 6.34 5. Josh Auty 7.24 6. Oliver Greenwood 3.00 7. Ryan Douglas 5.03 Total: 42.49 There's a couple of 3.00 riders around with Scunny connections: Josh Bates, Max Clegg, Steve Worrall... On another note. Is Howe fit to ride next year as well? Having my first ride next weekend weather permitting, fittest I've felt for nearly two years shoulder wise 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Having my first ride next weekend weather permitting, fittest I've felt for nearly two years shoulder wiseAre you planning to do Long Tracking again next season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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