Kent Kings V Dudley Heathens 26th Aug **3pm Start**

[Heathen1984]

I said exactly the same to my mrs milk float, lots of cheering when we fell off.

Well done Kent, was out gated and that's that at Kent. First out gate and u win, no racing!

[westhamboy66]

Boxhall the boxer defo threw his dummy out the pram and to punch another rider in the face after a no fault come together has not done him any favours. When you wear goggles a punch in the face can be very bad with the hard plastic and lens pushing hard into the nasal area and eyes. In my opinion he should have been fined and I hope he never guests for the heathens again. He should keep his dummy and rattle in the pushchair 😱

Who is Boxhall?..well done kent wish i was there to see it but Rye House was calling. Shame Mr Pottinger in his post match comments didn't take the defeat in a decent manner. Sour grapes, such a shame that he couldn't congratulate Kent rather than have a dig at the track the Ref and his inability to put out a decent side.

[greyhoundp]

Firstly well done Kent Kings, a superb all round Team performance, deserved winners, again impressed by young Jack Kingston, very impressive Stadium and set up, for The Heathens though they all gave it there best shot, we were not at the meeting when it came to gating, completely outgated by Kings, threw away a few points notably in Heat 2 when Nathan lost it on the first/second bend, and Ash couldnt hold it on the same bend, when he had just got the bettter of Ben Morley, lost a few points when BABS Horley ordered a rerun of Heat 14, when Jack lost it on the 1st/2nd bend last lap, Heathens crossed the line on a 5-1, in the rerun Kent took a 3-3 with Jack excluded.

All in all a good meeting which was NOT spoiled by a couple of incidents which i will comment on; firstly Steve Boxall, good rider, but absolutely no need for the punch he threw at Ashley Morris, after the race, when Ashley split the Kent pair who were on a 5-1, and YES there were lots of Cheers in the Grandstand when Ashley fell in his race with Ben Morley, they did however applaud when he eventually got to his feet. I would have liked to have seen this meeting with a fully fit Steve Boxall, and Heathens Lewis Blackbird. Prior to the meeting i thought it was a mistake to go with RR, and not a guest, i think i am right in saying our RR rides gained 2 points.

Once again well done Kent, not the pushovers some thought they might be.

[Bryn]

Some fair comments within that posting 'greyhoundp' but with regard to the decision to re-run heat 14 (not ideal a solution I grant you) can you 100% confirm the positions of the other three at the exact time the ref pressed the stop button (forget the finishing line as the stop button was pressed as they exited the second bend with Jack falling) - it was certainly close? Had Benji Compton sneaked through on the inside to pass a Heathen? The ref was not sure, her attention like most including mine alas I'd say, was focussed on the faller and so the re-run was ordered. We should bear in mind that races don't HAVE to be awarded - without looking up the exact wording I believe it gives the refs power to if they want to!

Edited August 27, 2013 by Bryn

[waco]

Always good unbiased posts from Greyhound p unlike some on here by the way there was more than one pass in the meeting,, 2 from Morris for a start and what about Kingstons last to first..What are some people looking at..

[manchesterpaul]

....Dudley were poor, couldn't gate all meeting. Boring meeting, haters paradise, 1 pass all meeting.....Gaters paradise I meant haha

 

When i saw the result this morning i though it was excellent news for the sport at a new track. No offence to Dudley fans but it mattered to Kent more than yourselves. To beat such a top side and one hopes in front of what would be a large crowd because of the holiday and class of the opponents sounds great. However, my heart sunk when i saw that there was no racing only gating

 

.....by the way there was more than one pass in the meeting,, 2 from Morris for a start and what about Kingstons last to first..What are some people looking at.

 

good news but which of the above posts is the most accurate? I hoping it's the latter one.

Edited August 27, 2013 by manchesterpaul

[Halifaxtiger]

I can't deny I was a little disappointed with the barrage of abuse toward the tweeters on the updates site. We can't all be know it all's. I think they have done a good job so far and just because they had an off night they get slated. Hope they learn that in speedway you can't take things personally.

 

Perhaps the strength of the comments - I haven't seen them - are a bit much but the number of mistakes made was ridiculous.

