EC Rides Again Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 that simply isnt true...i know that for a fact.... total sh y te.... Nelsons refusal is totally different to Ryan Douglas....and the rest struggling to get clearance... I wish I shared your bullishness. Everyone seems confident that they have their visa until they're told that they haven't got it ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broadsider Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Rob's comment's reassure to some extent and tbh with a deal tied up so early I can't honestly believe that the all essential visa has been over-looked? In fact I'm certain that Moorwell has already "tweeted" a while back, bemoaning the filling of work permit applications? So visa's have definitely been top of the agenda at some point? If it does though turn out that we've been caught slacking on this then apart from seeming very un-Moorwell-like? It's also a real game changer for us. There's no doubt 2014 Aussie U21 runner-up Ryan is a genuine gilt-edged prospect and his points scoring potential is darn near irreplaceable in the new Scorps septet. It would be a massive blow to miss out not only for Ryan but also the for club and supporters all eagerly anticipating the new season and witnessing the next stage of Ryan exciting speedway development. If the necessary visa is in place then club need to promptly make an official statement to such effect. Should it turn out that the visa issue is real then unfortunately I little faith in achieving a favorable outcome from the UK Border Office and basically that's the season screwed for us all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieranb91 Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 Rob's comment's reassure to some extent and tbh with a deal tied up so early I can't honestly believe that the all essential visa has been over-looked? In fact I'm certain that Moorwell has already "tweeted" a while back, bemoaning the filling of work permit applications? So visa's have definitely been top of the agenda at some point? If it does though turn out that we've been caught slacking on this then apart from seeming very un-Moorwell-like? It's also a real game changer for us. There's no doubt 2014 Aussie U21 runner-up Ryan is a genuine gilt-edged prospect and his points scoring potential is darn near irreplaceable in the new Scorps septet. It would be a massive blow to miss out not only for Ryan but also the for club and supporters all eagerly anticipating the new season and witnessing the next stage of Ryan exciting speedway development. If the necessary visa is in place then club need to promptly make an official statement to such effect. Should it turn out that the visa issue is real then unfortunately I little faith in achieving a favorable outcome from the UK Border Office and basically that's the season screwed for us all. mmmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 I wish I shared your bullishness. Everyone seems confident that they have their visa until they're told that they haven't got it ! Maybe so i was just confirming that the information the Ryan had been refused is not true,nor is it fair to blame the riders i dont think as most have gone down the same route as before with Tiers 2 visas When Ryan left for Aussie back in the Autumn he had all the correct paper work etc need[as i believe did the others] it is the wording of a certain paragraph on the requirements that has caught them out,Ryan inculded,but as of now Ryan hasnt actually been refused 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebaron Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 Rob's comment's reassure to some extent and tbh with a deal tied up so early I can't honestly believe that the all essential visa has been over-looked? In fact I'm certain that Moorwell has already "tweeted" a while back, bemoaning the filling of work permit applications? So visa's have definitely been top of the agenda at some point? If it does though turn out that we've been caught slacking on this then apart from seeming very un-Moorwell-like? It's also a real game changer for us. There's no doubt 2014 Aussie U21 runner-up Ryan is a genuine gilt-edged prospect and his points scoring potential is darn near irreplaceable in the new Scorps septet. It would be a massive blow to miss out not only for Ryan but also the for club and supporters all eagerly anticipating the new season and witnessing the next stage of Ryan exciting speedway development. If the necessary visa is in place then club need to promptly make an official statement to such effect. Should it turn out that the visa issue is real then unfortunately I little faith in achieving a favorable outcome from the UK Border Office and basically that's the season screwed for us all. The season screwed is probably going a bit OTT, but it certainly 'takes away' an element that many would be relishing if Ryan is denied a return. I cannot possibly see a situation where Rob would have let this slip under the radar. I see a quote on twitter from 'Scunthorpe Speedway' suggesting it was someone in 'the comic'. Its a concern that the 'someone' happens to be Alex Harkness Chair of the BSPA and he's quite definite about who is involved and how 'everyone' was warned to make sure that visa's were sorted. Personally I am remaining 'optimistic' that sense will prevail but where did the Border Agency ever demonstrate common sense?. If Ryan is left stranded its a shame we lost Lewis Blackbird and even MPT (who would still be a great asset at reserve) has linked up with EL Belle Vue or could he simply double up. But we have to hope all's well that ends Moor-well or something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 From Scunthorpe twitter, 'Great news. Speedway star said different!" you mean someone in the comic said different!!;-)' Sounds like all is good but I can't understand how Alex Harkness can get it wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebaron Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 Reading the Star this week; it does seem that Ryan is one of the riders with a visa problem; and Rob seems to be relying on the wheels of the BSPA to move into action. Judging by the 'better news' coming out that Jason Doyle may get in on a tier 5 visa there is reason to be optimistic for Ryan. Rob seems to have stepped back from his stance that including Ryan