Humphrey Appleby Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 Unofficially, they also said that the ban may be extended to the players participating in the World Team Cup." Think riders would just choose to opt out of the World Team Cup. At least the FIM/BSI hegemony is finally starting to be questioned though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 I bet the riders are really upset at the idea of not being allowed to ride in the SWC! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 I bet the riders are really upset at the idea of not being allowed to ride in the SWC! Bet they are, both of them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=sv&sl=pl&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sportowefakty.pl%2Fzuzel%2F388022%2Fkrzysztof-cegielski-zachowanie-bsi-trzeba-tepic-jak-tylko-mozna "Krzysztof Cegielski reacted with outrage to reports, allegedly FIM SGP participants could prohibit performances in SEC competition. - Preservation of BSI must eradicated as soon as possible - he says." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 In a war between BSI/SGP/FIM and One Sport/SEC/UEM. Which side is one supposed to take? It sounds like the dilemma of the bare-footed man. Should he step in the pile of steaming horse-muck? Or should he tread straight into the freshly laid cow-pat? Whatever the choice. The stink is much-the-same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 The Polish league should make a rule which says no GP riders allowed in the Polish Extraliga. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 The Polish league should make a rule which says no GP riders allowed in the Polish Extraliga. they kind of did. Didn't work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 The Polish league should make a rule which says no GP riders allowed in the Polish Extraliga. they kind of did. Didn't work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 they kind of did. Didn't work. If they go through with the threat this time I think it would stick. Polish League speedway is the biggest pay packet in the sport and no GP rider in their right mind wouldn't & probably couldn't afford to not ride Poland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krompa Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 No idea why BSI has a problem with SEC. Can anyone explain it to me? But when you read comments on Sportowe Fakty, 99% of Polish fans support One Sport in this 'war'. I'm sure if BSI is going to ban GP riders participation in SEC, reaction will be quick. No Ekstraliga riders in GP. Is it really worth it? I believe all BSI is fighting for are some sponsorship deals. Eurosport coverage can't be the case here as BSI was always selling rights to local TV's rather than to open channels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 No idea why BSI has a problem with SEC. Can anyone explain it to me? But when you read comments on Sportowe Fakty, 99% of Polish fans support One Sport in this 'war'. I'm sure if BSI is going to ban GP riders participation in SEC, reaction will be quick. No Ekstraliga riders in GP. Is it really worth it? I believe all BSI is fighting for are some sponsorship deals. Eurosport coverage can't be the case here as BSI was always selling rights to local TV's rather than to open channels. I think it should be noted that Sportowefakty are media partners to the SEC/ONESPORT and therefore we are not getting balanced articles from that source(ie Tai Woffinden withdrawing from Rzeszow on Sunday) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 THIS has nothing to do with BSI. They cannot ban riders from anything let alone the SEC. It is essentially an internal conflict between the FIM and FIM Europe. As others have mentioned, cannot see how the FIM can prevent riders from competing in the SEC if they so wish - restraint of trade and all that - but there is certainly concern in Geneva that one faction is over-stepping its perceived authority and must be brought into line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 THIS has nothing to do with BSI. They cannot ban riders from anything let alone the SEC. It is essentially an internal conflict between the FIM and FIM Europe. As others have mentioned, cannot see how the FIM can prevent riders from competing in the SEC if they so wish - restraint of trade and all that - but there is certainly concern in Geneva that one faction is over-stepping its perceived authority and must be brought into line. Sure it does, Even if FIM is those who take the decision they are not "immune" to "external influence" no matter if the external influence is BSI, OS or those who "bought" the decisions about the implementation of the current silencers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 I think it should be noted that Sportowefakty are media partners to the SEC/ONESPORT and therefore we are not getting balanced articles from that source(ie Tai Woffinden withdrawing from Rzeszow on Sunday) This! it seems we're getting a constant diatribe of propaganda from Sportowefakty. Frankly, the organisers of the SEC have shown themselves in their true light with their handling of the Woffinden affair. It's common knowledge that much of