pandorum Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 I turned down a job in 2008, do you think I can go back and ask them for it back now as my circumstances have changed? Go for it! It would be a laugh if nothing else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunty Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 Can anyone please inform me if this has all been resolved? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 BELIEVE there might be an FIM statement next week... unless it is leaked before then of course! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 BELIEVE there might be an FIM statement next week... unless it is leaked before then of course! i assume someone is not riding in the GPs next year then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 i assume someone is not riding in the GPs next year then? WHY assume that? There is a FIM Conference this weekend, more talks, and hopefully a resolution. All the GP riders have booked their flights, etc, to NZ. My own view (and it is nothing more than that) is that even if the FIM still rule that GP riders cannot also compete in the SEC, the riders will start the SGP series and contest it in some form or another before the SEC actually commences. Hard to see how the FIM can impose this restriction having allowed riders to do both in 2013. They are trying to shut the stable door after the horse has bolted but, as stated before, this is as much about an internal power struggle in Geneva as anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 Talk about shooting yourself in the foot. Absolutely ridiculous decision. The SGP is the best speedway events EVER. why risk destroying the biggest draw the sport has known?????? Plain Crazy........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 I can see a rival world championship happening if this isn't sorted as with what happened with Darts - money talks and riders will go where the money is . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 The SGP is the best speedway events EVER. why risk destroying the biggest draw the sport has known?????? Hasn't expanded much beyond Europe (and not to Russia), charges host venues too much, poor prize money, relatively closed shop... Obviously some think they can do better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 Hasn't expanded much beyond Europe (and not to Russia), charges host venues too much, poor prize money, relatively closed shop... Obviously some think they can do better. Only thing One Sport has done so far is copypaste the SGP on the cheap. So who are you talking about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 Only thing One Sport has done so far is copypaste the SGP on the cheap. So who are you talking about? Not suggesting OneSport can do better than the SGP, but they obviously think they can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 Hasn't expanded much beyond Europe (and not to Russia), charges host venues too much, poor prize money, relatively closed shop... Obviously some think they can do better. I agree with all those things. I was referring to the racing spectacle when I said it was the best ever and is a wonderful advert for the sport. The FIM is like the Mafia, and what they say governs. The argument is all about money. But too make riders choose between the two is creating a disaster area that the sport can ill afford. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 I can see a rival world championship happening if this isn't sorted as with what happened with Darts - money talks and riders will go where the money is . RIDERS still need FIM international licences to race in more than one country so not sure that the analogy with darts is a valid one. Hypothetically ... if OneSport were to operate a championship outside of the FIM where would the riders find sufficient employment if they were banned from Denmark, GB and Sweden for example? I agree with all those things. I was referring to the racing spectacle when I said it was the best ever and is a wonderful advert for the sport. The FIM is like the Mafia, and what they say governs. The argument is all about money. But too make riders choose between the two is creating a disaster area that the sport can ill afford. NO great fan of the FIM per say but not sure calling them the Mafia is valid. They are the global governing body of motorcycle racing and the custodians of the various championships. Would, however, agree with your last comment... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 RIDERS still need FIM international licences to race in more than one country so not sure that the analogy with darts is a valid one. Hypothetically ... if OneSport were to operate a championship outside of the FIM where would the riders find sufficient employment if they were banned from Denmark, GB and Sweden for example? NO great fan of the FIM per say but not sure calling them the Mafia is valid. They are the global governing body of motorcycle racing and the custodians of the various championships. Would, however, agree with your last comment... If all the top riders from those countries did ride in an outside championship and faced a ban what would stop the federations of those countries ignoring the FIM and running there own meetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 (edited) Hypothetically ... if OneSport were to operate a championship outside of the FIM where would the riders find sufficient employment if they were banned from Denmark, GB and Sweden for example? The point is that I don't think they could be banned for competing in a championship outside of the FIM - or unlikely stand up in court if challenged. The SGP contracts might themselves have 'exclusivity' clauses that may preclude where else riders may compete, but again if riders are otherwise competing all over the place, it's pretty hard to argue they can't ride in the SEC. NO great fan of the FIM per say but not sure calling them the Mafia is valid. They are the global governing body of motorcycle racing and the custodians of the various championships. The Mafia charges 'affiliated businesses' fees in return for not very much, and also has legitimate fronts to give them respectability. How does the FIM really differ in practice? It's funny though, how the nonsensical UEM they created a few years ago has come back to bite them. Edited February 13, 2014 by Humphrey Appleby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 I made a brief summary regarding a very similar case in Sweden in this post: http://www.speedway-forum.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=75712&p=2407263 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 With FOGO pulling out as one of the main sponsors and there's got to be a chance there will be others, and NICE threatening to pull out from sponsoring the Polish riders, the FIM could very well end up with a GP series that is virtually worthless if the top riders decide to go with the European Champs rather than the GPs. Decisions like this one from the FIM will only lead to conflict and court cases, which means the only ones likely to profit out of this will be the lawyers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 With FOGO pulling out as one of the main sponsors and there's got to be a chance there will be others, and NICE threatening to pull out from sponsoring the Polish riders, the FIM could very well end up with a GP series that is virtually worthless if the top riders decide to go with the European Champs rather than the GPs. Decisions like this one from the FIM will only lead to conflict and court cases, which means the only ones likely to profit out of this will be the lawyers. Alternatively you let OneSport trample over the sport taking up more valuable weekend dates and taking more rider from weekend British tracks. I say kill it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 Seen a number of posts on Facebook saying Emil Sayfutdinov has now officially withdrawn from the GP series. Can anyone confirm this 100%? If so this shambles needs sorting quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 The only thing I have found regarding Emil is this: http://www.espeedway.pl/info,info,1.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandorum Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 (edited) Seen a number of posts on Facebook saying Emil Sayfutdinov has now officially withdrawn from the GP series. What an absolute mess these lunatics are making of the sport forcing riders to choose. Alternatively you let OneSport trample over the sport taking up more valuable weekend dates and taking more rider from weekend British tracks. I say kill it now. Were there any riders from weekend British tracks there last year or due to be there this year? Only I think 3 of SEC last year rode in the UK and none from Brit weekend tracks. I don't really think we are important enough to formulate any kind of policy regarding this speedway spat sadly. How are OneSport trampling over the sport? Providing valuable TV coverage and some interesting TV speedway. Can't the GP and SEC just live together it's not like speedway has any great worldwide popularity. Surely the SEC creates interest that might rub of on other sections of the sport. Edited February 14, 2014 by pandorum 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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