 

I couldn't believe my eyes when updates stated that Blackbird was riding, and left me wondering who I was watching at Scunthorpe.

 

I am sure I have made the odd mistake when texting updates but nothing like that and, bluntly, that's inexcusable.

[Guest]

I don't where it was now on Updates and frankly am not interested enough to go back and trawl through there. But I am certain that in one of the Updates for a race late in the match different finishers were given as to those previously named as starters in the race?

I don't think the Kings' own Tweets system (or whatever it's called) is very good. Sorry - no I could not do better, but then nor do I put myself forward as prepared to face doing the job. But those who do undertake such tasks need to ensure accuracy. I think the task is a bit more than having a fat finger to bang away at the keyboard on the system being used?

Stand by for the usual anti-gustix responses!

Edited August 27, 2013 by Guest

[greyhoundp]

Always good unbiased posts from Greyhound p unlike some on here by the way there was more than one pass in the meeting,, 2 from Morris for a start and what about Kingstons last to first..What are some people looking at..

 

I can confirm, that was was correct, Oh and we must remember Nathans pass on Benji, which had to be rerun, in response to Bryn, NO when the red lights came on, Im not 100% sure what the positions were, when they crossed the line, Nathan was half a wheel in front. There was no passing until there appeared an outside line, when Ash, and Jack found some drive out there, Starkie tried but just couldnt get past any Kings riders, and when Kings did miss the gate Jack excepted found the same problem.

 

In response to Manchesterpaul, yes it was a good crowd, the Car Parks was full 20 minutes before Tapes up, Stands were pretty near full, Im thinking there were probably around 100/150+ Heathens fans scattered around the Stadium, on all 4 sides so difficult to guesstimate. Chatting to a NEW Kings supporter, he enjoyed the meeting, as i explained how points were awarded.

[bruno]

my first visit to kent and I was impressed with nearly everything,unfortunately the one thing that needs sorting is the most important.that being the track.but tbh this can be worked on over time and im sure it will be.facilities are 2nd to none and viewing is excellent and a cracking fan base.a bit naughty cheering when ash came off but this tends to happen at most places these days.there were a couple of passes off ash but with the one he couldn't hold it after he got thru.a few first turn passes but a cracking ride by Kingston in heat 12.heat 14 could have been awarded but a difficult one for the ref.gareth got a flyer in one race which wasn't called back so there you go.we could have got a point with a bit of luck but well done to kent ,a deserved win.

Edited August 27, 2013 by bruno

[cityrebel]

i reckon the crowd was at least 1500 yesterday. it was an eventful hard fought match with plenty of thrills and spills and despite the lack of too much passing, i enjoyed the meeting. if the heathens could have found a decent guest the result would have been a lot closer.

[Kent Whistle Gang]

R/R was a huge mistake - only 2 points earned from Blackbird's rides. He would surely have hit double figures. However, the ref missed Isherwood fidgeting before the off in heat 10, which gifted a 1-5 to Dudley. Also, Morris definitely squeezed Boxall into the fence in heat 13, converting a 5-1 into a 4-2. Should Boxall have punched Morris? Of course not. However, Boxall is a fighter, literally, and that's how trained fighters respond. Also, Morris is no stranger to controversy - witness his confrontation with Lewis Rose at Stoke in the NL4TT a week earlier. The bottom line is that there isn't a NL manager who wouldn't love to have a rider like Boxall in their team. Fortunately, for the moment at least, that team is Kent Kings. Full respect to the Heathens and their supporters - the title is yours to lose now. Kent will be happy just to avoid the wooden spoon in our first NL season. Looks like Stoke will finish bottom of the pile this time around.

[greyhoundp]

Good post KWG, I dont share your confidence, about it being ours to lose. The reasoning i dont share it are Robert Lambert, Lewis Kerr, and Lewis Rose, whilst Shane Hazelden being at reserve is a complete mystery to me, he has all the ability, the Monmore Track like Kents isnt the easiest track to overtake on, and KL have a few gaters in there ranks. When the Young Stars visited Monmore LR scored 14 from reserve, Shane Hazelden scored 7 in the main Team, in addition KL have Jake Knight and Darren Mallett both well capable of scoring double figure scores reguarly, they are the Team who in my opinion are most likely to stop us winning the KO Cup and League, they have all round strength, and an outstanding rider in Robert Lambert, we perhaps slightly edge it in the all round aspect.