Polish/Russian speedway is controlled by organisations with links to shall we say 'dodgy' organisations. I would suggest this is one of the reasons it became easy for them to organise a round in Russia too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 As others have mentioned, cannot see how the FIM can prevent riders from competing in the SEC if they so wish - restraint of trade and all that - but there is certainly concern in Geneva that one faction is over-stepping its perceived authority and must be brought into line. When all this SEC business started to gather momentum, Frank(-z?) Ziegler was the head of the UEM CCP and also sat in the FIM CCP. Not that anyone is naming names, but certainly information HAS HAD to change hands all the time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchesterpaul Posted October 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 (edited) I think it should be noted that Sportowefakty are media partners to the SEC/ONESPORT and therefore we are not getting balanced articles from that source(ie Tai Woffinden withdrawing from Rzeszow on Sunday) Similarly output from FIM/FIM EUROPE/BSI etc and their cohorts are equally unbalanced. The solution is simple and do what i do with any story in the media to do with anything and that is seek out partizan media sources and read both sides of an argument or belief etc. even if the view you disagree with is distasteful to you, then use your own noggin to try and discern what is what. And nooooo don't ask me what is what lol. Edited October 2, 2013 by manchesterpaul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 Similarly output from FIM/FIM EUROPE/BSI etc and their cohorts are equally unbalanced. The solution is simple and do what i do with any story in the media to do with anything and that is seek out partizan media sources and read both sides of an argument or belief etc. even if the view you disagree with is distasteful to you, then use your own noggin to try and discern what is what. And nooooo don't ask me what is what lol. The other is FIM/BSI and the other "FIM EUROPE" aka former UEM/SEC-Onesport. Thats the difference, two sides, two stories, one big umbrella at the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchesterpaul Posted October 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 The other is FIM/BSI and the other "FIM EUROPE" aka former UEM/SEC-Onesport. Thats the difference, two sides, two stories, one big umbrella at the top. Cheers a timely reminder to jog and unfog one's memory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 It would seem the SEC was a fair success tv wise.On average 1,000,000 people saw each final.20% of the viewers from Poland.Guess One Sport would be happy hitting that figure.Pure guess,but i would imagine Eurosport fairly happy as well. From Speedweek 1,2 Millionen sahen Speedway-EM-Finale Die Speedway-EM wurde in diesem Jahr erstmals von der polnischen Agentur One Sport Media vermarktet und alle vier Rennen von TV-Sender Eurosport in über 70 Ländern live übertragen. Durchschnittlich sahen beinahe eine Million Menschen die Rennen (inklusive Wiederholungen), ein Fünftel davon kam aus Polen. Das Finale in Rzeszow am vergangenen Sonntag schauten 1,2 Millionen Fans! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchesterpaul Posted October 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 It would seem the SEC was a fair success tv wise.On average 1,000,000 people saw each final.20% of the viewers from Poland.Guess One Sport would be happy hitting that figure.Pure guess,but i would imagine Eurosport fairly happy as well. From Speedweek 1,2 Millionen sahen Speedway-EM-Finale Further information from the official site "SEC watched by 29 million views! Eurosport, which has been the exclusive broadcaster of the SEC, transmitted the series to over 70 countries in Europe and Asia Pacific. Average ratings of the four final rounds, held in Gdansk, Togliatti, Gorican, and Rzeszow, amounted to 210.000 viewers in Poland, and nearly a million in the rest of Europe. International transmission range covered 16.7 million, and 29 million including repeats. The most interesting was the last round of the battle for the European title, which took place in Rzeszow on 29th September. In Poland the transmission was watched by 273.000 viewers, and 1.2 million viewers globally. The potential audience for the competition that was held in the heart of the Podkarpacia region was 7.5 million viewers." Bearing in mind the Eurosport figures for the SGP were, if i remember rightly, around the 5-6 million mark* then i would have expected the SEC to have gained a larger number of viewers than they did. However it's still great for the sport to have made an impact and we got to see live in HD all the meetings so no complaints from me. I can't get the exact numbers off hand as sadly and very disappointingly the 'international' section of the forum now only goes back a paltry 3 pages!!! That's a great shame indeed as it is without a doubt the most informative section, it is/WAS full of a swathe of information that one could repeatedly refer to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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