as one of 'the 5' visa less rider was 'just someone in the comic'. So all things being equal; Ryan hopefully gets in; like Doyley on a tier 5 visa, that only allows him to ride for his 'sponsor club' Scunthorpe. So no doubling up, no guest meetings, and no individual meetings. That might not be a bad thing in end, as he will putting everything 100% into Scunny, reducing wear and tear on man and machine. Heres hoping for some definite confirmation soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebaron Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 I posted what I thought was an approvable post on the Aussie Visa situation and how it affects Ryan. Why every time I try to post on here do I need to get 1 more approved post before I can post. Never said anything inappropriate nor would I so moderator if you could approve this know why its harder to post on here than break into Fort Knox; it would be appreciated. Up the Scorps ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lioness Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 if you read the bit you agree to when you sign up (!!) it states your initial posts will be subject to mod approval. There is no guarantee someone will be able to approve your post right away! unfortunately this was made necessary by the forum being abused by a minority signing up with multiple identities to cause trouble or on occassion spammers trying to post ads for their 'services' (in fact there was one of those last week). They seldom come back if their initial post or posts aren't cleared and it allows Phil to delete spammers or multiple IDs without them being able to show and perhaps offend. its not fail safe but it has made a massive difference and although it affects the majority of decent folks who sign up it is unfortunately a necessary evil. looking at your stats you arent on mod approval anymore now so you should have started to notice a difference hope that explains it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebaron Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 Thank you Mod for taking time to explain; I'm a free man' ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebaron Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 So it seems that we are going to be starting the season minus Ryan. Robs comment in the Star that it could be up to 6 weeks for the UKBA to ratify his tier 5 visa entry is concerning; particularly as the standard time on this sort of thing can be 'up to six months'. Maybe we can be hopeful of the wheels turning more quickly by the efforts of the BSPA but my gut feeling is that it might well be mid April before Ryan actually puts a wheel on track. Rob mentions another NL rider covering for Ryan; but surely MPT is the obvious call to make on his 4.92 Plymouth average from 2013. Tofty might be riding full time in the EL with the Aces but he can double up for sure and he is a Scorpions asset. No brainer for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 palm toft cant double up as belle vue already have two double up riders in the top 5. (cook and worrall) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 So it seems that we are going to be starting the season minus Ryan. Robs comment in the Star that it could be up to 6 weeks for the UKBA to ratify his tier 5 visa entry is concerning; particularly as the standard time on this sort of thing can be 'up to six months'. Maybe we can be hopeful of the wheels turning more quickly by the efforts of the BSPA but my gut feeling is that it might well be mid April before Ryan actually puts a wheel on track. Rob mentions another NL rider covering for Ryan; but surely MPT is the obvious call to make on his 4.92 Plymouth average from 2013. Tofty might be riding full time in the EL with the Aces but he can double up for sure and he is a Scorpions asset. No brainer for me. Not sure about that. Belle Vue already have Craig Cook and Richie Worrall doubling up, MPT would make 3 and I'm almost certain they are only allowed 2, but may be wrong as the rules may have been changed. I am sure someone will confirm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebaron Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 (edited) Not sure about that. Belle Vue already have Craig Cook and Richie Worrall doubling up, MPT would make 3 and I'm almost certain they are only allowed 2, but may be wrong as the rules may have been changed. I am sure someone will confirm. Ok I see so if Rob was thinking of a NL rider as cover how about Stefan Nielsen as far as I hear he only has Coventry Storm as a guaranteed slide in 2014. That might be workable until Ryan appears. Edited February 21, 2014 by the outsider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 (edited) Ok I see so if Rob was thinking of a NL rider as cover how about Stefan Nielsen as far as I hear he only has Coventry Storm as a guaranteed slide in 2014. That might be workable until Ryan appears. Also at Belle Vue (don't think that would stop him riding PL though). Edited February 21, 2014 by The Abbott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king junior Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't they need to leave Douglas team place open so he can get visa? Surely he can't get a visa if they sign a rider to take his place. Perhaps me just over thinking things! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 I think you're right SKJ, which means Rob is referring to an NL rider who will count as a 3.00 NL guest. Nielsen doesn't as he has achieved an average of over 4.00 in the PL. The likes of Ritchinfs, Morley and Sarjeant look good to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieranb91 Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 Ryan will make it over before I'm sure, I've heard they are flyin through visa applications 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr C Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 Looks like Ryan is sorted for start of the season - http://www.scunthorpetelegraph.co.uk/Rob-Godfrey-Scunthorpe-Scorpions-riders-number/story-20772791-detail/story.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scunny1 Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 Damn,got to change all my Fantasy teams again!!! Good to have some positive news about Ryan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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