RobMcCaffery Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 Being a media pro I suspect that Rob won't stoop to our level on principle. Very much an 'ex' lastword, but I'd rather watch it with Dave's expert commentary. Thanks to Alan for the help. No question of any 'stooping'. I've just been a viewer and supporter for years now, and very, very happy to be out of it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandonbee48 Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 I've seen some reckless dives up the inside, but that was REALLY wild. Glad Zagar is up and okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchesterpaul Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 (edited) A better summer than in the UK the latest average attendances Ikaros Smederna 3,808 Dackarna 3,596 Indianerna 3.517 Piraterna 2.935 Elit Vetlanda 2,917 Västervik 2.590 Hammarby 1.934 Vargarna 1.738 As a comparison the attendances for the media dominating football is for their highest league 7,210, and for the second tier equivalent to the Champonship over here 2,451. So quite decent crowds indeed for the speedway bearing in mind the non-central (inhospitable lol) location of some of the tracks. Edited September 18, 2013 by manchesterpaul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted September 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 (edited) Oh so true, but I suspect that even those averages are down on previous Swedish seasons (not fully researched ) and their rider wages must be so much more than our lot pay. Hope I'm wrong.......don't want to see any speedway nation in trouble, but a lot of Swedish clubs have disappeared in recent seasons. year: series: play off. 2009: 3296 : 4708 2010: 2665 : 3933 2011; 2898 : 4342 2012: 2728 : 3290 2013: 2728 : 4392 So attendances have been pretty stable. Numbers from the latest issue of Speedway racing. It varies some from year to year depending on what teams that are in Elitserien. For next season we have changed Hammarby to Rospiggarna and I would think that Rospiggarna will have a higher attendance then Hammarby this year, Edited September 18, 2013 by Ghostwalker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandonbee48 Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 Very much an 'ex' lastword, but I'd rather watch it with Dave's expert commentary. Thanks to Alan for the help. No question of any 'stooping'. I've just been a viewer and supporter for years now, and very, very happy to be out of it all. No one will take my Yankee $$$$$$$$$ for a subscription, so it's streams or watch the grass grow for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchesterpaul Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 Very much an 'ex' lastword, but I'd rather watch it with Dave's expert commentary. Thanks to Alan for the help. No question of any 'stooping'. I've just been a viewer and supporter for years now, and very, very happy to be out of it all. Gee rmc you make it sound like you still having to deal with high Therapy bills (JOKE) lol. If you found something so wrong would rather you seek to change it from the inside than flee. Intrigued as to what the 'all' is? are you referring to the speedway at the time or the media? It varies some from year to year depending on what teams that are in Elitserien. Like when Manchester United dropped a division many years ago for a season and that leagues average attendances were duly elevated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastword Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 Very much an 'ex' lastword, but I'd rather watch it with Dave's expert commentary. Thanks to Alan for the help. No question of any 'stooping'. I've just been a viewer and supporter for years now, and very, very happy to be out of it all. OK, my mistake. Thanks for the memories anyway............... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchesterpaul Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 For next season we have changed Hammarby to Rospiggarna and I would think that Rospiggarna will have a higher attendance then Hammarby this year, Yeah Rospiggarna average in the lower division this season 2,259 and Hammarby in the higher tier only 1,932. Hopefully one would expect the promoted team to increase their attendances as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted September 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 Well there you go, Piraterna 2013 champions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastword Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 That's it for me tonight, another life calls! Congrats to the Pirates. Thanks for all the links when needed, looking forward to Poland on Sunday. Goodnight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchesterpaul Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 (edited) CONGRATS PIRATERNA 2013 CHAMPIONS (forget the triple 0-5 scenario) Thanks to Premier Sports and Dave Goddard for a season of great racing and great commentary. Edited September 18, 2013 by manchesterpaul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandonbee48 Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 Stating the blindingly obvious but Bob Dylan's "It's All Over Now Baby Blue" is apropos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted September 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 Stating the blindingly obvious but Bob Dylan's "It's All Over Now Baby Blue" is apropos In other word the f4t lady have sung. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikec Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 Congrats to Piraterna, thoroughly professional job done tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandonbee48 Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 Special thanks to our friend Ghostwalker for all he does with his informed insights into the Swedish scene. What would we do without you? One more race and then we can look forward to Tuesdays in 2014. Regards to all. Alan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchesterpaul Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 Special thanks to our friend Ghostwalker for all he does with his informed insights into the Swedish scene. What would we do without you? One more race and then we can look forward to Tuesdays in 2014. Regards to all. Alan. Thanks to yourself for always being a source of amicable conversation and debate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchesterpaul Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 Attendance tonight was 5,878 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted September 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 Attendance tonight was 5,878 That's very good but not as good as Smederna's home leg of the semi final where 6236 attended the meeting. That is the highest attendance this year. Hopefully they will return next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchesterpaul Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 (edited) That's very good but not as good as Smederna's home leg of the semi final where 6236 attended the meeting. That is the highest attendance this year. Hopefully they will return next year. As you mentioned yourself Piraterna is a 'small' stadium so luckily for Smerderna it doesn't have a capacity of 6237 or your club would only have had the second highest crowd Edited September 18, 2013 by manchesterpaul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 (edited) Gee rmc you make it sound like you still having to deal with high Therapy bills (JOKE) lol. If you found something so wrong would rather you seek to change it from the inside than flee. Intrigued as to what the 'all' is? are you referring to the speedway at the time or the media? Paul, it is possible to be happy to be out of something without needing therapy, you know? I'm glad to be out of both, mainly because of the type of people I encountered. On the media side (not just sport) I grew very tired of having to deal with what were often cheap hustlers running video companies, although there were one or two guys who were a pleasure to deal with. As for speedway, well sometimes making your hobby your living ruins a good hobby. I still love my speedway but it again its the people who run it and a lot of those who follow it who take a lot of the pleasure away. These days I'm happy to just watch, enjoy and leave others to take all the rest. When you see the ridiculous, spiteful hammering that Pearson and his colleagues take I'm very glad to be out of it all. Back to the speedway, I've really loved this Swedish season, it brings back some great memories of working over in a beautiful and very civilised country, although one of our cameramen did try his best to change all that ;-) Thanks to Premier Sports for taking the risk of buying the rights to an overseas version of a minority sport and for Dave Goddard for making the difficulties of working off a monitor in Dublin while filling in long gaps work so well. Thanks also to lastword for his kind words. I've watched the match on its repeat showing so I've been able finally to see the end of a damn good story. Edited September 19, 2013 by rmc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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