Jonny the spud Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 When is the AGM to decide what's happening next year in terms of leagues etc ?? With the end of this season fast approaching, riders / sponsors etc will need to sort out affairs for next year so will there be any sense of urgency from the powers that be ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandorum Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 so will there be any sense of urgency from the powers that be ? No! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 When is the AGM to decide what's happening next year in terms of leagues etc ?? With the end of this season fast approaching, riders / sponsors etc will need to sort out affairs for next year so will there be any sense of urgency from the powers that be ? If there is I think it will be "a first" for the sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob tatum Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 My 8 year old cocker spaniel Ash could do a better job than the current buffoons who run british speedway not so sure about my 16 year old son but as the only word he mumbles is" whatever"he would probably be perfect. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 When is the AGM to decide what's happening next year in terms of leagues etc ?? With the end of this season fast approaching, riders / sponsors etc will need to sort out affairs for next year so will there be any sense of urgency from the powers that be ? To answer your question Jonny, the AGM is usually about 22 to 24th November each year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 ...but usually with a 'pre-AGM' sometime around now I think?! Its often been said - even by some promoters - that the AGM should be earlier. Other countries' leagues seem to agree their structures well before the BSPA's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macinter Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 My 8 year old cocker spaniel Ash could do a better job than the current buffoons who run british speedway not so sure about my 16 year old son but as the only word he mumbles is" whatever"he would probably be perfect. I have a friend who is a promoter of speedway racing and some of the hoops he has to jump through are mind boggling. It will take someone very extraordinary to sort out the problems afflicting domestic speedway. Guest riders alone is just a total mine field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lioness Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 ...but usually with a 'pre-AGM' sometime around now I think?! Its often been said - even by some promoters - that the AGM should be earlier. Other countries' leagues seem to agree their structures well before the BSPA's. its one thing thats always bugged me - other countries seem to have their teams in place for the following season by the time of the BSPA conference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 They SIMPLY MUST know what's going down next season!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 ...but usually with a 'pre-AGM' sometime around now I think?! Its often been said - even by some promoters - that the AGM should be earlier. Other countries' leagues seem to agree their structures well before the BSPA's. With the season officially ending at the end of October, the monies that have to pass between clubs, for transfers and away meetings, etc, is finalised for the final accounts to be presented at the AGM. Clubs also need to re-assess their position in order to say whether they are running or not in the following year. In the pre AGM meeting, the limits are initially agreed, and most teams make some signings ahead of the confirmation of the actual points limits. It really is only the fixtures which are not started till after the AGM, when it is confirmed who is running or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 So the season will end at EL level, for the most part by the middle of September. Two months then get wasted. Then there's the AGM on or around the 3rd weekend of November. Then it's only 4 working week's til the Christmas / New Year break And with the whole root and branch structure of the sport in need of revamping and redesigning, you have to wonder where they will find the time to reconstruct the sport let alone sign any riders or agree a fixture list in time for next March. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 So the season will end at EL level, for the most part by the middle of September. Two months then get wasted. Then there's the AGM on or around the 3rd weekend of November. Then it's only 4 working week's til the Christmas / New Year break And with the whole root and branch structure of the sport in need of revamping and redesigning, you have to wonder where they will find the time to reconstruct the sport let alone sign any riders or agree a fixture list in time for next March. A joke they should be ahead of the game and have things in place now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 They SIMPLY MUST know what's going down next season!!!! I know what's going down next season, it's the sport, "it's going down the pan". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Man Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 If the promoters havent started talking about next year by now then god help the sport everyone can see the mess its in, everyone knows there is no sky money coming in, lets hope they understand the situation and dont just bury their heads in the sand again, as usual. how many PL tracks dont have an air fence? and how many of them cant afford to buy one? lots and lots of factors that are already known now, including how much each promoter has lost this season, so there is no need to wait until november, everything can be sorted now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny the spud Posted August 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 It doesn't help riders trying to attract sponsors if they can't say where / what league they'll be riding in either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 I know what's going down next season, it's the sport, "it's going down the pan". I tend to back your comment. Each year the sport declines more. I think that in 10 years time it will be individual meetings only with a hard core of regular riders competing at various tracks. These meetings will probably operate on a monthly basis and possibly be promoted by a central organisation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 I tend to back your comment. Each year the sport declines more. I think that in 10 years time it will be individual meetings only with a hard core of regular riders competing at various tracks. These meetings will probably operate on a monthly basis and possibly be promoted by a central organisation. With a lot of people with Blankets, Flasks, Folding Chairs, Walking Sticks and Zimmer Frames watching it - oops - and I nearly forgot - Sandwiches (age you know) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lioness Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 whether we like to accept it or not there is too much 'little boys club' with egos being massaged by each other in speedway and distrust/dislike/pure hostility towards moving onwards or towards anyone or anything that doesn't comply to their little world. until the egos put the sport before themselves it will continue to decline especially as there are now so many other things to pull on peoples strings for entertainment which are perceived to provide better value. Harsh but true 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 whether we like to accept it or not there is too much 'little boys club' with egos being massaged by each other in speedway and distrust/dislike/pure hostility towards moving onwards or towards anyone or anything that doesn't comply to their little world. until the egos put the sport before themselves it will continue to decline especially as there are now so many other things to pull on peoples strings for entertainment which are perceived to provide better value. Harsh but true Do you really believe that egos don't exist in other sports. Naïve to think its only speedway, and without the promoters that often run clubs at a loss to themselves, there would be no British speedway... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lioness Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 no not at all, they exist everywhere. part of the problem though is instead of saying 'but it exists in x, y, and z' (the majority of which will be 'bigger' sports in terms of appeal anyway), we should be saying 'lets limit the damage it does and cut it down as much as possible and listen' can I just clarify though that I didn't say promoters, I said egos and I see the two as seperate entities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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