PolskiZuzel Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 That's if it gets to the courts. "At the moment, our lawyers analyze the situation , to take direct legal action to block the bizarre decision and obtain appropriate redress for us and potentially disadvantaged players, in the absence of reaction and its changes from the FIM." http://www.speedwayeuro.com/news/n/206/statement-of-one-sport-llc-according-to-fim-decisions.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Journalists used to go out and find evidence, but we're hardly asking for Watergate here. What's needed is an appraisal of the situation - what's behind this, why are the Poles/OneSport suddenly wanting to run the sport now and not previously, what's the issue between the FIM and FIM Europe and so on... I doubt any of it is salacious gossip, or FIFA-style corruption. I don't think I've ever suggested that OneSport are any better, but let's not spin that Bydgoszcz is being done for the fans' sake... I NEVER said it was only that when a late substitute was required Bydgoszcz would prove to be a popular choice. And so it has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Unlike those mega big, massively expensive and huge impressive stadiums that the SEC is taking the sport ? To be fair in the first season they took the SEC to Togliatti.One of the best stadiums in the sport.Did BSI take the GPs to one or two major stadiums in their first year?And they also got a deal for widespread coverage of the sport.For a first year i think what they puuled off was very impressive.As it is if one or two of the top Polish tracks join and drop out of the GPs and possibly Parken drops and BSI only have Vojens then there won't be much difference between the two.If they are allowed to carry on,that is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Did BSI take the GPs to one or two major stadiums in their first year I think BSI started around 1999, and the first time Cardiff was staged was in 2001. However, they did also get Stockholm and Berlin the same year, and I think Gothenburg (and Sydney) the following year. So they made a decent start, even if some of the major stadiums didn't last long on the circuit. Most of the other venues were the same old sort of places that had always staged GP/WC rounds though, much as SEC is now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 "At the moment, our lawyers analyze the situation , to take direct legal action to block the bizarre decision and obtain appropriate redress for us and potentially disadvantaged players, in the absence of reaction and its changes from the FIM." http://www.speedwayeuro.com/news/n/206/statement-of-one-sport-llc-according-to-fim-decisions.html That doesn't mean its going to court, does it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 I think BSI started around 1999, and the first time Cardiff was staged was in 2001. However, they did also get Stockholm and Berlin the same year, and I think Gothenburg (and Sydney) the following year. So they made a decent start, even if some of the major stadiums didn't last long on the circuit. Most of the other venues were the same old sort of places that had always staged GP/WC rounds though, much as SEC is now. So,pretty much the same.One Sport also use Torun which is also an excellent speedway stadium.And all this at the start,so you can't really moan too much about the quality of stadium they use.To me even though Holsted isn't as good a stadium,i think it is a better track than Vojens and Güstrow is no great shakes as a stadium(although they are continually upgrading it),but it is generally an excellent race track,which can't be said for a lot of those that BSI use...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Science Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 To be fair in the first season they took the SEC to Togliatti.One of the best stadiums in the sport.Did BSI take the GPs to one or two major stadiums in their first year?And they also got a deal for widespread coverage of the sport.For a first year i think what they puuled off was very impressive.As it is if one or two of the top Polish tracks join and drop out of the GPs and possibly Parken drops and BSI only have Vojens then there won't be much difference between the two.If they are allowed to carry on,that isHave to admit One Sport taking the SEC to a sold out Togliatti was a major coup.Russia seemed a natural expansion for the SGP but for whatever the list of reasons it hasn't happened. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 (edited) Coincidentally,just watching a repeat of the Togliatti meeting and it does make a good advert for the sport.Great stadium,packed out and the crowd make for a super atmosphere,especially when a Russian is winning. Two wonderful things about the meeting,although not really much to do with One Sport or BSI,but the amount of young people in the crowd and the sight of the 80cc track in the middle are good for the future of the sport in Togliatti + Russia Edited February 19, 2014 by iris123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPNY Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 SEC will be a flash in the pan, gone in 3 or 4 years. You heard it here first! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Coincidentally,just watching a repeat of the Togliatti meeting and it does make a good advert for the sport.Great stadium,packed out and the crowd make for a super atmosphere,especially when a Russian is winning. Two wonderful things about the meeting,although not really much to do with One Sport or BSI,but the amount of young people in the crowd and the sight of the 80cc track in the middle are good for the future of the sport in Togliatti + Russia Shame about the awful racing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Shame about the awful racing. I agree.But that is the same with the SGP or EL from my experience.That is the trouble with speedway as a whole or even watching the Olympic Snowboard Cross.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 I agree.But that is the same with the SGP or EL from my experience.That is the trouble with speedway as a whole or even watching the Olympic Snowboard Cross.......... Yep that's true. I do agree though, a full stadium with a noisy crowd, the racing doesn't even need to be special, it will still catch the casual viewers attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Yep that's true. I do agree though, a full stadium with a noisy crowd, the racing doesn't even need to be special, it will still catch the casual viewers attention. This is why most oldies claim it was better in the good old days IMO. Being one of 10000 at a meeting is better than 1 of 400. Best example I can give is Newport vs Glasgow KOC 2011 - I doubt the meeting was any better than any other meeting that season but every time Newport gated on a 5-1, got within 2 foot of a Glasgow rider, made a pass, went over the line the place went mad as the 1500 people there were enjoying themselves far more than the usual 3-400. It's also why we walk out of Cardiff every year buzzing while the people who sat at home watching on the tele say it was boring. The Audiable boo every time the stadium catches a glimpses of Nicki on the big screen or stepping out on to the track to the roof raising wall of noise you hear when they show Woffy or Bomber (despite the stick Bomber gets on here) on the big screen or they stick there head out of the pits. You're already excited so the racing doesn't have to be that good, barely acceptable will be more than good enough. Watch the Chris Harris 2007 race on yourtube that the people there have uploaded and hear the gasp as Bomber heads down the back straight on lap 1 passing Crump and Adams, the groan as Crump re-passes him on bend 4th bend and then the huge cheer as he passes Crump on the next bend followed by all sorts of ooohs and arrhhs as he he chansed Greg back wheel for 3 laps. That race would have just been an OK race if you watched it at Brandon (as we've been lucky enough to do for the last 10 years!) but with 40000 other people even the most anti-Bomber of fans would have found themselves sucked in and enjoying themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 (edited) Spot on SCB. That is precisely why I love the play-offs. You get those exact feelings and it simply can't be beaten.. Edited February 20, 2014 by BWitcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 just a shame you have to wait til october every yr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Have to admit One Sport taking the SEC to a sold out Togliatti was a major coup.Russia seemed a natural expansion for the SGP but for whatever the list of reasons it hasn't happened. NUMBER of reasons not least of which is a complete lack of interest by Russian TV stations. Speedway even at the highest level doesn't seem to register on their radar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 NUMBER of reasons not least of which is a complete lack of interest by Russian TV stations. Speedway even at the highest level doesn't seem to register on their radar. And yet the SEC see some value in having a Russian round. Yes, inscription fees might be higher for FIM competitions, but you can only really think that Togliatti didn't want to pay BSI's asking price. Another one of the list of proposed GPs that never happened. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 And yet the SEC see some value in having a Russian round. Yes, inscription fees might be higher for FIM competitions, but you can only really think that Togliatti didn't want to pay BSI's asking price. Another one of the list of proposed GPs that never happened. Maybe a few more Russians in the SGP and Togliatti would be on the schedule. Id guess they would pay the asking price then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 (edited) And yet the SEC see some value in having a Russian round. Maybe they did it to win you over? And why not, Emil as a wild card this season it's full house again. Edited February 20, 2014 by f-s-p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Maybe they did it to win you over? There are a lot of logistical difficulties in organising things in Russia, although it's usually easier if you have official support. Aside from that though, Togliatti is as good a venue as some on the SGP circuit. The SGP and SEC, BSI and Onesport are Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dee as far as I'm concerned though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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