Back to Kent, you have a tremendous set up down there, and i fully expect you to be challenging for NL honours next season, yes i do expect you to remain NL for at least one more season, if only to recoup the cost of setting up The Track, buying an air fence etc, etc. Then in your 3rd season i think you will be looking PL, but you have the potential, and crowds to be in the highest ranking Speedway in the UK. I was well impressed easy to get to Track, outstanding facilities, friendly crowd, just one little complaint, that speaker system, i did overhear the same complaint from one of your own supporters when i was leaving the Stadium, all in all you can be well pleased with your first season at Central Park, and heres wishing you have many more of them. Here is a little twit bit of useless information for you, your Chairman Roger Cearns, his family i am 99% sure used to run Wimbledon Speedway/Stadium back in the day, so its definately in his blood.

[Parsloes 1928 nearly]

Thanks for the kind and helpful words 'greyhoundp'.

As a matter of interest which part of the stadium were you and having a problem with hearing the speakers..? It's been sorted in most parts now and I went around checking on Monday..

Yes you're right about Roger - he's the grand-son of the legendary WJ Cearns who built the first track in the UK at High Beech 85 years ago and also in that same year, Wimbledon Stadium. We remember this in the Laurels for the WJ Cearns Memorial Trophy staged earlier this year and in less than two weeks take on a 'Wimbledon' side in the John Cearns Cup. John was Roger's father and was a Director & Stadium Manager at Plough Lane for 60 years.

[waco]

I went up into the central part of the stand during the interval and i have to say there was little clarity in the announcements being made..You had to really consentrate to understand what was being said..And the same on the center green .. I have heard many complaints about the sound but no one is saying its the announcer,, It is the system ,,are you sure there is no reverb turned on ,,on the mixer that would cause it ,,or speakers facing one another that would cause distortion type feedback..Also turning the bass frequency down a little and turn up the high frequency a little may help

Edited August 28, 2013 by waco

[greyhoundp]

Thanks for the kind and helpful words 'greyhoundp'.

As a matter of interest which part of the stadium were you and having a problem with hearing the speakers..? It's been sorted in most parts now and I went around checking on Monday..

 

I was directly in line with the starting line, same level as the fast food bar, above that was seats, and behind them was the refs box, and immediately above what appeared to be a tunnel, i never walked down to see what was there. The announcements are not very clear, and there was breaking up of the voice, as waco said you have to try to listen to make sense of the announcements, for a speedway follower, you can make some sense out of them, but for a newcomer, it could prove difficult to follow.

[blueherb777]

I mentioned about the poor quality sound system a couple of weeks back.Is it really that hard to have a clear system everyone can hear?The answer to that is obviously yes.

Edited August 28, 2013 by AJ is King

[waco]

AJ is king ,,there are numourous possibilities for a poor sound system, it may be something as simple as poor quality mics, or even a simple thing like dodgy leads causing bad connections, or the speakers are arranged in the stand in a way that distorts the sound.It probably needs a professional sound engineer to sort it out But it definatly needs sorting...

[Parsloes 1928 nearly]

I was directly in line with the starting line, same level as the fast food bar, above that was seats, and behind them was the refs box, and immediately above what appeared to be a tunnel, i never walked down to see what was there. The announcements are not very clear, and there was breaking up of the voice, as waco said you have to try to listen to make sense of the announcements, for a speedway follower, you can make some sense out of them, but for a newcomer, it could prove difficult to follow.

 

I'm not surprised you said that location because that does appear (that lower range of seating below the 'ledge') to be the problem part sound-wise. There are plenty of other areas where the sound is fine - including I was pleasantly pleased to find, the stand away on the first and second bends. I agree it needs looking into but my advice for the remaining meetings is it's beter to sit higher up (above the ledge) in the main grandstand. Better viewing from there too...

[Kent Whistle Gang]

Was that Derek Barclay on the mic for the Heathens match?