StevePark Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 TBF the Aussies do tend to be a little less PC than us. And that makes it right, does it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudflaps Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 I'm a fan of Mathieu Tresarrieu - did a good enough job for the Panthers a few seasons ago.... got a very stylish grasstrack riding style, similar to Norther Soul Richard Hall... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 None of you are mentioning Stevie Boxall... He'll be one of the top riders in the PL in 2014 without question. Perhaps. He has proved he has the ability in the past. However he does have a tendency to throw in the towel when things arent working well. So he has a lot to prove still. I wish the lad luck and hope the PL works for him this time around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 And that makes it right, does it? That's clearly not what SCB said.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Shadders Posted January 27, 2014 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Couldn't agree more Shadders not welcome back as far as i am concerned after his 'Packies in Australia' comment (spelling is down to him not me) quite disgusting. One of the few tracks where you will see quite a few non white people attending Speedway (including my Wife) and with a rider having such blatant racist views he can rot in Oz as far as i am concerned.My maternal grandfather came over here from Cyprus in the mid 1930's and worked his arse off to earn a living, sleeping standing up, arm over a rope strung across a room, along with up to a dozen other men. As soon as he'd earned enough money my grandmother, late mother and aunt joined him in 1938, living in one tiny room above a shop in Lambeth, working all hours. My mother used to tell me how they'd be taunted in the streets during the war because people assumed they were Jewish. My early schooldays were spent avoiding the bullies who would call me "Paki" because they didn't know what a Greek looked like To some, what Tyson said may seem like a bit of a laugh, but not me. I couldn't care less if he never comes back here. Overrated at best. 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudflaps Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 (edited) My maternal grandfather came over here from Cyprus in the mid 1930's and worked his arse off to earn a living, sleeping standing up, arm over a rope strung across a room, along with up to a dozen other men. As soon as he'd earned enough money my grandmother, late mother and aunt joined him in 1938, living in one tiny room above a shop in Lambeth, working all hours. My mother used to tell me how they'd be taunted in the streets during the war because people assumed they were Jewish. My early schooldays were spent avoiding the bullies who would call me "Paki" because they didn't know what a Greek looked like To some, what Tyson said may seem like a bit of a laugh, but not me. I couldn't care less if he never comes back here. Overrated at best. crikey Shadders calm down mate , this is a speedway forum......! Edited January 27, 2014 by Flyin Panther Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Rye House have just issued a Press Release in regard to the Tyson Nelson visa situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 A press release just issued on the visa situation: To Declare or Not to Declare?Not surprisingly, the rejection of Tyson Nelson’s visa application and the subsequent drafting in of Mathieu Trésarrieu as a Silver Ski Rocket has provoked a number of supporter comments on public forums. One that has surfaced makes the argument that teams should not declare a rider’s inclusion in their new season line-ups until the necessary paperwork is fully in place. This is, after all, the second time in two years that the Rockets have been burned, and the second time that Nelson has been ruled out of action.Is this a fair point? Is there a raising of false hopes? Rye House promoter Len Silver gives his own views here, and also provides details of just what is involved in the rider visa process in order to help clear up possible misconceptions. And it is more detailed than you might think.Silver starts at the beginning. “Before leaving the UK to return to Australia at the end of last season, Tyson had in his possession all the paperwork necessary for the issue of a working visa. This included the Rye House registration for overseas sports persons' sponsorship, issued by the UK Border Agency and fully paid up.“There was also an official document from the BSPA authorising Tyson's acceptance as part of the Rye House team, plus a personal contract issued by Rye House Speedway giving details of earnings, living accommodation and other items as required by the British authorities for overseas workers.“Back in Australia, Tyson had in place all the requirements necessary for the issue of a visa, which is in contrast to the first occasion he was refused, when some of the requirements were slightly wrong.“So we had no reason to think that it was anything more than a "rubber stamp" issue. We were not informed of a new edict issued from the Australian side which stated that there must be a twelve month gap between trips to UK under that particular sponsorship scheme.“A number of British promoters have been caught by the same issue, and some of the individual riders involved also have other items which have affected their visas, several of which have never been an effective item previously.“At what point do you communicate your plans publically to your supporters? Do you leave a “tbc” in your line-up for what could potentially be a 2-3 month period when you don’t envisage a problem and have no reason to envisage one?“I’m convinced we took the right approach on that.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 (edited) If a professional footballer had posted what Nelson did he'd be in a world of trouble. Edited January 27, 2014 by Shadders 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshirePudding Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Steve Boxall is a class act.but will need to up his gating in the Premier League ,may have looked pretty good gating in the National league..but was headed round the first bend many times by Ben Morley and some other sharp starters,..Still think he will do well,, and along with Garrity is one of the most exciting riders in the country.. Really? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Skid Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 If a professional footballer had posted what Nelson did he'd be in a world of trouble. Riders are accountable for what they post on social media sites, the BSPA and SCB make all riders fully aware of this, and that it is taken very seriously, hence very few instances coming to light recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMungo Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Riders are accountable for what they post on social media sites, the BSPA and SCB make all riders fully aware of this, and that it is taken very seriously Just ask Sam Masters! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 Bigots like Nelson have no place in a family sport like Speedway. I wonder what the likes of Lindbach think of his comments. Let's hope he stays in Oz and we don't see him and his views back over here again. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy123456 Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 Bigots like Nelson have no place in a family sport like Speedway. I wonder what the likes of Lindbach think of his comments. Let's hope he stays in Oz and we don't see him and his views back over here again. why would his comments offend LIndack?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudflaps Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 why would his comments offend LIndack?! good question! :rofl: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 (edited) Silver starts at the beginning. “Before leaving the UK to return to Australia at the end of last season, Tyson had in his possession all the paperwork necessary for the issue of a working visa. This included the Rye House registration for overseas sports persons' sponsorship, issued by the UK Border Agency and fully paid up. “There was also an official document from the BSPA authorising Tyson's acceptance as part of the Rye House team, plus a personal contract issued by Rye House Speedway giving details of earnings, living accommodation and other items as required by the British authorities for overseas workers. “Back in Australia, Tyson had in place all the requirements necessary for the issue of a visa, which is in contrast to the first occasion he was refused, when some of the requirements were slightly wrong. “So we had no reason to think that it was anything more than a "rubber stamp" issue. We were not informed of a new edict issued from the Australian side which stated that there must be a twelve month gap between trips to UK under that particular sponsorship scheme. So basically Nelson (and others its seems) left the country without having a new visa issued. Also neither Nelson or Silver were not aware that there must be a 12 month gap between visits? Not aware that 2 riders last year missed the season because of this? Only got themselves to blame...... Edited January 28, 2014 by 2ndbendbeerhut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewer Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Dont get the 12 month gap, if thats true how come tungate, ward, woodward and so on are coming back . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Dont get the 12 month gap, if thats true how come tungate, ward, woodward and so on are coming back . Because they reapplied before they left the country and/or before expiry of the old visa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudflaps Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 he should have stayed here in Britain in one of those Caravans behind the back straight... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewer Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Because they reapplied before they left the country and/or before expiry of the old visa. Ok cheers. There is a window from expiry of visa some were too early and some after the window closes hence the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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